Pryam Carter
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Who’s that Jon?
Do you have a website or a number? -
OK Peter, it was the laminator that I was interested in.
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Peter, do you still have the laminator?
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I.m looking into this at the moment too, theres the Bobis multi applicator to consider too.
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Bet it cost you a few quid!
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Thanks guys.
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The trouble i have is this.
Matt laminate with a new blade is set at max to 120 on the Roland.
Gloss laminate needs to go 130, with this it struggles to make a clean cutt.
I up it to 150 – 160 and it goes straight through it all and rips it up. 🙁 -
Heat lamination is very noticeable when laminating exhibition display products. When laminating these cold the finish is nowhere near as good.
It’s not as good with vinyl either to be honest, the heat makes all the difference.
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Thats interesting Shane…….i’ve got a Roland 540 Pro3, i’ve been thinking of changing over to a cheaper ink but i never go through with it. There can be a considerable saving in the pocket but there are so many people say its a risk for the print heads on the machine.
Are you still finding everything OK?
When did you move over to these inks?
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Heated rollers on a better machine for a far better finish.
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You get what you pay for with a laminator.
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Thats class 😀 😀
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The other thing i meant to say – my stay at Woodlands Grange which is just down the road was spot on.
£35 per night with brekkie. -
Excellent work.
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It wasn’t James, he was busy swigging from a Magners that he had stashed in his bag. Mind you he does need plenty of ice with his drinks! 😀
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quote :So have roland and grafityp parted company?
I believe this to be the case, Grafityp are doing itfrom there HQ in Tamworth, i reckon there will be a course every two weeks.
Roland are still doing it with James but i think that they are using different materials, possibly 3M and Metamark?
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The price hasn’t put him off, i can’t believe how much it is per linear metre!!!!!!!!
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Thanks Rob…..i’ll make a few enquiries.
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Just the grind the point of the bottom and try that, should be fine.
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Who needs Corel X4?!?!?!?
Thankyou very much. 😀
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Get one……before long you’ll be doing more print work than vinyl. It opens so many new avenues for you.
Have a look at purchasing a laminator with the printer.
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When all the vinyl is down do you cover in anything for protection?
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The "A" stands for "bottom" if you ask me.
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I like it , could you not have wrapped the corner?
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Cheers Rob.
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Dewalt lasted us a year, my bosch is about six years old and going strong.
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You need to get the right work surface for them, we use a large kitchen worktop at 488cm in length.
This way we can keep the surface clean as the ink does occasionally press onto the work surface leaving the banner with slightly less colour on the hem. This happens we print and hem on the same day when we are rushing to get the jobs out quick.
Its a brilliant bit of kit, i wouldn’t want to be without it now. Saves a lot of time.
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I agree with the welding machine………….
…..i bought one at Sign UK a couple of years ago and its been a great buy.
Hemming takes a fraction of the time that it used to with the tape, i can also weld banner sections together. We can produce bigger banners this way by welding sections together. Do it in no time at all with a solid weld.
Mines a uniplan. -
My 2 penneth based on your idea.
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Well put John Hughes!!!!
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Hydrosol don’t have any profiles, they recommend that you print using a matte profile. Try a few different ones and see how you go.
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I get mine from Amari Digital.
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Hydrosol is a pretty good bet for pop ups, they do 2 types. The thinner gram for rollers and the thicker for pop ups.
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I don’t blame you on this recess.
I did a part wrap on one of these over a year ago, the guy brought it back two months ago because one of the sides has popped, the other side and the rear are both perfect.
I was dubious whether it would stay and very nearly cut it.
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Thats looks really nice.
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Kevin….thanks for giving me your opinion on the Evosol inks. They can’t be that great in your opinion if you switched back to ITL max inks. Where do you get the ITL max inks from?
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I enquired today at Granthams about the bulk there bulk ink system for the Roland.
They still use a cartridge method but they chip the cartridge, you then refill the cartridge with their ITL Evo-sol inks.
The price works out at £100 for 1 litre which is considerably less than what i pay now, they say that the switch over runs seamlessly with the eco sol max. There is no need to drain the existing inks out, clean and then re-fill with the new inks.
