Chris Wilson
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Wasn’t so meaning the estimate of time and more expanding the time.
Granted if your at a restaurants with a customer that has 25 windows to be stripped and you’ve given him a price per hour that’s has to be what it is.But if I had a small van and told the customer it would take an hour to strip, can I get it down in half and hour using certain tools and techniques and then move onto two pop banners in that spare half hour. As then am doubling my hourly rate. Am always looking at things like this.
For example It’s an hour quicker to press all the fronts of 100 t-shirts then all the backs than doing front then back then front then back etc..
Personally for me productivity, even sometimes at a slightly higher cost, is just as important as the hourly rate. Providing your not effecting quality.
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I’ve not had a chance to watch it yet as ever time I open it at home a child suddenly required my attention again (rolls eyes) and I don’t think I can hide in the bog at work for 25 minutes.
But in terms of improving cash flow one thing I have found that has really helped us is a 3% discount (take that as you will) for large jobs that are pro-forma. Normally anything over a £1,000 for us. Maybe had one customer that didn’t bother. Rest have all gone for it. So one am not chasing and two there is more urgency for the customer to pay as they love a “discount”. Think record is about 20 minutes from the quote.
Anyway working for us at the moment.
I think once you have an hourly rate you need to start playing the game of how fast can you do jobs. Granted post heating is post heating, but is this really the quickest way to weed this? I’ve given up with small text now. Weed out the centres and fire it on the van or sign. Possibly saving myself 15mins + sometimes. All adds up.
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quote David Hammond:Yes I left a huge bridging gap, larger than the usual squeegee’s width, and it kept springing out the recess. Not enough grab to hold it in.
We just did the back of a custom using this SLX. Left a squeegee length, heated well away from the recess in it went in a charm. Didn’t pop out. Next day it felt welded on. Actually stay will us for another 2 days and all look good when leaving. Even tried having a wee peek at a triangle that wasn’t in main part of wrap and couldn’t see it come off easy without some heat. Would of been a right tug.
I did find little bubbles popping up on the flat part of the recess panel once it was in. Annoying but a bit of rubbing and all good. Again next few days no sign of them.
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If it’s a heavy ink coverage sounds like gassing out perhaps.
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We got some texture stuff from Avery (victory) that’s like breeze block and then printed out own graphics. Quite a cool finish and wasn’t expensive for a 22 meter roll.
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quote Luke Culpin:Big thumbs up for tradeprint.co.uk, been using them for years with no issues at all!
We are the same. Apart from some menus that where folded the wrong way once. I dunno who boxed that up and thought, yea this is normal. Customers going to be happy.
Quickly sorted though to be fair. We order multiple litho’s from them a week. Always arrives in time and not noticed any cut or alignment issues. But will keep an eye.
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Used it for the first time two weeks ago after being surprised on the price also.
It was easy to work with. Next morning it felt like it was bolted onto the vehicle to. Wouldn’t mind going on one if there course though being 100 % self taught.
I don’t think joe blogs could pick this up and wrap a mates car with no training or practice and it would be looking great in months to come. But certainly more difficult to make a mistake with it.
Did the door handle and being honest I struggle with little details like that but had it done in 20 minutes.if it was metamark MDX I don’t think I could of managed it. Not first go anyway.
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Payment issues we have stamped out.
Deliveries yes. But we have a 10 working day policy for most things. Anything under that if it’s not a stock item I tell the customer our shipping times and if it goes missing in the post there is nothing I can do about it. It’s there risk.
But yes it’s always the ones you really need that turn up late. We’ve stopped putting things on a 24hr service as that seems to take longer in this neck of the woods. 5 days for a packet of hats once…
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I think your able to basically pull it through with your tongue. Should be super loose is what I have been told.
My lads don’t believe me. And when I go away tighten it up. Never ends well.
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quote Kevin Mahoney:I prefer not to take large payments on the card machine & push for bacs. We also use stripe with our invoicing app but were lead to believe that the app isn’t going to be compliant with the new digital tax system & we’re advised to go with sage or quick books. Haven’t really had much time to look into it & my accountant & book keeper have both sat firmly on the fence. This side of the business really isn’t my bag
Using QuickBooks, links in with stripe well enough and all seems ok.
My point with stripe was if I was suddenly doing 6k a month or maybe even 10k a month in card I would look at a terminal as there fee per transaction would possibly work out more.
