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  • solvent or latex Fast printer around 10k

    Posted by Patrick Donaghey on February 25, 2019 at 10:28 am

    Hi Folks im looking for advice on a fast printer that has to minium 54" wide, I dont need print and cut just print for 8ft x 4ft sheets ,
    I have a vp540 and a vp300 but to print 20 sheets 8ft x4ft in a week is a big task now as the vp540 is slow even on draft settings. I dont want to sub the work out as it sometimes the art work changes at the last minute. I looking to see what other people would be using for this type printing. Tyhanks again for any input

    Robert Walker replied 5 years, 2 months ago 6 Members · 9 Replies
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  • David McCarroll

    Member
    February 25, 2019 at 12:23 pm

    Hi Patrick,

    We use latex and wouldn’t move away from them for the sheer convenience of being able to use media straight away etc.

    We ran 2x full 50 meter rolls yesterday of full coverage on 1370mm wide and it took around 9 hours so assuming your running 20x 8×4 per week the running time would be 4-5 hours. that is at a 12 pass print mode, we run promo stuff at 6 pass for one of our clients and it looks fine apart from some slight banding but the products are always used at distance or height and for less than one week so it ticks the box for them, that pass rate would be about 3 hours for a 50 meter roll. we run HP 330’s.

    Hope that helps or at least throws an option in the mix.

    I think you could get a new 315 with the budget you have but bare in mind that unit doesnt come with a take up and is limited to 54" width where as the 335 will be slightly more cost but you get full width and the take up.

  • Chris Wilson

    Member
    February 25, 2019 at 1:00 pm

    Personally I would set our Roland VS up on the take up bar run them off over night (or most of them) if it was one batch.

    We are normally about 35- 45 minutes for 8ft x 4ft on standard print setting. Possibly less actually.

    Plenty of these knocking around second user from dealers at below your budget by couple of 1,000. Can also get Roland care on them which I swear by as anything that goes wrong your not picking up the bill. As you have Roland’s already if the ink type is the same then re-prints of artwork will be a lot closer than another brand. Plenty of other Rolands print only under that budget but I don’t know the names.

  • Patrick Donaghey

    Member
    February 25, 2019 at 3:30 pm

    Thanks for the relpy , I have been looking at the latex models and loved the idea of instant drying, what type of vinyl are you using david on the hp its just for 3mm aluminum hoarding thanks

    Chris what model of a vs are you talking about and is there a rough price for the roland care per year thanks

  • Colin Crabb

    Member
    February 25, 2019 at 4:08 pm

    +1 for latex, we’d never go back to solvent based machines now.

  • David McCarroll

    Member
    February 25, 2019 at 4:10 pm
    quote Patrick Donaghey:

    Thanks for the relpy , I have been looking at the latex models and loved the idea of instant drying, what type of vinyl are you using david on the hp its just for 3mm aluminum hoarding thanks

    Chris what model of a vs are you talking about and is there a rough price for the roland care per year thanks

    Hi Patrick,

    For short use stuff like hoardings we would just use an oracal 3164 grey back vinyl, roughly about £80 per roll.

  • Chris Wilson

    Member
    February 25, 2019 at 5:06 pm
    quote Patrick Donaghey:

    Thanks for the relpy , I have been looking at the latex models and loved the idea of instant drying, what type of vinyl are you using david on the hp its just for 3mm aluminum hoarding thanks

    Chris what model of a vs are you talking about and is there a rough price for the roland care per year thanks

    We have just a Roland VS 540. You get the VSI also but am not sure what the difference is. We picked our up for £7995 3 years ago now, with take up and fresh batch of inks. I’ve seen them for a bit cheaper recently. I would take a look around at all the normal dealers, printmax, Grafityp, granthams etc.. to name a few. Tons more. A lot will take trade ins at this time of year also.

    Don’t know if I am allowed to discuss Roland care packages and the prices on here but they have 3 options of care and even on bronze you are covered for all parts. I will say though that even one head strike a year and you are quids in and possibly a faster repair time than calling someone out. (Not that we have head strikes often).

    I would look around though. Lots of great machines out there. If I was buying again would be a tough choice.

  • Bernard Gallagher

    Member
    February 25, 2019 at 11:56 pm

    I’d go Latex for 2 reasons.
    1) it’s dried quicker & great machine.
    2) little to no maintenance on a Latex. Your not doing enough printing to keep s Solvent going

  • Patrick Donaghey

    Member
    February 26, 2019 at 10:04 am

    Thanks for all the replies im still looking 🙂

  • Robert Walker

    Member
    February 26, 2019 at 10:03 pm

    Could be way out here but is/was there an issue with latex and laminate? I’ve just purchased an EJ-640 and this was a concern as I mainly wrap vehicles. On a side note I’ll have a VS-640 coming up for sale in the coming weeks.

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