Nigel Pugh
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John I cannot reply to pm’s, but the answer to your question is our new stock is on the open sea right now, eta 2 weeks.
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Yes it does say it is a 3-5 yr outdoors but it is still a monomeric vinyl, if anyone asked me what vinyl to use for long term vehicle graphics then I would always suggest a polymeric vinyl.
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From their website it is a monomeric vinyl, not something I would suggest for vehicle graphics unless for short term graphics only, you would ideally use a 7yr polymeric vinyl for this type of work.
Nigel
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Zed if you need tech support with the Ultra then our tech dept will be the one to contact and we are only in Tamworth so not from from yourself.
Nigel
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Roland report no disruption at their manufacturing plant.
Nigel
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quote Andy_M:You need a more powerful laser, A local engineering firm near me had one of these installed last year…
And yes it’s a C02 laser!
Not sure if they would bother cutting di-bond though, but they do undertake cutting small quantity aluminium or steel shapes for signs etc
And……….it is a 5000w laser, if you look to buy a 200w C02 laser then expect to spend around 60k…can you imagine what that monster 5000w would cost ??
Pete do you want finance options 😀
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quote Peter Mindham:Hi Nigel
Figured that from our conversation earlier this week. Thought multiple passes might help but after the first one realised NO WAY!!Really engraves the colour off the di bond though and gives a classy finish.
Peter
LOL sometimes you do need to believe what the sales guy is telling you 😀
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We do a material called GEF that may suit, if you want a sample let me know.
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C02 lasers will not engrave or cut directly onto metal they are just not powerful / aggressive enough, you need at least a YAG laser for that.
A C02 laser will cut and engrave many different materials from acrylic, glass, wood, rubber, clothing materials, paper etc the list is huge.
Nigel
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Matt we are just waiting to confirm dates with James then Joe from here will email you.
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Looks great, just needs a few sofa’s , a fridge and a widescreen tv and you are good to go 😀
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quote George Elsmore:England grand slam is inevitable…nuff said 😎
As George said! We are just running in 2nd gear right now and gearing up for the world cup when we face proper opposition 😛
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True Peter if it is a OEM package then the drivers are for only that make of machine………but it does depend on what language the cutter works on, if HPGL then that covers a wide range of cutters.
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Flexi Starter 8, are you talking about Flexisign software or just a ripped off Chinese version, because any Flexisign package will have drivers for a whole host of cutters.
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What do you want to spend will define what you can have, an old version of Corel with a print driver or plugin will do, or go with a dedicated package such as Signlab or Flexi or Easysign, it does depend on what you want to be able to do and what budget you have.
Nowadays you can arrange a live online demo with some software packages, maybe worth you looking into.
Nigel
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quote Peter Normington:quote Nigel Pugh – Grafityp:Pink cast vinyl and matching laminate will do, just show your customer the pinks available from various suppliers, job done.
Nigel
why would you need to laminate a cast vinyl?
Peter
Just to afford some protection, at the end of the day the choice would be down to the customer and the signmaker whats best, of course as you know Peter any cast vinyl should be up to the job.
Nigel
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Pink cast vinyl and matching laminate will do, just show your customer the pinks available from various suppliers, job done.
Nigel
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quote Dave Rowland:Blimey, cheaper then Nigels’ lasers
How did I miss this, Dave you started asking about lasers back when I had hair lol………I suppose at Sign UK you will look again…and again…and again 😛
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quote Bob Clarkson:I know nothing much about these printers, but I do know rrp prices are something no one ever pays, and the rrp prices will vary, even though they technically can’t!
But as the saying goes, if something’s to good to be true, it probably is..
Bob I rarely reply on the forums and only do so if asked to or can help with a question, in this case and a rarity it is, the price is one of those were the deal is straight up and certainly goes against the grain.
Nigel
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I can confirm the original rrp was £29,999 + Vat for the AJ but of course you could have always done a deal for a better price maybe a grand or so lower but nothing like the price now doing the rounds.
As for the ex-demo machine if it is the one from us then all I can say today it is a buyers market…….
Nigel
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Typical Mr.Wilson, you drink our stand dry and still want extra, can you give me that IOU on paper that is worth the deal…..to answer your question it is for how long it lasts is a legit offer.
Nigel
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I can concur what John has said, I was gobsmacked when I heard this but it is true, no hidden extras or anything else stupid.