In terms of customer concerns we have had it for 2 years now and I just spin computer round and say “we use stripe, just like PayPal, just allows us to take card payments” and I’ve not had anyone refuse or look concerned.
Most of it is small transactions as well, garment prints, posters.. joe bloggers really.
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Yea we use stripe. Did the maths at Christmas and still cheaper than a terminal for us. Be only around 3k a month through on card. Most of our payments are BACS and we push for that
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Am a Corel user and there is definitely a way, but I don’t use it. Will ask business partner in the morning.
By sounds of it though I would consider just converting whole thing to a CMYK bitmap.
If you’ve not got the cut line yet copy it and convert to a greyscale or one bit then export a jpeg and trace from there.Also Corel won’t let you group and colour large amounts of objects anymore. It’s a pain in the hoop somedays.
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Tend to just let the customer decide.
If it’s straight forward enough or a good customer it’s same price.If it’s got a bench hard up against it, a window display of a 1000 things which despite being told to be clear for the time we are coming never is or a really damp/moisture filled place I tend to up the quote for inside.
Watch for the sun if really hot and your inside. Gave myself heat stroke once doing a Jamaican restaurant once. Had cancel rest of days jobs. Was only at window for half hour. It was rough.
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Agree with Kevin but we are the same as Hugh.
We laminate even our Monomeric prints for site safety jobs etc.. you never know they might be on site for 2 years.. or longer. Be pretty scuffed and battered by then.
Polymeric for everything else.
Customer recently asked me why my quote was £200 more, not really wanting the job I told him to go out his door, turn left, end of the street. SNP sign, was yellow, now Bleech white in less than 2 years. Called back 10 minutes later and job went ahead.
I agree with Kev though. We can all try and save £1 here, £9 there on how we print things or stock we buy, but end of the day more jobs that come out the workshop a day the more money we make.
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Didn’t know there was a plus, we have the FC for garment films. Easy to use. Fast cutting. Seems to track true over long runs. Quite happy with it. Would imagine it will be a decade or two before we replace it.
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Just in case anyone searches the form for a similar issue I’ll update.
Next day magenta panel was gone again. Did a clean. Lost every channel in some way shape or form. This didn’t improve.
New head (as we had worked that one to death anyway) and new pump fitted and we seem to be ok. All running at the moment anyway.
Pervious all the wet cleaning parts had been replaced and a new set of dampers in each channel.
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Probably driving Omar nuts as I keep telling him am about to buy a work station but not got there.
We do however have the laminator and its great. Hot or cold. Big runs/short runs.
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Cheers david. All suggestions where spot on.
Thankfully Roland just so happen to have our yearly check over today.
Could of been damper, could of been cap top station.. could also be the wee pin the sucks the ink through if they get a bit blocked up but I believe this would cause drop out when printing also.
Anyway will find out tomorrow if we have the same issue.
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Print button for job above. Just keeps everything same finish.
Comes down to job really. What’s quicker for fitting is the main thing. How small is the detail.
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Customers like that are not worth it. I used to pander to them, but now I tell them how we work or not to come back. I used to think it was a bummer loosing that £200 a week from them or whatever but now actually best thing. Improves work flow not having them.
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We run eco sol max 3, non 3rd party, and when it clicks and printer stops it is 100% out of ink. Not a drop left.
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Ultima displays
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Think you’ve got to. If work has been agreed sometimes people forget. It’s important to us but they might be doing 100 things at once and have forgotten.
We have a Xcel sheet. Once a price is agreed we put it in there and as far as I am concerned the job is going ahead.
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Ditto to what Paul has said. New building so went with
Sign elite after seeing them mentioned on here. It is nice to hear someone tell you or ask questions about certain jobs. Turns out we wouldn’t of been covered for some things with AXA despite trying to give them as much information as possible when signing up with them. -
Pretty sure screw fix sell a wheel clamp for £35. Nearly bought one before Christmas.
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quote Phill Fenton:I usually drink mine neat – albeit with a bit of ice which tends to water it down a bit :awkward:
Nearly drank panel wipe once. In my apprentice days we used to fill up old drinks bottles. Wasn’t nice tasting Ribena.. was also warm, no Ice 🙁
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Yea I would just tell him straight. We’ve changed to pro-forma on vans for all customers. Just tell him you don’t have time to chase up payments etc.. and it’s slowing you down.
