pictures of wall mounted perspex signs required please

[Dave & Rob Lowery]

Check UK Point of Sale site ont tinternet and you will find spacers on there.

[Cheryl Smith]

Ta Dave, been lookin on here for AGES cos I KNOW i saw some lovely ones SOMEWHERE!! :banghead: I’ll go look there………….

[Robert Lambie]

do you mean alluminium type locators?

[Cheryl Smith]

I am SO sorry, I have not made myself clear. I will try again. I was looking to make a clear perspex panel to which I stick on etched vinyl for the image, then this is fitted to the wall by locators(spacers), so it is a classy looking sign sitting proud of the wall. I did see some oval ones on here at one point….but as I have said before… :banghead:

[Robert Lambie]

there are allot of firms offering this but here is one of the uksg suppliers that do it. https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=22815
the above link can only be accessed by uksg members.

another supplier is http://www.ispitrade.com./

[Cheryl Smith]

thats great. What would really put the icing on the cake would be an example a finished sign using this method!
thank you for your help
Cheryl

[Robert Lambie]

ive seen several examples posted on the boards… this is a very old one i did. picture is pretty crap to be honest… even a bad angle and at a distance 😕 :lol1:

[Robert Lambie]

here is another i did. this ones a bit better picture but not glass etch. stained glass. 😕

[Cheryl Smith]

KEWL KEWL KEWL!!!
you’re my weel life herwwoow Robert!
fanx sooo much
Cx 😛
is that glass paint and that stick on lead you get from kraft shops?
how clever

[Andy Gorman]

That’s a great picture Rob. These things can be difficult to photograph.

Cheryl, when you inevitably get the job, order 4 spare fixings. I keep an A4 sample of this type of sign to show people. They always buy one when they see the sample! Excellent profit margins too.

[Mike Grant]

Here is one with a twist….

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[Robert Lambie]

couldn’t agree more Andy, i think i tried about 6 times to stop the flash being caught or my reflection 😕

glad i could help cheryl…
you will find part 1, 2 and 3 of a demo i did in the demo forum. heres a link to part 1…
https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=17583

[Cheryl Smith]

thank you again for all your help, and advice. Its nice to know there are other people I can ask now and get a pretty quick answer!!!
fanx scewws xx

[Robert Scullion]

Can I jump in here and a few questions, please.

I have a similar thing on the go at the moment and was wondering is it better done in toughehen glass ? If you do it in acrylic, is it actually acrylic or perspex (whats the main difference between the 2 products)

If doing them with acrylic or perspex can I get them anywhere pre-cut with the nice polished edge ?

The examples shown by you guys look terrific, really classy looking.

Bob

[Fred McLean]

perspex is acrylic!!!
its a brand name morphed into the actual product like HOOVER as in vacuum cleaner

F

[Dave & Rob Lowery]

Use Silicon acrylic. This has a green tinge to it so when the edges are flame polished, it looks like toughened glass but is a lot safer.

[Robert Lambie]

i would use glass every time when doing a stained glass or decorative panel like the one above. i find it looks better and doesn’t scratch as easy as acrylic… cleaning is better when needing done too…
i use laminate glass…. i prefer it. its thicker and doesn’t cost as much, so you get a nicer, thicker polished edge. i also prefer the way it which it breaks, (if it breaks) 😕

e.g.

laminate is two sheets of glass with a skin of clear film in between.
if broken it will shatter but stay in one bit because the film holds the whole thing together as one. so a panel like this would shatter but be left sitting in place on the wall…

toughened will shatter into millions of tiny bits of glass and fall to the floor.
basically a bit like a car windscreen… Ive never broken any but i hear it is loud when it breaks and obviously glass everywhere 🙄

obviously this is just glass characteristics when breaking…. the choice is yours 😀

benefits of toughened is its thinner, so is lighter.

when buying try buying direct from companies like solaglass… much cheaper than your local glass company as they will just buy it in from them anyway… very few local glaziers polish edges or work with toughened in house.
solaglass and the like normally have direct to the public or trade desks for cash sales etc

[Robert Lambie]

quote Mike Grant:

Here is one with a twist….

hi mike
is that acrylic or glass mate?

[Martin Cole]

Bit boring 🙁 but these are the last few I did.

All on polished 8mm acrylic.

As Andy says very difficult to get descent photos of these as you can see with the MHS one with my boat race in it.

The Three quays were done for a third party client for offices in Liverpool Street. The guy was the fussiest person I have ever ever ever had the pleasure to deal with. He insisted on white backings on the acrylic in case the wall got dirty behind the sign and hence would show through 😕 (Paitience of a saint required was an understatement)

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[Gert du Preez]

Do a lot of these.. I normally use Acrylic tubing, cut to length, and fix them to the wall with "Fisher plugs" and "Mirror Screws" These I get at the local hardare. The mirror screws are supplied with rubber grommets, so no cracking your morning’s labour! If you cant source acrylic tubing ( I frequently can’t) I simply cut them from perspex on the lazer. I cut rings from 3 / 5 mm Perspex, glue them together with Chloroform, and Presto!
For bigger signs, try your local Fitting and Turning shop. They’ll knock up Alu, Stainless, whatever. It costs, be warned!