Nigel
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Shane dunno if this will work but it just came to me.
Between a rock and a hard place………you place the graphics on either side to represent that saying and then in the middle drop the flowers in and say something like "flowers soft even the hardest of places"
Yeah I know what does a supplier know……….so please don’t all laugh at me just whisper it to me come the next exhibition.
Nigel
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A used cutter that is still good for a few years and a decent software package that your needs won’t outgrow in six months then for a budget of £700 and this is including the vat is pushing it very hard, I wouldn’t even know what to offer or where to start.
Then again some have set up with a cheap Chinese machine and software and muddled through……..after weeks of asking on here about how to get the pc to talk to the cutter.
Personally set your budget if you can between £1,000 and £2,000 min all in and you will get a package that will see you through several years before hopefully you can expand.Nigel
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quote Jill Marie Welsh:Don’t feel bad.
I haven’t shaved for a week either.
Welcome from PA!
Love…..JillMr Rowlands will be all over your post Jill like a rash……….and when you do shave you will have another rash 😉
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Andy Gray was Sky Football, he and Keys built it up and brought in a host of ideas to transform football broadcasting, sad to see them both go but I do find it strange that they give a warning for what happened at the weekend and sack him for something that happened last year.
Can that kind of thing be done……..sacked in retrospect !!! Surely Sky have not followed the disciplinary code to the book.
Nigel
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Read about this earlier today and said to the wife that Africa seems hell bent on self destruction………….very sad for such a beautiful country.
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quote Chris Friggieri:Nigel what dates are there available after 14th & 15th feb a little bit more info if I have to come from Malta
Gill I reckon James Deacon just wants to get out of Valentines Day hence the 14th n 15th 😀
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Hi John,
Don’t know who you spoke to but the codes you need are FG600 or FG1200 and you can buy as little as 1mtr.
Nigel
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14th / 15th February
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We ran a two day course over Mon / Tues this week and four out six attendees had come from Scotland……….almost an invasion 😀
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The only way I can see this changing for the good is the way the Eurocrats KNOW won’t happen. The buying public stop buying all fish products for a week for a month or however long, if it happened they would have to take action and hopefully bring in common sense rules………..but by then the fishing community would be bankrupt and gone.
We like our comfortable lives to much nowadays (i’m guilty of it) like most others, if change has to happen it needs to come from the bottom up meaning the least well off has to carry the burden first before the corporations feel the heat…………it won’t happen and they KNOW it.
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Crash a plane or shoot it down over the London area disaster will ensue, as would any other highly populated area.
About time we went back to Adam n Eve pre the apple and start traveling in the buff 😮
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quote Nigel Hindley:You cannot go to India with western eyes.
India has a strange synchronicity. Ive never found anywhere in India to be disgusting, though I have never seen dead human bodies.
As a country its undergoing massive changes but will take considerable time for the changes to alter the way of thinking and how things work but not all the changes will be good.
These photos and writing are definitely painting only a side, a negative side at that, India is a beautiful country full of beautiful people.
Not so Nigel, if you have read all of it then the last paragraph would have shown you.
India is indeed “dirty”, “messy” and “smelly” but I have gotten more out of it than any other place I have been. If this wasn’t the case in my two months I wouldn’t have met so many expats who return often, or never leave. As the Taiwanese dancer Lin Huaimin said, whenever he is stuck for artistic inspiration, he goes back to India.
Nigel
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Not many things Colin, it probably is just me that I find it strange when people have a larger printer than cutter set up.
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Colin most rolls of vinyl i.e. plotter vinyl are now mainly 1220 max width, print media is a little different, from 762, 914, 1370, 1525 and even up to 3200 when you look at banner material etc.
Most suppliers would have slitting machines so you should always be able to get material slit to suit your needs when required.
Nigel
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I haven’t followed the news until the last few days so can I ask a question, has the UK sent / offered assistance ??
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No probs on the printer but surprised you took a 1400 wide cutter and not a 1600 wide…………don’t know if you have looked at other printers but the RS-640 and VS-640 from Roland could have been another option along with the JV33 from Mimaki.
Nigel
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Please don’t take this as promoting but GCC are bringing out a add on / optional extra for their cutters, basically it is just a front and back plate that you screw onto the cutter making a extended flat bed just for cutting around printed card, I cannot give any extra info as I’m now on holiday.