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quote Jamie Wood:Does anyone know what is happening – are they going under? It seems odd, as they used to be very good.
Never used them but from reading other posts they seem really cheap compared to others.
My guess is either they have become busy fools, been bought over and the owner is trying to make changes or the one I would put money on is they are in trouble as the cheap prices are not covering costs and therefore some accounts are on stop hence the weeks and weeks for parts to come in that are ment to be in stock.Always a shame when a company goes from hero to zero. Hope everyone gets there stuff and things improve.
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Here’s the bad boy. I’ve zoomed in but even from afar you can see the difference in the paints and thickness.
But yes +1 for knifeless tape.
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quote Martyn Heath:Agree very good and very very expensive, thats why this arlon came into play, nearly half the price and as far as im aware not half the performance.
1104 is worth a look, its cheaper than 1105 just without EA. .My ears have just pricked up. Got around 1k for 50m bundle of the 1104.
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quote Simon Worrall:While it is easy to scratch the top clear coat surface, it is very different from gouging out a canal. I dont think i would have the strength to cut that deep even if I tried. Perhaps a stanley knife would do it, but you said you used a scalpel.
Either way, use knifeless tape next time!Wish I had a photo of the van we had in recently. Had been inlay panels and am guessing when it was removed the lacquer and paint had gone with it. Had been touched in with a light re-spray and was a old banger anyway, but my god. Corners weren’t even first go. There was 3 or 4 cut lines on each one all following slightly different curves.
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Can you get a second floor in?
Not ideal going up and down but long term going forward it gives more space.
We have just moved. Bit bigger but everything was built with the intention of work growing. Worked out we could comfortably have 9 people working for us in the layout and I would never want to employ more that that anyway.
Bigger the work bench the better in my opinion.
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quote Martyn Heath:Cant see it being anything over than bad material personally. I suggest sticking with a main brand, i use siser colorprint and its great.
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Nice one!
Now this thread has come up I feel the need to tell you all that I have concluded that most “graphic designers” are #########%+*?€~¥. Honestly. As useful as a wet paper bag.
Your client has given you landscape dimensions. Why is this portrait.
Your clients just collected your poster menus. Why did you not put in the photos in the artwork?
Why can’t you send me a complete file
Why can’t your send me a file with the 57 layers in the correct order
Why is your A4 sizes graphic 700GB on we transfer
Why is it still portrait and not landscape
No it’s not ready
It’s been 10 minutes since you last called it’s still not ready.It’s still portrait
There is still no photos on the file just blank spaces.
Why are all the drinks menus priced wrong.
Clients just picked up the menus, why did you change the ml and % to same colour as the background.
Shakes head. 5 of them I believe in two days. All for rush jobs for big clients, none of which should have been a rush should they have stuck to time scales.
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quote Alex Crosbie:I run mine day in day out at 800mm/s on a mix of Oracal 751 and oracal 3651 with laminate.
You have just blown my mind with the speed. Suddenly 60mm/s and 30mm/s on the Versacamm seem very slow.
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Hi Jonathan,
Are you meaning just two correx back to back? We have done this once before with just banner tape. Worked perfectly fine.
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We used siser ps for years then switched to victory. Like others have said other brands don’t come close to either. Took a long time for victory to convert me over, but we have regular customers and I’ve not seen any difference and no one has said anything. Swapped about a year and half ago. Customer service is good to whilst where saving a few pennies a meter.
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Personally whatever you think your time is worth.
First up you should always double material. So once design is signed off for the lorry you will know exactly how much you need. If it’s 6m personal round it up to 10m and charge for that. If there was a mistake not only do you have 4m spare and in stock it’s also covered and not coming out your back pocket.
When it comes to working out time it will be hard as it’s your first. Again put it down as a full day.
You should be covering any over heads in your time etc.. so for example to cover my over heads let’s say it’s £60 an hour my firm needs to produce.Personally I would quote for a full day at X amount. Don’t give them an exact hourly rate.
Don’t skimp on materials. Use the best for the job . Will be easier to fit and save time. Will also as more time goes on give the customer a better value and better reputation for you.
Don’t be half the price of your nearest competition. Sometimes mark ups seem really good in this industry and folks under cut with silly prices but they end up busy fools and unless you change how you are doing things and up the prices it’s not sustainable for long. Personally anyway.
