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  • Vinyl print on garments gone bad.

    Posted by David Stevenson on June 30, 2019 at 8:09 pm

    Decided it was time to smarten ourselves up a bit so went and bought some soft shell jackets. Ordered some vinyl from xpres and proceeded to add some logos to them. After a week some black spots started to appear. Now a couple of months later they look terrible. Jackets are 93% polyester, 7% elastane. According to the description the vinyl we bought is suitable for the job. Can anyone offer any insight as to why this has happened? We print very few garments and when we do it’s always been t-shirts or polo’s. Never had this problem on any of them. Very frustrating as now they just create a bad image, and at 35 quid each we’re not overly impressed their destroyed ๐Ÿ™ Thanks

    Martyn Heath replied 4 years, 10 months ago 6 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Chris Wool

    Member
    June 30, 2019 at 9:33 pm

    was the material a subli block type presume the jackets to be the black bit

  • David Stevenson

    Member
    June 30, 2019 at 11:10 pm

    The material is what xpres call "ultra cut turbo". It’s just a standard garment vinyl. After your comment I looked and can see they do a block out material for football kits. The black you see is indeed the jacket

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    July 1, 2019 at 4:53 am

    Never seen this before. I would expect the fail to be either peeling off or fading, but your saying its basically falling apart dot by dot?

    Cant see it being anything over than bad material personally. I suggest sticking with a main brand, i use siser colorprint and its great.

  • Chris Wilson

    Member
    July 1, 2019 at 5:43 am
    quote Martyn Heath:

    Cant see it being anything over than bad material personally. I suggest sticking with a main brand, i use siser colorprint and its great.

    100% agreed.
    Personally donโ€™t think it needed to be block out. Not block out from siser/victory anyway.

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    July 1, 2019 at 2:45 pm

    This was printed garment film rather than textile vinyl?

    I’ve had similar on a material I was supplied in the past, though with high pressure it was showing through almost immediately.

    I’ve used the metamark film with pretty good results, it’s not designed for use with latex (which I use) but for short term everyone so far has been happy with it.

    I do think you’ll find that the softshell jackets usually come with a notice that they’re to be embroidered and are not suitable for heat pressed films. We all do it but I’ve had a few failures.

    I stick to siser film now (solid colours), had failures with TMT films bought through ralawise, they wouldn’t accept it could possibly be material, despite the first twenty garments printed with the siser blue (same colour) were all stuck solid, as was the white siser film, and only the blue tmt failed. had a ater fail with some green, eventually binned all films except the siser ranges and will use nothing else now.

  • David Stevenson

    Member
    July 1, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    Hi Hugh, it was all solid colours. Going to do it Irish style now and cut a couple of logos slightly bigger and stick them over the top! Can’t look any worse surely?

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    July 1, 2019 at 4:46 pm
    quote David Stevenson:

    Hi Hugh, it was all solid colours. Going to do it Irish style now and cut a couple of logos slightly bigger and stick them over the top! Can’t look any worse surely?

    Im 0.7% irish and i take offense to that.

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    July 1, 2019 at 5:56 pm
    quote Martyn Heath:

    quote David Stevenson:

    Hi Hugh, it was all solid colours. Going to do it Irish style now and cut a couple of logos slightly bigger and stick them over the top! Can’t look any worse surely?

    Im 0.7% irish and i take offense to that.

    I’m 25% Welsh and have no issue with it at all ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Kevin Mahoney

    Member
    July 1, 2019 at 6:42 pm

    Iโ€™m 100% Irish Martyn, & Iโ€™ve done that more than once or twice [emoji1]

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    July 2, 2019 at 4:32 am

    :smiles: :smiles:

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