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quote Peter Normington:till recently
I knew it was chrimbo when people were queuing up overnight for stupid toys that were in fashion, like cabbage patch babies etc, doesnt seem to happen anymore though?Peter
All online now Peter as it is the superfast way of shopping…….’cept the snow has put paid to the deliveries and lo and behold people become angry even though they haven’t left their armchair !!!
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quote Hugh Potter:lol, for me it’s never xmas until i hear ‘fairy tale of new york’ on the radio, i managed to get to just yesterday morning before hearing it, love the song but it usually goes hand in hand with being totally skint (as Matty suggests!)
Hugh
Not forgetting the greats from Slade and Wizzard, then you do know it is a proper bo chrimbo
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quote Peter Normington:quote Nigel Pugh – Grafityp:quote Jill Marie Welsh:But you wouldn’t know that from looking at my hiney.
Rowlands will be along shortly I expect 🙂
nah he is a top man….
Peter
🙂 Peter very clever mucka
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quote Jill Marie Welsh:But you wouldn’t know that from looking at my hiney.
Rowlands will be along shortly I expect 🙂
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John I love it ……………. but as you are V Signs shouldn’t ‘ol Santa be giving the old two fingered salute 😉
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quote Matty Goodwin:Hi Anne
Your more than welcome to come and play with me…!
😳 😳
Lame, very very lame, go dunk yourself in the snow right now.
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Not me mine was Oct 1st, happy birthday t’other Nigel
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Congratulations Ian to you and your wife, I hope the little blighter and his sister grow up and make you proud 😀
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Maybe the up and down speed are set too high as in feeding the vinyl back and forth, other tracking problems are…….vinyl not uniformed wound on its core, pinch rollers not in correct position, pinch roller/s on one side are worn, grit roller bearings are worn on one side.
A Summa should track at least 10mtrs back and forth without issue.
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quote Jon Marshall:Mimaki – made in japan
Roland – made in china
Says it all 🙂
It may say it all but it is incorrect…………..Roland are in fact made in Japan !!
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I would have thought the Roland RS-640, VS range using cmyk x 2 or as a six colour, or the SolJet would be the machines to compare against the JV33 if you are looking for a fast printer.
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When you go for the 4×4 or six colour ink config then you do have a fast print and cut machine, glad to hear you are enjoying your new toy.
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Might aswell get in before Rowland chirps in.
Give me Jillbeans anyday over those three 😀
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Chris you need to ask how would it be cleaned to make sure whatever material you use the inks will be steadfast.
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Out of interest Neil, what ink configuration did you go for ?
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quote Robert Lambie:If Debbie can join us the past 3 years, nigel can… in fact, all of grafityp can! :lol1: either that or us lot will gate crash your lots night out! 😉 :lol1: :lol1:
Rob wee man, you have seen Deb on the day after the night out 😮
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quote Peter Mindham:quote Nigel Pugh – Grafityp:quote Nancy Wannous:I dunno what you guys trying to say Roll how I’m little slow I should come for good You got room for me Nik ??
Roll On basically means “can’t wait” for Sign UK to come around, personally I would rather it not happen because all I seem to meet are all the p**s heads from here lol
See you next year folks………..be sure to stop by for a beer 😉
Its your turn to join us for a beer or two on ou night out Nigel.
😀
Peter
Yeah I know Pete but my problem is I probably wouldn’t make it to the show next day 🙂
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quote Dave Rowland:i think she mean 🙄
Oh ok Dave…………..no need to get defensive lol
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quote Nancy Wannous:I dunno what you guys trying to say Roll how I’m little slow I should come for good You got room for me Nik ??
Roll On basically means "can’t wait" for Sign UK to come around, personally I would rather it not happen because all I seem to meet are all the p**s heads from here lol
See you next year folks………..be sure to stop by for a beer 😉
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I can understand both sides of the argument I read the same kind of posts when some "cowboy sign company" are selling for xxx price on fleabay and the customer you quoted a week ago has just pointed that fact out to you, that customer has done a little bit of research and may take a gamble on the fleabay company supplying the right goods, not all sellers are bad right.
I agree with Shane’s sentiments it is always useful to have a native supplier when things go wrong so the problem can be rectified hopefully asap, same time I can see Andy’s point because afterall you all are in business for one main thing………costs low profits high and with a bit of luck and sense you make a decent living.