Every area of the country is different price wise. Someone posted on here there the best price they could get for pop up banners in there area it is was almost half of what am getting.
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Was really hoping your first picture was a really good photoshop. That must be gutting
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quote David Stevenson:quote Chris Wilson:quote David Stevenson:The material used for folded signs however is impossible to cut like that you need to keep scoring until your through. /quote]
What are using David? Where using skybond and every now and again ibond and can’t say I have seen any difference between that and the lite stuff? Same technique.
I’m not sure what brand it is Chris I’d need to check when I’m back in work on Monday. We brought in a few sheets when our supplier was out of stock of sky bond. The core is a cream colour rather than black. Refuses to snap no matter how much you try to bend it!
Hmmm I wonder if it’s better for sign trays then. Less flex if core is stronger perhaps.
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[quote="David Stevenson"]
The material used for folded signs however is impossible to cut like that you need to keep scoring until your through. /quote]
What are using David? Where using skybond and every now and again ibond and can’t say I have seen any difference between that and the lite stuff? Same technique.
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Yea.
We have had miss tagged stuff before. More and more recently to be honest and if it’s just one size and one colour not something that gets noticed. Even with multiple sizes to be honest. Just get pressed and bagged.Gildan are really struggling to keep up with production it would seem. Seems a bit rushed recently. We have switch to AQ015 and AQ025 or the RTY polos.
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No/yes.
We have them as work wear and put them out ever week to customers. No issues.
But one customer did say about a year ago his had shrunk. And told him no way show me.. and he never did, but he swore he was telling the truth on the phone.
That’s impressive.
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Mr David is you man. Am sure he will be along shortly but should be threads about it. Maybe under copyright.
Strange how they never think they will get caught..
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We all get them. But I know the feeling.
Earlier in he year we did a nail salon. No special prices but he wanted window graphics. Outside and laminated one price, inside and back with white much more as they were long windows. Can’t afford inside.
So we make it perfectly clear it’s going on the outside and sign everything off. Day comes and some starts have a tantrum before we even unload the van that there going on the outside. Full on break down. Get on with it anyway. Happy with end result.Forward a few months and one of the boys bumps into him in the street. He has another shop, lad fobs him off and says we are to busy.
Next day we’re all on site. Come back to 22 missed calls and goodness knows how many Facebook messages asking why we not answer the phone.So I entertain. Give in. Go and see it. Double my price. Ok. Hand shakes all round.
Another proof produced. This time we put the graphics on the inside to save myself any hassle. Second window goes up.
“WHERE YOU GET THESE PHOTOS FROM!!!???!!”
WHY YOU USE THIS?? THIS IS NOT WHAT I WANT”..In amongst the abuse I asked if I should be a mind reader to which he told me I was a expert I should know what customers want…
All HD images to. Very nice quality.
So I whip out my phone, show him the emails. Point out where he says that’s what he wants and then I ask him, are you sure.. and he reply’s saying yes.
But on we go with the tantrum.
I give up. Is that my envelope with cash. Thank you goodbye.Will times the price by 10 next time.
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quote David Hammond:Perhaps we should give 3 options.
The all singing & dancing option
The middle of the road option
The cheapest option that ticks their boxes.Curious as to what others do?
Exactly what we do.
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Awesome. 10mm overlaps it is. Thank you
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Ultima displays or signwaves
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Sorry to steal the thread but any pointers on eco sol 3 empty carts would also be appreciated. Got 64 here
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Don’t think it was paint as on a skybond sheet.
Totally hear what everyone is saying about heat but having played around with that for years and got it pretty well down to a T bar these two jobs I mentioned I wondered what else it could be and if it’s not gasing out just just be down to the media. Should of taken a photo. Hopefully I won’t have to update this thread as wont come across it again.
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Something tells me it’s to do with gasing out.
Last year I was staying in the same hotel with some of the red bull f1 team top brass and I was speaking to the guy who is head of logistics. They sort of own a print company next to there factory. It was 2pm on Thursday and he said he could order a whole next garage kit there and then and they would it produced and flown out to monza in time for Friday morning. Of course could be latex machines but I explained why we could do that with ours and he said things get re-done a lot. So maybe your super bike team where similar.
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Interesting Paul. Not called Roland yet as pretty flat out and just finish my 14 hour shift (rolls eyes and sighs).
