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what should i do print or sub-out 35 x 2.5 metre banner?
I have a job to do shortly, its a 35 metre by 2.44 metre banner for a local housing development firm.
The question is, do i sub it out or do i have a go myself?If i sub it out i can buy it hemmed and eyed and then just fit it on site, the banner will be printed at full width so no welding needed (unless the banner moves in print). By subbing it out i will not make as much money though.
I have a soljet iii that can print at 1360mm so i would have to print 2 widths at 1220mm and then weld them together with my Lester machine straight down the middle. This way i can control quality of print and make more money but will the hem look bad and will it be strong enough?
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If you’re confident of doing the join then I’d say do it in house and maximise profits.
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unless you have it properly heavy duty stitched or welded, sub it out.
a good source banners this size is superwidegraphics.com and speak to "Guy". they offer very reasonable prices and the job is out your hair allowing you to get on with other orders. yeh you may make a bit more producing in house, but think of the print time, then the welding and hemming.
if you hem it in house, there is also the possibility of it falling to bits in high wind. then your back to the drawing board. -
print it with a 2.5mtr wide machine.. sub it, too risky.
Consider this:-
1: Joining the banner, as rob said.
2: The banner weight on the take-up can affect your length, so lets say you printed the first bit correctly, then the second bit actually with the 180degree setting set. They try and stitch you may find it will not line up side-by-side. The roll gets heavier and heavier and roll get lighter behind then machine therefore the feed rate changes.
3: Power cuts, need i say more.
4: You know that your PC, Rip and printer can print overnight without locking up. Likely will take that long.
5: Full set of carts.
6: Big enough table to cut it??
7: Transporting the banner to the location to be installed, delivered to the location.
8: Eyelets and stitch/tape plan
9: Wind , Slits, Mesh
10: fixing for the banner (how strong, remember solid banner will create a boat sail while needs serious fixing) -
11: Make sure the image is made correct
12: You are likely to use % blow-ups, must get it right lol
13: PDF actually has a 5mtr limit if your using that
14: DPI drop when enlarging, becareful -
Sod it Dave. I’ll sell me printer and sub it all out from now on. 😀
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sub it, never mind Daves list,
you wont get the join to line up, end offPeter
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quote Peter Normington:sub it, never mind Daves list,
you wont get the join to line up, end offthat thought did go through my mind…so how do the ‘bigger boys’ do it? 😀
nik
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i would defo sub it… just im sorta fast typer and that start thinking of all the problems that should come up.
Its tempting when you got that printer ready to go, then buy the materials and then screw up loosing your profit lol
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quote Nicola Rowlands:quote Peter Normington:sub it, never mind Daves list,
you wont get the join to line up, end offthat thought did go through my mind…so how do the ‘bigger boys’ do it? 😀
nik
they print in one go nik… 5m wide printers, low resolution, very fast print options, fraction of ink actually used, very cheap bulk ink systems etc high frequency welders for hemming, automated eyeletting machines etc etc. 😕
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quote Robert Lambie:they print in one go nik… 5m wide printers etc 😕
:doh: yeh but im in thinking mode and was wondering how they did the big ones, like for example: george square glasgow, building on the left of the witherspoons pub…i stood below and counted the seperate pieces..and thought….’how did they join that together perfectly vertically’ typical me, likes to know everything 😕
nik
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you didn’t want to get up and feel it?
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quote Dave Rowland:you didn’t want to get up and feel it?
dave if i had ladders…..i would have 🙄
nik
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What a big one with lots of joins? 😕
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quote Karl Williams:What a big one with lots of joins? 😕
😀 😀 😀 :lol1:
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We did a 5 metre banner.
The line up on the take up roller was off. When the banner got weld by the end of the banner the text was off by about 2-3m. I could notice it. Wouldn’t want to see what happens with a 10+ metre banner if you haven’t got everything lined up perfectly.
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im sure if you look at the live glasgow webcams you will see what im on about 😀 not tonight though its too dark 😉
nik
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great link nik… have to say for nearly midnight in Georges square it looks completely dead! 😕 traffic and bodies are buzzing at this time of night. 😕
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Sub it i shall!!
I already spoke to the lads at superwide graphics, i’ve used them in the past and they have always done a good job.
I do have a high frequency welder and have welded stuff together quite a lot but never anything that long.
Fair point about the print not lining up too. -
Hi Pyram
Yes def sub it – its just not worth the hassle of doing yourself especially as you will have to make such a long welded hem. I also reckon I could buy that in cheaper than I could print and finish it anyway.
Nik – I used to produce the George Square banner until my client went t1ts up! It was the first really big job I did – quite a task at 55m x 17.5m!
Cheers. Nick.
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