[Robert Scullion]

Thanks Dave

Its just the fact that all I’ve heard are problems after problems with vista regarding running software/hardware etc.

Bought a new Summa 1260 wide plotter got a desktop built with xp installed and everything runs great, touch wood.

Just need a new laptop for both home use and some work stuff I can do at home, as long as it allows me to use corel x3 and signlab.

Thanks again for taking the time to reply

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Thanks for the replies guys. Not being that computer literate, am I better to have one custom made with xp installed as all the high street stores and the likes of dell all seem to go with vista as standard ?

Thanks again

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Thanks Martin

Will give Roland a call

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Chris

You where right, 23 mins on the phone to Edward Mathias, good stuff though and some sound advise. They do a blade/holder assembly the same as the one in my plotter

Was advised to change the cutting strip but having difficulty locating one, any advice guys.

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Thanks again to all for the replies

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Robert / Martin

Thanks for the prompt replies, will try printone tomorrow, whats the best degree of blade for everyday use, not that I use it every day, thats probably why its lasted so long.

Martin, you say as though the blade is seperate from the holder. the one I have is like a black plastic tube with a retaining ring half way down with a brass part at the bottom that includes the blade, I thought this was an assembly as such.

[Robert Scullion]

George

Thanks for that, its exactly what am looking for.

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Thanks for the tips and info guys

Got some self adhesive felt, will try making my own

Thanks again

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Martin

Can you advise who supplied you with "the bad batch"

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Cheers

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Joe

Thanks for the reply. I am sure the guy’s drivers are at it with the mags but want to keep myself right.

Still on tint dude, tinting is mostly what I do, the signwork is just something I fell into, dont do a great deal but every little helps

Jingle Bells

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Used the 0.85mm as I have always done

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Kate

Thanks for the prompt reply, the reason I am asking is that I have a customer who I done some mag signs for. He is saying they are not as heavy or strong as previous ones he had and that he has lost a couple saying they have come off.

My immediate reaction is they have not been fitted properly or are not on flat panels.

He denies this saying he has had mag signs on various vehicles and never had this problem. He thinks the mag is not strong enough.

Incidently the material used was from europoint and I have not had this problem before

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Try vinyl logistics, (01636613222) I know they do red / rose shaded window film or http://www.dartsfilmz.co.uk

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Can I jump in here and a few questions, please.

I have a similar thing on the go at the moment and was wondering is it better done in toughehen glass ? If you do it in acrylic, is it actually acrylic or perspex (whats the main difference between the 2 products)

If doing them with acrylic or perspex can I get them anywhere pre-cut with the nice polished edge ?

The examples shown by you guys look terrific, really classy looking.

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Did’nt explain myself too good, the old existing sign is smaller.

Is it advisable to attach raised lettering to a dibond or foamboard panel ?

I was under the impression these would flex slightly in the frame.

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Thanks for the prompt replies, I was thinking along the same lines as Rob that the glass would be a nicer finish.

When asking a glazier I assume you have to give them a template rather than stating something like 500mm x 200mm, small radius on corner and 10mm hole 25mm in from each corner.

Thanks again peeps

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Thanks for taking the time to reply guys. Maybe its just me, dont know if I used too much but did squeegee really hard to remove as much liquid as poss. Have read the instructions on the bottle, only difference is they say to spray vinyl, I sprayed the glass but shouldn’t think that would make any difference

Thanks again

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

On the subject of lightboxes, I have a customer who is taking over a shop that has an existing light box and they want me to replace the fascia. Can you guys advise what type of acrylic/perspex I need and who best to supply (Glasgow area)

Sorry if this seems a straightforward thing to most of you guys but I have not done this type of work before

Any help appreciated

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

There are various window films that can help combat this problem. You can reduce the glare dramaticaly depennding on what product you go for, a lot depends on the clients needs, do people need to see in or out of the affected glass ?

If I can help give me a call.

Bob

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[Robert Scullion]

Thanks for the replies guys, usually apply a little heat on removing old vinyl but was a bit apprehensive because of the fibreglass body. I think I’ll go with trimming approx 1mm on rear door panels, makes sense

Thanks again

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Jim / Robert

Thanks for the replies guys.