A lot of you have heard of the SignPal range of vinyl cutters and I know many still class them as a cheap import and so cannot be that good, just a bearing on this post, only last week I supplied a customer with their third cutter to work alongside the other two, all SignPal and all replaced Roland machines………in hindsight if you check everything out beforehand then sure you can avoid the many pitfalls and import goods a lot cheaper from China.
The downside to this for the sign industry is the UK will business wise become more sterile and you will need to start exporting your signs because there will be less businesses in the UK needing them !
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quote Dave Rowland:W:oW, Cheryl stop tellin lies it really is ur second business … what you doing next tuesday?
Bloody hell Dave, one minute you are going on about Jill’s back door and now you are hitting on a newly married woman………..I like your game 😀
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If it comes with a bulk ink system then surely you will be using 3rd party inks………Roland will invalidate the warranty, I would check this with the supplier before you commit.
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Got tickets today for next June at the LG Arena, NEC. Also seeing Lee Evans at the NIA in Sept.
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Roland no longer supply the VP model, the choice is now the SPi and the VS models, the latter been the printer offering white and metallic ink options if required.
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I have grown up with Staffies, pedigree and crosses and none have been a problem, had a Staffie crossed with an Alsation and she was a right softy.
Poor owners generally lead to poor behaving dogs.
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Largest desktop I have supplied is a 880mm, after that they jump to 1000mm plus and normally come with stands and if you think about it a desk with a 900mm laminator sitting on it would take up more space than one on a stand.
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Lots and lots and lots of warm soapy water, they will release eventually.
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Cheap n easy is to get some soundbites from dirt bike races and pump it out, the ears will lead the curious 🙂 just make sure the rest of your stand is good enough to draw them in for the kill 🙂
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Watched a program the other week about renovating a old ally caravan, it sounds as if the ally needs grinding back and polishing back up as they had to with the caravan before adhering a new name to it.
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Rob well it is in the middle of a high tech business park and nothing else apart from the motorway, I will though if I have won tonight’s euro hold a party their 😀
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Gary the Newcastle man in charge wouldn’t let us take the printer back down the stairs…….H&S and all that, but we could carry it up another flight and take it down thru the car park…….as in push it down the four levels of car park and ramps, except the the car park was rough concrete and we ended up having to carry the damn thing down four levels (hot)
Now Ibrox was totally the opposite, easy access and a lift that we could fit the printer in 😀 and the best was when things got quiet a wonderful lady called Jean who works for Rangers gave us a full tour of the ground, found out later from a Rangers fan at our hotel we got taken to parts of the ground that you don’t get to see when you pay for a tour………a fantastic ground and history that I was lucky to see.
Thanks to all those who came to say hello and soz Mr.Wilson but our hotel was in the middle of nowhere and so we couldn’t get to go out in Glasgow, but the Dakota hotel is a great place to stay for anyone who is interested.
Nigel
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yes mucka because the show doesn’t finish till 8pm, also there on Wednesday too.
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Don’t have ya number on my mobile………thankfully lol, if I can I will post here Tues or Weds where we are staying so you can pay the bar bill 😉
P.S. Call you Wednesday
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Look forward to seeing you Gary, I will be the bald bloke looking totally confused 😛
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Yes Rob, travel up on Wednesday should hit Glasgow about midday then nowt to do till Thursday………don’t know where we are staying till tomorrow as my sidekick ADAM WEBB has forgot the hotel we have booked into 🙄
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Steve when we have taken SP-300’s in as p/x deals they generally go back out for £3,300 to £4,000 depending on age and history, I would with your machine start off at £3,000 and settle for £3,500 if you get it.
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So did you win the game then Will ?
No sympathy for the injury though, I bust my scaphoid a few years back and ended up having a bone graft screwed in, the bone was from the NHS bone bank 😮 All of a sudden been a busted leftie I had to learn how to do everything right handed……….the toliet dept was not happy at first because it was a little hit n miss 😳
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Happy Birthday Peter 😀
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Caroline if you have the serial number of the printer then that would help if us suppliers get offered a printer as a cheap buy or part exchange.
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I suppose you have to ask yourself if you bought a £200 cutter off fleabay and then give yourself a company name then contact a supplier for materials how are we to know if you are a fly by night cheap as chips cowboy or a genuine signmaker.