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quote :Still only nine meters of banner pvc wasted + the ink + my time.
Get a banner welder from leister, just weld the end bit on the end. No waste 😀
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I hate it when printing a long banner and i’ve been keeping the banner slack from the roll, (so that the printer does not have to pull at the banner resulting in the printer heads rubbing over the banner and ruining the print). Then a customer walks in and i forget about the banner, the next thing i remember about the banner but it is too late!! I rush back to the machine but find the drag from the print head all over the print, i start ranting and raving and kicking the sh*t out of the nearest employee 😀 i mean cardboard box!!
I used to have to start again but now i print the end section and weld the two together, the welders are pricey but they reduce stress (until you burn yourself on one), then you want to murder the cardboard box, i mean employee!! -
That looks excellent, and looking at the finished product i think you are there or there abouts on price.
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I do have a soljet printer, i could do them myself but i was after after a price for a quantity of 50 pieces from a specialist.
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Looks like theres a bit of stress out there!!
I’ve calmed down on the issue after a weekend of camping with the family.
However i am still going to go and give him my bill, i’ll let him know he has thirty days to pay, after that he will receive reminders and letters and then if it hasn’t been paid the solicitors will be involved.
I like the photo idea Harry.I don’t mind people going out to get several quotes for a fascia sign, i understand that setting a business up can be an expensive game. What gets my goat is the signmaker up the road who has said that he’ll do the sign using my design. He hasn’t even bothered to come up with a better idea for the customer, i think that is cheap. He’s operating like a back street merchant and has gone down some what in my estimations.
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Peter, thats exactly what my intentions are, i’m also going to find the other signmaker and question why he would do it.
I’m off camping now but i’ll post a picture early next week. -
I bought some printable material from Grafityp and tried it with their heat application tape, it does work really well.
Merlin have finished stocking their material due to poor colour apparently. -
Cheryl, do you advertise your vehicle wrapping services as you seem to get quite a few jobs?
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I agree with you Rob, i was chatting to a guy on the vehicle wrap (think it carwraps uk) stand at Sign UK last year. He told me of an experienced wrapper who didn’t used to use one before a little test they did with him. They were discussing wrapping at a meeting and got on to the subject of post heating to a certain temperature and methods used. The wrapper said that he knew what temperature the vinyl needed to be at by touch, they questioned this statement and put the wrap guy to the test. He had to post heat some vinyl on a vehicle without a temp gun, he came up well short of the required temperature and was shocked. Apparently he goes to bed with his temp gun now!! 😀
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Hexis sell them, probably a bit dearer than most but if you can’t find one elsewhere get it from them.
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It’s nice to see a van wrap that is not over the top, quality work. 😉
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Andy….this is something like what i had in mind, however i’m not sure that i can do this with some of the smaller text.
I was going to get some small tubing (hollow like a bic pen) and use a longer screw to fix these letters to the cladding. -
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How did you find the Mactac compared to the Avery product?
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On close inspection after post heating you can, that said vehicles are not like a business card. We view them from a distance in general, the final finish of the bubble free doesn’t worry me at all.
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We used the Mactac Bubble Free for the print.
I wrapped the rear of my van with it about 8-12 months ago and it has never moved a muscle. The recesses on these vans are similar to my vivaro so i decided to use the same product since it has never moved on mine.
I like the Mactac product, its very nice to work with. -
Thinking about this, won’t the grafityp material do the trick?
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The stuff from merlin has a different feel to it, it’s got more of a vinyl feel to it rather than the soft silky feel of the ink jet dark from xpres.
http://www.merlintransfers.com/merlin/
This is their website, i’ve just had a look for the product and i cannot see it, last time i had it from them i had 10 metres at 500mm wide. Give them a ring?!?
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I’ve done the same thing as you, the thermal tape from grafityp does work but not on that particular product from xpres. I’ve used the tape on the print & cut material from merlin and it works well, you can use the tape several times before it loses it tack.
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THanks for taking the time to post the .pdf file Peter, top man.