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Dave

Sounds good, any contact info ? web site etc, or do I try Hexis directly

Thanks for the reply

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Sorry guys, didn’t explain it properly, the galaxy has privacy glass so an internal sign would be of no use, it would have to be exterior.

Thanks for all the replies

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Martin

If you intend to place the sticker on the inside of the glass does that mean its printed in reverse and on the adhesive side of the sticker ?

The oki prints onto printable vinyl, white or clear seem to be all you can get, A4 size, but you would have to trim / cut the to size manually.

The other option may be the Epson c86 with th craft robo, with the contour cut facility. Just a thought.

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Be carefull using heat gun on shop front glass / windows. If its laminated and you use too much heat you will crack the glass from the edge if it is not a perfect cut on the glass or you can damage the interlayer in the glass.

Your best shot is start to remove the film and hope that it is good quality which normally strips easier, most of the adhesive will come away with the film, any glue left on the glass can be removed as stated in previous reply, with a 6 inch razor scraper but you must make sue you use a new blade to ensure you dont scratch the glass.

If its really bad, use rapid remover or a good quality adhesive remover to soften th adhesive first.

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Nick

Safety / Security films come in various grades / thicknesses. They can be very difficult to shrink / conform on awkward curved glass even for the experienced film applicator.

Give ma a call tomorrow if poss. easier to explain verbally rather than waffling on here.

Bob

Prestige-Auto-Tints
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[Robert Scullion]

John

Thanks for yhe reply / info

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Robert

I’d like to take you up on the offer of seeing your craft robo in action. I have been toying with the idea of getting one, mainly for small decals and signs that are a pain to weed with cut vinyl.

I am in Clydebank.

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Thanks

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Thanks for the replies. What is flame polishing ? Sorry if the answer is obvious but never heard this before.

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

If the main reason for installation is to hide lights etc from outside but still allow as much light as poss in via the glass you would be better using a window film, not a vinyl.

Anglian Window Films do matte films for flat glass, mainly for this sort of thing, films like the matte white will stop you seeing in, unless an object is directly against the glass, then you will see the outline, but still allow 77% light transmission through the glass. When fitted it looks similsr to etched vinyl.

Anglians number is 01603-420574 if it helps

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Lee,

Did you apply to the inside or outside ?

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Sounds like you have got contamination under the film. Especially as it sounds like you have fitted it on the outside of the screen, the film is not outside weatherable and will scratch very badly if it is on the outside.

Even though you think you have your glass as clean as possible, if you try to install window film on the outside the glass will be both pitted with small marks and believe me by the time you remove the release liner and get your tint into position, if you are not experienced you will get contamination between the tint and the glass.

I always install visors on the inside of the screen ( window film ) but on the odd occassion I do a visor with vinyl I fit that to the exterior.

Bob

ps if you have a window tint guy near you it may be best to get him to do the next one, should only cost £15 to £20 for a visor

[Robert Scullion]

Does anyone know if this is the case ? I did express an interest when it was originally stated that Adrian was mentioning he was looking to do demos etc, but to date have not heard anything.

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Lynn

I used Oracal etch yesterday for the first time, seems fine, nothing negative as far as I could see.

They list 2 types, course structure and fine but only seem to stock the fine

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

As macky said he got it from qvc, I looked on thier website, 2 different models for sale

385w cuts to 10mm with 2 blades £76

400w cuts to 13mm with 5 assorted blades £124

[Robert Scullion]

This may not be everyones method, but I find that it a lot easier wet, preferably with rapid tac, allows a short period to get film into correct position, squeegee, then move onto 2nd panel, by the time you are finished with that one the first one is ready for removal of tape.

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

I hear what your sayin Kev but my problem is that the ones everyone suggests are for self tappers or countersunk screws, the ones I intend to use are the self drilling ones that have a small bolt head,ie fitted with a 5/16 socket and the head is raised, if you see what I mean

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Hi Carrie

Thanks for prompt reply, my problem is that the self drill screws have a bolt head, if you know what I mean and cant see covers to suit, just wondered what the other guys used when they used thes self drill screws

Thanks again

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

I am looking at having a new web site done and want to include plates like most of you guys.