[Cheryl Smith]

EXCELLENT!! ta x

[Mike Grant]

quote Robert Lambie:

quote Mike Grant:

Here is one with a twist….

hi mike
is that acrylic or glass mate?

It’s acrylic Rob, and quite large, about 4ft diameter.

[John Singh]

I used both perspex (5mm) and toughened glass (10mm) in one office. I prefer the look of the 10mm toughened glass though – its got real body and as Rob says you don’t have to worry about scratches etc

I make the holes a tad larger than the thread size as it gives you a bit of latitude when fixing

Also, tighten the studs gradually and equally (i.e. don’t fully tighten one then move on to the other)

[John Stevenson]

Hi Guys

great advice there and I have to do our first one of these shortly

Just one bit of information missing – where to buy Acrylic with polished edges?

John

[Lorraine Clinch]

I did my first one of these a couple of weeks ago, and immediately got another customer on the strength of it!
10mm acrylic, flame polished edges, text mirrored & on back face.

not a good picture, as has been said before, difficult to photograph, also as it’s over glass!

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[Cheryl Smith]

lovely collection to show potential customers, thanks.
I think you polish the edges of perspex with fine wet and dry paper-wet.
not done it myself tho yet, so would be nice to know from an expert…..Any takers?????

[Martin Cole]

quote Cheryl Smith:

I think you polish the edges of perspex with fine wet and dry paper-wet.

Cheryl you wont get the desired effect with just wet & dry.

Personally I lightly sand the edges first with w&d then use a polishing mop with a cutting compound (bit messy) but comes up a treat.

Best way is with a flame polisher as has been discussed, I went to sign Uk with the aim to buy one but never did.

I have also used a blow torch before now, lightly going along the edges.

Dave Rogers is your man, he was explaining in an earlier post about this topic.

As regards John’s post as where to buy them I’m not sure although thers are places that do supply them ”don’t think paticuarly cheap though” so would eat into your profit, again has been brought up on the boards somewhere.

I just keep a sheet of acrlyic in stock and get cut to size when needed.

Martin 😀

[Lorraine Clinch]

Hi Cheryl

Although these guys are not local to you, I am sure they would send out (or you could have collected) what you need. I buy all my specialised stuff from them….. http://www.signforce.co.uk
Tell them where you want the holes drilled, and they will supply the chrome spacers also. I paid £26 all in for the piece in the photo.

[Cheryl Smith]

thanks Martin and Lorraine n all of you for that matter :thumbup2:

[Robert Lambie]

ive used the w&d paper then followed by blow torch to polish the edges of letters. although it worked very well and the finish effect (edge lit letters on a lightbox) i do not think you can beat the finish on glass with polished edges for these type of panels.
glass has a "glass" edge finish and also a slight angled shamfered edge.
almost crystal looking edge to it.
as lorraine has said with her supplier… glass suppliers will also drill the holes exactley where you need them.

i honestly think, "long term" the glass beats the acrylic hands down.
acrylic scratches easer, doesnt clean as well and goes dull over time with chemicals cleaning it.
if you ever have to change the text on a panel like this you will see what i mean. acrilic leaves ghosting of the previous graphics.

[Andrew Boyle]

I prefer the half on half off SAA fixings for panels rather than the hole….don’t have pics at home
http://www.albion-manufacturing.com/dis … 45&sid=236
pic >> vinyl on back then block than another vinyl>>double sided but still sheen from most important viewing angle 😀 🙂

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[Robert Lambie]

I’m unsure the weight behind your sign Andrew but thought ide ask anyway… how/what did you use as a fixing on that particular type of ceiling mate?

[Andrew Boyle]

Pretty sad question Rob 😀 😀

took up a ceiling track just in case couldn’t get a decent fixing on ceiling…ended up a good grip without track…[and cleaner looking]

10mm silicon glass look acrylic with polished edges …..a 1500mm drop from ceiling…fixings from albion…the building was getting a visit by the first minister the same week and there was lots of little bits….with ever passer by giving a comment… "very Rangers" 1-1 Rangers or Hearts[job was in EDI](!) 🙂

http://www.albion-manufacturing.com/dis … 17&sid=136

[Robert Lambie]

:lol1: reason i asked was it looks like the old lath and plaster type ceiling and ceilings being one of my pet hates to fix into i thought this one would have presented some niggles. :lol1:

sign looks good none the less and i like the fixing… i have a series of these to do soon and im undecided what i am going to use. 😕

[Andrew Boyle]

It was lath and plaster 😀

I know people use different suppliers…….

I like to be able to get a variety of sizes of fixings appropriate to the size of the panel…and I also love the silicon glass look acrylic although it looks a little too green with a white backing or white text…..I also like to leave at least a 5mm gap around the whole edge when using a backing panel….. and let the fixings be part of the design rather than trying to hide them…..I’m going to get alife in 2007

😀 😀

[Robert Lambie]

quote Andrew Boyle:

I’m going to get alife in 2007

:lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

you and me both mate :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

now wiping spat drink from my keyboard 😳 🙁 :lol1:

[Cheryl Smith]

quote Andrew Boyle:

I prefer the half on half off SAA fixings for panels rather than the hole….don’t have pics at home

hey, they’d save some grief not getting the holes cut etc, very classy Andrew…Thanx