I guess trading with a supplier for a few years would prove it and at the same time afford you lower prices. Ask yourself this when you have ordered materials from a supplier when have you had to prove that you are a genuine signmaker who as the kit to make signs rather than someone who just wants some sticky back plastic………..
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Hop Scotch…………..and I agree with Terry, nice pic Jill 😀
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To go with the roof and the white fence I would paint the main body White and the panels Green………….if not then a kind of as the sun if half setting Orange.
Jill with a back door like that I’m sure Mr Rowland will add his own kind of spin on it…………
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The people who will be fitting the graphics are they vinyl experienced, just asking because if they are not then how will bubble free vinyl cheap or not be an aid to them.
There are plenty of mid term vinyls available now which should all go down very easy if you know what you are doing, I would ask if they know what a squeegee is then decide what vinyl to use 😉
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Sandy, SignPal is a OEM version of FlexiSign so you should be able to find plenty of tutorials for Flexi on the web that will relate to SignPal. If you can let me know what level of SignPal you are using then I can send you the comparison chart showing what you get with each level.
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quote Mike Grant:The word “monopoly” springs to mind. 🙄
Baggsy Mayfair & Park Lane 😀
Seriously though it does narrow down the options for anyone who wants to compare laser engravers and tool engravers and who they can go to when considering a purchase/outlay for said equipment.
The next year or so will be interesting in marketing terms.
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From what I have heard today would make you correct Mike and Trotec do appear to have taken over Identify.
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Excuse me if I’m wrong, but you can graffiti laminates whether from a roll or liquid laminate, what you are after is a film that will reject most forms of graffiti such as biro, marker pens, spray paint etc.
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Dave ask him if he knows someone who might be interested in 400 6ft x 2ft banners that you happen to have lying around for a certain Rev.
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Bob I got asked for a quote the other week for a Summa S Class Tangential cutter, now we are talking £6k or more for said machine, now in my own opinion unless you are after cutting 4mm lower case sans serif then why spend so much.
As mentioned before a ‘lesser cutter’ depends what you class as that, will do just the same job and cost you 5k less at least. Most machines run the same/ similar servo motors, have control panels to set speed, pressure, offset, optical eye etc.
Nigel
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Neil pm me your email addy, I have some that I will be able to send over tomorrow morningish.
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Take your pick, most cutters from £800 plus offer a full lcd control panel, most operate with servo motors, have optical eye for contour cutting and most all come with a print driver / plugin to allow you to cut from you existing software along with free software with the cutter.
You will also find 1yr, 2yr and 3yr warranties on various machines just depends what model you go for.
Cutters now days in the price bracket of £800 – £2000 are so much alike when you get past the look and the badge on the front, underneath they are using pretty much like for like parts.
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Nice to meet you Ben, I don’t think I have ever replied to a ‘say hello’ post before but in this case I will, so welcome to the boards.
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Forced to wear an England shirt………….simple and effective………unless they are English tourists then put them in a Scotland shirt and so forth.
So how many England shirts can I put you down for 😀
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I have read too many stories from that site and they all crease me up, if you haven’t already checked out some of the other stories then I would urge you to do so 😀
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Matty just emither me a date when you have a day spare……short tour then beer n pool 😀
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Beers it will be then…………….budda probably closer to the truth but hey after 43 years of eating what do you expect 🙂
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Matty if I was the bald bloke with glasses built like an adonis then sure it was me lol
You should have opened yer gob I would have put the kettle on 🙂
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If using Siser textile material then I would suggest 155 as your temp and press for 15 – 20 seconds, one rule if it is a tricky application is to extend the pressing time and not raise the temp. Once you get around 170 plus you are reaching the kind of temp that can alter the structure of the textile vinyl and will cause you problems.
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I would have thought a vast amount of ‘self adhesive’ vinyls would be good enough for this job. Don’t you think either heat settings or the amount of ink put down will and can effect the media you are using.
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If the headstone is a gloss marble stone then I would think it would be done by laser engraving, the quality you can get nowadays from a laser compared to 5 to 10 years back is astounding.
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quote Matty Goodwin:Nigel…..WHAT!!!
My gloves love vinyl, I love vinyl, only the two shall ever meet!
How dare you suggest my gloves are used for anything else!!
(To Kill a Mocking Bird)
Up the Wolves!!
Matt
Take ya gloves off to answer your phone, scratch ya ass etc, and yes UP the Wolves, the mightiest team in the world 😀