Any chance of some of you posting your site address so I can have a look

Cheers

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

It can only be a fault with the product or the instalation, either it wasnt just water in your bottle and something has reacted with the adhesive or it hasnt been sufficiently squeegeed. even if you have not squeegeed it enough it should not come off the glass completely but you may get a couple of spears /fingers.

Who’s film did you use(manufacturer)?

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

would I be better going for a thermal transfer print and cut machine for this type of work, ie gerber edge or color camm? I know this will be expensive but is it the only option?

[Robert Scullion]

Thanks guys

Was able to use application launcher in corel when I used sl6, now I’ve got sl7 it wont do it

Using Marcellas method now but thought it was easier c/o the app launcher.

Will try Big G’s suggestion.

Thanks again

Bob 😮

[Robert Scullion]

Jane

I am looking to get involved with t shirts etc but dont want to spend too much initially, just to ensure its worthwhile.

I read with interest the way you go about it, I also use corel, roland camm1, but not sure how you produce the contour lines with the software for cutting, would you mind sharing this info with me please.

Preferably in the simplest way possible, not the most computer literate guy

Thanks

Bob

Prestige-Auto-Tints, 0141-951-4006

[Robert Scullion]

One way vision is down to the light ratio,ie 7 to 1, to obtain true one way vision there has to be 7 times more light on the outside so to speak as there is on the inside( area you want to keep private)

We achieve this by using what you would class as limo tint 5% vlt, or by using both mirror tint, silver 20, and then the 5%.

You are right when you say it works in opposite at night, ie when ratio is reversed, lighter inside than out.

Phone Bekaert Specialty Films, 01905-640400, they can advise better and will send you some swatch samples.

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Regarding the “tint”, if you fit any visor tinted or solid the rules are the same, if it is a tinted visor it should by law allow 45 % of light to transfer through it.

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

6 cm from the edge of the obscuration band ( black border around screen )

In most cases this is a waste of time as the visor takes the natural curve of the glass and 6 cm down from the band on the left and right edge of the screen means it will only be approx 4 cm in the centre.

Pete’s right, if the car is in a bump and the insurance find out that there is a visor lower than 6 cm they effectively could refuse to pay out.

This does not stop them being sold at car accessory shops etc, I always advise if they are stopped I cannot accept responsibility, dont issue invoice, they have to admit to it being a self fit.

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

I do plates to and use the citizen thermal printer, print onto reflective then laminate to acrylic which is sticky, never had any probs.

I’d like to get hold of some of these reflectives with the fancy ghosting, badges, the ones I get from my supplier, sister co of Automarque, are quite bland and run of the mill, have seen some really nice ghosted images,badges but cant locate any. Do you guy’s, Becky & Dewi print your badges and ghosting using your edges & PC60 thingys.

I have cut some in vynil and they look ok once laminated to the plate nut I am limited to what I can reproduce.

Carbon fibre domed digits, can any of you guy’s supply these?

Marty, you state that you print your carbon/3d & shadows, what do you print them with?

Gypsy, Dewi is right, using the printed stickers from automarque is ok, they are cheap and look ok, if you give them a call they will send you a poster with the different badges they do.

Cheers

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Thanks Paul, sent an e-mail

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Cheers guys

The guys at europoint said 751 should be ok, have recommended it in the past and had no compaints

Bob 😮

[Robert Scullion]

Rich

You can get tint/film that is what they class as outside weatherable, ie to be applied on the outside of the glass.

If you contact Bekaert Specialty Films, ask for Steve Belfort, 01905-640400. They are not the cheapest but probably supply the best quality of flat glass film.