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I’ve just got back in from outside, i’ve been figuring it out on the lamp post!!
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You don’t fancy explaining it on here do you?
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If the spray job was any good i don’t think that should happen. Stand firm and blame the cr*p paint job.
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Peter………….
I’m looking for 3 others, this way we can get on the course for the 4 people price which is £960.00. Split this four ways ( i think this is correct) and it sounds like a good deal.
We get to use grafiwrap and metamark films, get classroom tuition about software and design and hands on with the instructor. Wrap a smart car and the panels on a sprinter van which are fixed to the wall of the app room.Heres the link from the website.
http://www.grafityp.co.uk/GrafiPrint/gr … m#training
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Jag sign supplies sell the bit you need.
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I went yesterday (Tuesday) and found it quiet and pretty poor to be honest. Last year seemed far busier with more exhibitors on show, nothing new this year.
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Not sure how to upload it, can i do it in this forum or will i have to upload elsewhere?
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Thats just it, it looks good.
The printers that i use for the business cards are top drawer, i have no issues with them at all.
Could the problem be a PC to MAC issue? They are MAC based and check the files first, would this alter the file in anyway at all.Let me stress it is only the text, on really close inspection (i mean up close) it looks slightly pixelated when produced in X3, when done in photoshop there is no problem. This tells me that Corel doesn’t produce the same goods as Adobe.
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I export the files as 300dpi jpegs generally, colour is CMYK.
Since getting X3 i’ve saved as .pdf files with max quality settings and tried it this way. I always get a lesser quality job than i do when i start from scratch in photoshop.
I’ve also tried converting the text to curves before exporting, this didn’t work. (I thought that corel must do something to a font that inhibits from exporting correctly).
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Rules rules rules 😥
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Amari do a few banner materials, i pay about £90 for 30 metres 1360mm. I get a really good print from it using Roland Eco sol MAX inks.
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I hadn’t thought of this one, definately worth considering Cheers Martin.
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Going back to Johns point, i think that it is important to get the business to the stage that it can run itself without the creator / owner of the business being there 24/7. What happens when you want a family holiday? What happens when you are sick? The business should not stop.
I am not going to build a sign business over the next twenty years or so and then not be able to sell it because i won’t be running it no more. At least thats the plan!!
I think Johns point is bang on. -
Sub it i shall!!
I already spoke to the lads at superwide graphics, i’ve used them in the past and they have always done a good job.
I do have a high frequency welder and have welded stuff together quite a lot but never anything that long.
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When i had a versacamm sp300 the best print that i ever got was a product from victory design, it was a multifix 6500 i think. I’ve never achieved a print as good on any other material, grafityp 5-7 year was pretty good.
The only reason that i stopped using it was down to price, when i first got into digital print i believed that i had to get the best quality print out there on the market so that the locals could see what a great job i do. I paid twice the price of the budget vinyls all to get a quality finish.
The problem was that the customers didn’t care, they just wanted a good job done for next to nothing.
Its still the same now, i could pay twice as much as i do but i know that the vast majority of my customers do not care. Shame. -
I would recommend a digital thermometer, not so much for pre heating the vinyl but i think its very important to post heat the vinyls to the necessary temperature. This erases the memory from the product.
Take your time and never rush these things, be methodical.
Good luck.
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This year i had to make an aboard for a customer who thought size was everything, the aboard measured 1500 x 2000mm.
2×2 Wooden frame, dibond panels, ridiculous monstrocity!!! -
With the exhibition panels the benchtop cutter would mainly be for the stop light laminated panels which are very thin.
I believe they are accurate to a 1/3rd of a mm over 3 meteres which sound impressive for what i need. -
I looked at Festool a while ago but the expense put me off at the time, what are the javelin benches like?
I’m after one for cutting the exhibition printed panels as they are supposed to be very accurate, is this the case Mike? -
I also like Robs ideas, they make you look twice. Whether you take in what or not the shop is all about is down to the individuals.
On another note, where can you get high res images like the top model and similar?