It is on top of carpet which I once got told can create static. Just about to move and as much as I love the smell of new carpet maybe Lino in the print room would be better..
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Hi Chris,
I was wondering about the cap top. There has been dribbles if ink round the edge from time to time.
It’s under cover with Roland so will call them after Easter break. Didn’t want them coming all the way up for nothing but sounds like it could be over my head and need a bit of tinkering
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quote Daniel Evans:Thanks guys, I thought it was a cast, not sure where I got that from.
Ok maybe not laminate on to that then, I have some Avery cast in stock so could maybe use that or attempt it without, I might do a trial as I have the van for a few days and some 751 in stock.
It’s a “cylinder” cast.
So I would image it’s made on a roll but is or was a liquid so effectively a polymeric that’s had a bit of Boil.And I can agree it doesn’t like a relay recess. Buy cheap buy twice ay. It does have its uses though.
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Suppose it depends how your Corel is set-up and which version but we use Corel with versaworks and Roland vs540 on CMYK. No issue with greys. Could it be the rip or the monitor settings making it look grey on screen but it’s actually not?
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Oft! Must say Kev your last post certainly got the creative juices running. Love this!
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Give shore wraps a shout as am sure I saw them recently on Instagram showing off theirs.. sure it was Arlon. Normally always see 3M or Avery so it stuck with me.
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Ditto.
Not worth the worst case personally, for the few pennies you save per print it doesn’t really work out any more competitive job to job.Not that helps now. But we did have issue with the cyan on eco sol 3. They think something went wrong where there was flakes of dried ink in the line or it had become to thick and end up sitting in the head. It’s to thick to blast through hense the nozzle drop out. New head for us (thankfully cover by Roland on there care package). Not good news, once your up and running again though I would look into it. They have never left us high and dry.
Hopefully all sides of the parties can solve this
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We have this. Defo have it. Used it for a tattoo parlour. Let me check tomorrow.
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Same all the way north. Can’t get in. Nightmare to get rid off.
Had a stack of old shop signs at one point taking up space. Called our bin company, maybe talking about 8 8ft x 4ft, possibly less. £135. Which I thought was a bit steep considering our bin is £4.95 a week.
Be much happier to pay a monthly fee. Quite happy to recycle as much as possible to.
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Used Avery frosting with air escape before. Can’t say I noticed any bad marks though.
I would say the colour wasn’t as nice. Was a bit white which is why I have not used it again.
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If it was 4m x a meter we lay both sheets on the table. Apply as one piece, then I cut down the join with a scalpel. Longs the boards are lined up correctly when it comes to fitting the only way it can be off is if we have fitted the first sheet off.
Our table is only 3m long so tend to put one side down and 100mm or so of the next sheet (held up by boxes) do the cut then slide the next sheet onto the bench.
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Wouldn’t call it a chrome to be fair but from the few phone calls I made this was the best option life span.
Other than the Avery supreme gold chrome at £104 a meter or whatever it was. Not something I want a sample of anyway let alone order.
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Don’t quote me on this but I believe it is tensol 12.
We got some sent to us by mistakes (rollseyes) that was ment to be for skybond letters. After it failing I posted on here.
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Using Avery 800 this week.
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Once years ago but in retail. Wife and husband came in, not exactly looking fresh or well off. Sold them what they wanted but the lower end of the scale. Got to the till and I’ve never seen so much cash in a wallet. All 50’s to. Enough for a house deposit in there. My sale.. £42
I also got lectured for invoicing a job up front today (rolls eyes).
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quote Jamie Wood:Sorry to hijack, but we are in the market for a new laminator, and wondered if anyone has any recommendations. Needs to be 1600 wide. We currently have a Seal 62 Base, but it’s starting to show it’s age now.
Cheers,
JamieMounters mate 100%. More I use ours more I love it. Give Omar a shout. I think rob has one to and plenty of others in here.
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Mixture of the above I suppose.
We are in 8am till 6pm Monday to Friday. Our opening time is 10am. Gives those two hours in the morning to set up the day and get boys sorted for there day. It stopped me working Saturday mornings.
Emails, I suppose like rob. Phone is on silent but I do check it through out the day and reply when I see I need to. I find that customers appreciate that it’s out of hours and your immediately giving them a above and beyond service. But also I tried ignoring everyone for a whole weekend once. Came in at 8am. Didn’t move from my desk till 3pm. That’s when I got lunch. It completely ruined the rhythm of the day and week to be honest. Much rather fire off emails here and there over the weekend now.