Cheers Bob

[Robert Scullion]

% figure means the amount of light allowed to transfer through the glass, from the outside to the inside of the vehicle. The higher the % the lighter the tint. The VOSA, VEHICLE OPERATORS SERVICES AGENCY, will accept 45% vlt, visible light transmission, on windows forward of the b post, at a road side check, any darker and the owner/driver will be issued with a prohibition order, a temporary order if the vlt is between 30% and 45% effectively giving the owner/driver 10 days to rectify the prohibition, an immediate prohibition is issued if the vlt is below 30%, this in effect means it must be removed there and then. Glass behind the b post can have any grade of vlt film fitted provided the vehicle in question is equipped with 2 exterior rear view mirrors, ie door or wing mirrors.

If you are unsure what I mean and dont get the gist of this give me a call.

You have to take into account that after th fitting of tints under no circumstances would the vehicl be covered via the insurance if they find out it is lower than 45%, some wont cover if below 70%(standard tinted glass on most cars)

[Robert Scullion]

Regarding some of the advice here, I know some people mean well but dont try it if you have not got the basic knowledge or the correct tools. I have been toying with the idea of offering some sort of training, rather than people spending fortunes to be given a biased view on 1 customers product who happens to be running a training session.

If anyone is really interested I dont mind letting them come and see how we do it, ie spend a day here to see the basics etc. I am not saying what we do is the best or easiest or even the quickest but it works for me and I’ve been doing it for over 6 years now.

Like all of us we have our own way of doing things.

On a negative note, as you will appreciate I dont want to advise or show anyone who in reality could become a threat, ie someone who is near to me.

I feel this is fair and it is my way of offering to help some of you guys who have been very helpfull and inspirational to me

Cheers

Bob

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[Robert Scullion]

I use a company called Autoxtra, 0141-776-4848,

[Robert Scullion]

Andy

I have the land rover logo on a graphics 2 go disk, if you want me to forward it give me a note of your e-mail

Bob
signandtint@aol.com
0141-951-4006 😮

[Robert Scullion]

I was going to say something similar to autosign about the adhesive, would it be an alternative to do it similar to applying reflective, applying it on top of another vinyl for ease of removal ?

[Robert Scullion]

Peter

Thanks for the prompt reply, I am looking at whats on the go regarding doming, would like to get involved with badges, decals etc. I take it you do doming ?

Do you have one of these pc60 or versacam printers to print your badges/logos ? I know a couple of firms do complete starter packages around £1000. Print on an inkjet then run through a cutter, CPL-20 which contour cuts the badge or logo ready to dome.

Looking for as much info as possible

Thanks again

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Lil Chislers, these are available from most window film suppliers, Baekert and Vinyl logistics who I use do them.

Baekert – 01905-640400

Hope this helps

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Ian

Someone mentioned VWS on another post regarding some training for wrapping. Is the bus done with thier vinyl ? have you atteneded thier course ? just curious, trying to find out as much as possible about wrapping.

Cheers

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Got that wrong, didn’t I

My problem is I can read reading, I can’t read writing ( glo-bowling )

Bob 😳

[Robert Scullion]

Jill

How do you blow a glo ?

Bob (<(

[Robert Scullion]

No further help, just to add to Dewi and Nigels comments. Was sure someone posted something recently regarding an outside gas/electric meter they printed wood effect onto vinyl. May be worth a search so you can see what it looked like

Bob 😮

[Robert Scullion]

Let that be a lesson to you. Don’t drink out of a dirty glass

Thanks Again

All the very best for 2005

Bob 😛

[Robert Scullion]

Marcella

Would appreciate it if you could give me that info.

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Many thanks ( go easy on the brandy tomorrow )

Bob (drink1)

[Robert Scullion]

Cherwells are another supplier youmay want to try. Sorry dont have thier number to hand

Bob 😮

[Robert Scullion]

What size is the toolbox?

Somebody has suggested your new photo is not that new, its supposedly your old school photo, 3rd year, 1969, is that true ?

:lol1:

[Robert Scullion]

Again thanks for the replies, as usual a mixed bag but good to get everyones thoughts.

I got some from europoint and have plyed about with it. See what you all mean regarding static etc.