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I had problems with my Roland 540 when i bought it, i had to have them out to it, they replaced the motherboard and all is now well. Is it still under warranty? Get them out if so.
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Get yourself a laminator, you will not regret it.
Great for mounting foam board with colour vinyls, quick and easy, great finish. -
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thanks for the offer, love the website by the way.
Pryam
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Cheers Martin……….
They can supply us with the mechanism we need, that’s a great help.
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Go for it Phil………
Get some samples and have a go on your own van, practice going into a recess and then around a curve. You’ll soon pick up how the material reacts, i would recommend getting a surface temperature gun so that you can post heat to the recommended temperature.
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It is digitally printed graphics with a standard 3-5 year laminate, if i had known of a graffiti problem i would have used the appropriate laminate.
I have checked out the mactac website and they suggest methanol for use on the graffiti laminate film, i’m going to test some on the standard laminate and see how it goes.
Anyone else know of any products?
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We did a part wrap on one of the new sprinters two months ago, i saw it yesterday and it is fine.
mind you i thought that the recess around the main flat panel was deeper than most, definatelt deeper than my vivaro.
We used grafiwrap and it was the 1st time i have noticed this film to lose a little colour when stretching into said recess. -
Skegness, thats my way. I don’t recognise the arcade, was it in Ingoldmells (Fantasy Island)?
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I agree about laminating if the customer intends to use it repeatedly.
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Thanks leigh………
unfortunately i already have this one 😥
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We got some hydrosol from Amari, prints very good.
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Rob…. what i’m thinking of doing is lining the walls, then applying dry to the lining paper (laminated of course).
I’m doing the mural to cover her pen marks on the wall!!!!Still unsure about doing it thisway , i’m tempted to have a go at printing on the wallpaper media and getting a mate of mine who is extremely talented at decorating to hang it, who knows it might open up a whole new market for me with the posh kids around here!!
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Thanks for the advice, lining paper then vinyl it is then.
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I see your point Peter, i was just a bit worried that the vinyl might rip the plaster off the walls when removed.
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I believe there is as my rep often reminds me that when i threaten to use a different supplier!!
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If it’s signs you want to do more than printing, get yourself a digi wide format printer that is print & cut. Probably a versacamm or a cadet to start with, this will actas a printer and vinyl cuter for you.
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I like the idea of the cable Chris.
Had a bit more practice with it this morning and i’m very confident now. Great bit of kit, blo*dy expensive though.
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quote :Is a red acrylic sheet stuck to the back or translucent vinyl? Guessing its the acrylic just wanted to be sure.
jxuereb – I had the acrylic cut from 18mm acrylic (i think, could have been 15mm), not individual letters though. There is one piece of clear acrylic behind the word Deetres that was routed so that the text Deetres stuck out from it leaving 3mm of acrylic untouched so that we could fix this to the rear of the panel. This way no glue or tape can be seen from the outside of the box.
Hope this is making sense.
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When you say Europoint, is that Europoint Display who are in the supplier forum on here?
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quote :this is only a small portion of our trade but its a beginning… if done “realistically” there could be more money in it for us as qualified sign makers as opposed to the blackpool pleasure beach type signage we see on our high streets every day.
Rob…………we get asked to make blackpool pleasure type signage every day of the week. We get good money for it too!! Mind you, we are based at the seaside
😀 😀
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quote :We are printing labels (contour cut) posters and canvas
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quote :If you got it then phone on land line and I can return call if you wish. I don’t have an email and its not shown on boards. Went to your site but can’t find contact details. I am probably missing it
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I can’t access your or anyones details Peter.
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I’m glad to hear someones making money from dyesub.
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I took delivery of a soljet III a few months back, i think it’s a great machine. Previously to this i had a versacamm (small one) and felt that the time had come to upgrade, the eco max inks are pretty good but things DO need laminating for ink protection.
We run our machine for a couple of hours each day plus cutting, a very versatile bit of kit. Excellent print quality. The daily / weekly servicing of the machine is pretty much 0 hours, i think the full solvents need a bit more maintenance.
We have a seal 54 base laminator which is a great piece of kit also, worth considering.