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where can i get a heat detector for vehicle wrapping?
anyone know where to get a heat detector for vehicle wrapping pleeez
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You mean an Infra Red Temperature gun?
I’ve got one. I used it at first. But now I know how hot the vinyl is getting just by heating it and touching the car.
Down here electronic stores sell cheaper IR guns.
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Got mine off fleabay.
Steve
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I know you can get them from Spandex, probably more expensive than anywhere else.
Frank
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I believe like Jason says it is more important to get a feel for the vinyl and it will show you when it is at the right temperature but I suppose you need to get that experience. But to put a point what is the temperature when you put down the guage and pick up squeegee ? or for afterheating vinyl can take more heat past removing the memory so why a gauge?
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quote :so why a gauge?to give a less experienced person confidence.
guessing from one of your previous posts you may be very experienced so you go by feel thats fine but dont knock somebody for wanting to get it right.worth getting one then you wont need it after a while
chris
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James I might be wrong but I think shed want the gauge for post heating the vinyl. A lot of manufacturers prescribe post heating to 90 degrees Celsius to ‘reset the vinyls memory’. Like I said at first its useful to actually know what temperature your post heating to. But after a while you can just touch the vehicle of the car to know if you’ve gone over this point.
I don’t think its manageable to hold the temp gun and heat the vinyl to relax it then lay it down as you said.
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Hexis sell them, probably a bit dearer than most but if you can’t find one elsewhere get it from them.
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sorry im hopeless here… i have two and forgot where i bought my good one. :lol1:
i have one that’s like a hand gun and points an laser dot. i prefer using this as it feels much more natural to hold and use. it cost me about £95 about 4 years ago, maybe longer… i got my second one when i went on the Oracal wrap course in 2006… i believe theirs cost about £40 from the net… its a different beam as it further away you are the wider the dot area it covers. close up its about the size of a 10p rather than a small dot… its more like a small torch.
both do the job very well but the more expensive one is a better al-rounder i think. you can buy cheap on-line but some have a max temp reading so be careful. don’t buy one that wont read up to 200 degrees as some vinyl stipulate much higher than 100 degrees…like as has been said, you will get to a point you can tell when the heat is just right but in some cases, particularly when using a new type of vinyl, i like to make sure im doing it by the book.
i also dont trust the staff to do it properly without a gauge… last thing you need is few grands worth of sprinter wrap coming back to be re-done. 🙄 -
quote Robert Lambie:i also dont trust the staff to do it properly without a gauge… last thing you need is few grands worth of sprinter wrap coming back to be re-done. 🙄Rob, if you cant trust your staff to do it without a gauge, how can you trust them to use the gauge properly? and even apply the vinyl in the correct manner?
Wraps are not clinical, and do need hands on judgement/experience, as to what is acceptable, pointless telling your staff that a post heat of a recess is a sure way of making it stay put, if they haven’t applied the material correctly in the first place?
If you see my drift
Peter
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Hi Karen
You can get one from your local Model hobby shop, that sells radio control cars for around £20.Kev
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kevin can you obtain one for me please mines now deceased something to do with shelf and floor to far apart.
chris
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peter it is not that i don’t trust my staff in general, i just mean that i may feel comfortable knowing "i" am taking the vinyl to the right temp, but i certainly don’t feel comfortable thinking all is OK leaving someone less experienced "guessing" they are doing the job correct.
there is a BIG difference in a blind guess than simply pointing a gauge and it telling you the temp is or isn’t 100 degrees. in my view an accurate "one off" £95 gauge has to be a better gamble than guess work, especially when its not even me doing the guessing. -
Hi Chris
I’ll drop mine into you to try next time I pass your place.Kev
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I agree with you Rob, i was chatting to a guy on the vehicle wrap (think it carwraps uk) stand at Sign UK last year. He told me of an experienced wrapper who didn’t used to use one before a little test they did with him. They were discussing wrapping at a meeting and got on to the subject of post heating to a certain temperature and methods used. The wrapper said that he knew what temperature the vinyl needed to be at by touch, they questioned this statement and put the wrap guy to the test. He had to post heat some vinyl on a vehicle without a temp gun, he came up well short of the required temperature and was shocked. Apparently he goes to bed with his temp gun now!! 😀
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quote Peter Normington:Rob, if you cant trust your staff to do it without a gauge, how can you trust them to use the gauge properly? and even apply the vinyl in the correct manner?Well, the answer to that question is that you can’t.
We seem to have spent an inordinate amount of time this week correcting errors. Some of other people that we can charge for, but also far too many of our own, which we can’t
In fact this very morning I’ve got one employee driving down to Hoddesdon to fit a 600mm long line of text that he "forgot" to apply when he originally did the van. That’s going to take him most of the day plus the motoring costs, and all at my expense. 👿
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quote John Childs:quote Peter Normington:Rob, if you cant trust your staff to do it without a gauge, how can you trust them to use the gauge properly? and even apply the vinyl in the correct manner?Well, the answer to that question is that you can’t.
We seem to have spent an inordinate amount of time this week correcting errors. Some of other people that we can charge for, but also far too many of our own, which we can’t
In fact this very morning I’ve got one employee driving down to Hoddesdon to fit a 600mm long line of text that he “forgot” to apply when he originally did the van. That’s going to take him most of the day plus the motoring costs, and all at my expense. 👿
absolutely agree with you did my wrapping course last weel and the guy who’s company have done over 2500 vehicles to date insists on using them especially for post heat
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is that yours Karen ??
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quote Lynn:is that yours Karen ??
not my scooter but panel wrap yes now i have tried this next is my van and i can’t wait
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