Vic, you say you apply to bench to remove static, by this do you mean you apply to bench, remove, and then re apply to the vinyl?

Shane, spray water on bench, lay tape on it to discharge static, similar to Vics method ?

PS, Vic, if your local give ma a call, my coffee can’t be as bad as Dewis

Bob :yikes:

[Robert Scullion]

What was mr stickers wifes fancy man doing in your lounge dressed in a red suit ?

:yikes:

[Robert Scullion]

how hard am i?

Next you’ll be telling us you eat rock cakes and sleep with the light out. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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[Robert Scullion]

Ita only me being sarky

Looks great

Bob (<(

[Robert Scullion]

The work you guy’s continue to turn out are an inspiration to all us new signees.

Is it true she asked you if you wanted your hair cut round the back and you said no I’ll have it cut in the shop like everybody else. Boom Boom

Or the one where she says your hair needs cutting badly and you said I dont want it cut badly I want it cut right.

Jingle Bells

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Peter

Is it the ones listed in Cherwells catalogue as VK Plugs ? Have bought some to try, have to put up some relatively small signs, 1mtr x 600mm in 5mm foamex going onto brick, is it a case of drill the holes and bang in the plugs and thats it ?

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Sorry to but in lads but Rob can I ask for the details of the supplier for the road side signs, as in the picture.

Can you get the fixing channel on the rear of the sign and the u clamp brackets on thier own do you know?

I have two large poles outside my unit and this sort of fixing would be ideal for me to attach my own sign.

Cheers

Bob 😀

[Robert Scullion]

Try Beta Banners, 01875-616162

Good Luck

Bob 😀

[Robert Scullion]

Thanks again for the replies

Bob 😀

[Robert Scullion]

Thanks Guy’s

Just wasn’t sure regarding magnetics, like them to have a really nice neat finnish, not that great cutting curves.

Would I be better with a large pair of scissors

Bob 😀

[Robert Scullion]

Would this be similar to the vinyl used at car dealerships? The reason for asking is I have been aske by a local dealer if I can supply vinyl lettering for the cars on the forecourt, but it must be able to be removed easily and clean, leaving no trace.

Sorry to jump in but just thought it may be the same product, if not can anyone advise.

Cheers

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Cheers Carrie

Sometimes the simplest way is staring you in the face, great idea.

Thanks again

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Impact do a cheap start up software package called ARTCUT for £299+vat.

Click on thier link on the main page for contact details

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Peter

Speak to Dave Armstrong at Armour Glazing Films, 0121-544-4884, he installs Paint Shield paint protection film, I think all paint protection film is manufactured by 3m with the exception of Bekaert who supply thier own.

Bob, Prestige-Auto-Tints

[Robert Scullion]

Gareth

I am like you, fairly new to all this. I have found Europoint to be one of the best all round suppliers and its mostly Oracal vinyl, regarded by most on this site as the best all round vinyl.

They give a little discount if you let them know you are amember of UKSB.

Magnetic is approx £9.50 per mtr and can be bought by the metre, not in 10 mtrs like some other suppliers

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Phil

Phone me and I’ll go through whats legal and what’s not

Bob, Prestige-Auto-Tints, 0141-951-4006

[Robert Scullion]

Hi Tim

I am new to all this so forgive me if I,m wasting your time.

I bought Grafics 2 go from Impact and it has a section of corporate logos, it includes the post office logo, yellow text with a feint red line through the centre of it

Bob

[Robert Scullion]

Thanks for the advice and help. Weed and dry it is

Cheers

[Robert Scullion]

THANKS GUY’S

THE GENERAL OPINION SEEMS TO BE SIGNLAB. I AM ON THE LOOKOUT FOR A COPY, 2ND HAND PREFERABLY TO KEEP COSTS DOWN.

I HAVE A COPY OF COREL AND AS MOST OF YOU SAY ITS A BIT TRICKY ESPECIALLY FOR A NOVICE LIKE ME.

IF ANYONE HAS ANYTHING THEY MIGHT FEEL WOULD BE OF USE PLEASE LET ME KNOW

THANKS AGAIN