Don’t hand out my personal number. Actually had someone call at 1am once, to which I answered as we had already done work for them and I thought something had gone horrible wrong to be greeted with “I’ve been thinking and I think if we change this colour to this and blah blah blah”. Made me reconsider as that’s way over the line of the normal customer service. Some customers take ten miles and treat it like a inch.
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quote Jonathan feeney:It wasn’t easy as it was mdf i was going on to we used avery mpi2006 hi tack and it done the trick in hindsight i should have used matt ,i didn’t joe but it put me right in the mood for it [emoji23]
In the past we have laminated this a polymeric matt laminate and it’s come up great. Typically a no no as everything should match but so far so good for us lifespan wise
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Might not be exactly what your looking for but ultima displays have a few
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On our machine we have 2 pinch rollers with a blue mark than 7 we can put in and out. The ones with the blue mark are the ones it reads, so should be on outside edge of the media for both..
That could not be the answer as I don’t have this machine.
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We are similar as Phil but digital
We have a xcel document.
Split into 3 pages: garments, signs, litho.Customers order goes in with a brief description. Total is there so if there is not invoice and am out the office the lads can hook it up. Few colour codes, yellow in product box means it’s been ordered. Orange on the customers name means it’s in production at some stage or another. Green means job is done. Invoice number goes next to the job total. That goes purple when sent.
Every Monday I wipe the white board clean and write in each section what needs completed that week. Any extra info goes next to it. Also have a column in here for our designer for artwork jobs. Which get ranked in order of who I like.
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Is this curling and lifting? Or when they go to pull it off the letters stay on the sheet? If so the cut pressure is to high or knife is sticking out to far from the holder. Or it could be very cold in there workshop.
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Exactly that. We are about to do this with a matt finish as customer wanted a certain colour that doesn’t come in that colour.
Could of failed for a number of reasons. Could of been that the laminate applied had way to much tension on it. I believe that’s a thing.
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quote Bernard Gallagher:We do loads of rally cars. Very easy to be a busy full & be blinded by the “sure u will get loads of (bad paying[emoji85]) work from this car.
Not what I was meaning, I couldnt comment as didn’t charge.
However sticking to a similar formula as to how we calculate if I had charged full price we would of over charged by £130 if I stuck to the hourly rate. So quids in.
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So on your rally car chris you charged your full rate for 17hrs or had you under charged on time?
Charged £0.00 as it’s going to a few shows with us (he says having not booked his place yet and so up to the eyeballs in work I don’t know why I want more) and as experience having not done a full one, just loads of part vans, back doors, but always the bigger ones. We sponsor the girl anyway and did it at night times after work.
To be fair though we did pick up another 6 rally cars once I started showing wee teasers.
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Seems like a good time to me also. Only ever done big vans for back doors and it’s normally half a day.
Did a full rally car the other week and that was 17 hours..
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quote Patrick Donaghey:Thanks for the relpy , I have been looking at the latex models and loved the idea of instant drying, what type of vinyl are you using david on the hp its just for 3mm aluminum hoarding thanks
Chris what model of a vs are you talking about and is there a rough price for the roland care per year thanks
We have just a Roland VS 540. You get the VSI also but am not sure what the difference is. We picked our up for £7995 3 years ago now, with take up and fresh batch of inks. I’ve seen them for a bit cheaper recently. I would take a look around at all the normal dealers, printmax, Grafityp, granthams etc.. to name a few. Tons more. A lot will take trade ins at this time of year also.
Don’t know if I am allowed to discuss Roland care packages and the prices on here but they have 3 options of care and even on bronze you are covered for all parts. I will say though that even one head strike a year and you are quids in and possibly a faster repair time than calling someone out. (Not that we have head strikes often).
I would look around though. Lots of great machines out there. If I was buying again would be a tough choice.
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Personally I would set our Roland VS up on the take up bar run them off over night (or most of them) if it was one batch.
We are normally about 35- 45 minutes for 8ft x 4ft on standard print setting. Possibly less actually.
Plenty of these knocking around second user from dealers at below your budget by couple of 1,000. Can also get Roland care on them which I swear by as anything that goes wrong your not picking up the bill. As you have Roland’s already if the ink type is the same then re-prints of artwork will be a lot closer than another brand. Plenty of other Rolands print only under that budget but I don’t know the names.
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I thought that would slip through the net (rolls eyes). Eagle eyes on here ay… haha.
Yea my mistake. Teaches me for not looking at the mock. The other lad was doing the smaller text and had his the same as mine and as we are using red from a left over job and it’s a freebie for a mate I let it go…
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Hi David,
Cheers.
Yea we thought all the same. But customer dictated the position and the fonts. Although script was a nightmare to CNC cut so next time it will be a flat out no unless it close the size of mcbains.Never noticed the S though. I can see it now. Does look off.
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We have the magic touch swing press. Works a charm.
Including multi colours prints/sleeves etc… must of done over 100,000 presses by now. Possible closer to 200k. No problems as of yet.
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Cheers Iain.
Just ordered there starter kit.
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Hi gil,
Well that’s annoying but the conclusion we were coming to. Thanks amari. Wee phone call tomorrow I would say. Wish reps would just say sometimes “oh I dunno” instead of this will do.
Big head offsets, got the biggest size from europoint, is this what your meaning? Or is there a different shape?
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Should possible also add these are just flat skybond letters and not built up or anything
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Hi Christian,
From my understanding that is exactly what would happen. If the colour is super dark/heavy on print then you could leave it even longer. We tend to leave wrap at least 72hrs, although last car I did I left for over a week before laminating. Better safe than sorry if you can.
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Gas out time is 48hrs before laminating. It allows everything to settle, adhesive on the back etc.. needs to be a Warm and dry room. If you don’t have a fan you should flip the roll round once or twice as all the gas will sit at the bottom of the roll.
That said should be touch dry within a few hours if not straight away. Make sure your heater is running to media default and not a low heat. Personally though I would leave them to gas out as getting vinyls to stick to various paints can be a nightmare and sometimes just not possible.
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+1 for unique
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Skybond piece on the back and bend it round like a hook. Both sides and top and bottom.
I’ve only every done one inside and this was how it was done previous so that maybe not be the right answer given wind and that.
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Signholdersdirect do a number of self adhesive folders etc.. not sure if they do a pen holder.
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Send it of to unique art services. They will sort it out for a couple of quid and save you some time. Plenty others to.. in fact is this forum not doing vector artwork now to?
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Cheap paint. Paints not soaked into the wall properly.
Nothing you could do about that. We always advise our clients it is a risk.
I would heat over the vinyl just to make sure it got a proper bond, but if it was done a while back and it’s still there I don’t think it
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Grafityp have a range of funky vinyls for printing. Can’t mind if they have what your looking for though.
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Don’t have a mutoh but from other people’s posts that are similar it will be fluff on the head/head area.
Could be bi direction but would be massively out.
Other things I’ve seen mentioned are cold and static.
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Through an advertising agency and the colour they have chosen is the bronze from Avery 800 series, but Matt not gloss (rolls eyes)
Everything is quite strict colour wise as customer is getting a full rebrand, not just the signs. So this matches up.
I can say no and produced a plan B, but just wanted to check if it was possible as colour vinyl and digital vinyl do have different make up, didn’t want the laminate not to bond correctly and 3 years later have various signs with a wee failures here and there.
I’ll check the other swatches but as it’s quite a unique colour I thought I would try this route first and save a bit of time calling round and faffing about.
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Hi David,
Shouldn’t get to much shrink on the poly and we have some, but I suppose if we’re going to do something might as well as just order a cast matt. Sure I can use it up with something else in future anyway.
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I’d explain the pro and con to the customer and let them decide. Much easier and neater to fit smaller panels though
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Would of had a head clamp come with it when it was new I would of thought.
Will be a YouTube video on what to do. Best to have 3 or 4 people of you can though.
And it can never be to secure in the van
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For 6k I don’t know why you are stalling? Am guessing this is a second user machine? Or have you missed a 1 before 6.
Call Roland. They can run a test on the machine is its second hand. If it’s all good you can put it under care so any major issue with it will no be paid for by them.
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On a serious note one thing that has helped.
We had one of those straight ages with a black handle on it. Constant shocks. So I went and bought a flat cheapy almost feels like metal one from B&Q and put some masking tape on the side touching the print. Seems to have made a difference. That and a anti cut glove