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Also in Devon and we use Plastexe in Exeter

https://www.plastexe.co.uk/

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Printing direct to ply gives really good results. I’ve printed on all sorts of ply and never had any problems. Just go to your local timber yard. If your printing light colours and dont want the wood grain to be visable print white underneath with a bit of choke…… :thumbsup:

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Papergraphics do backlit film, i cant remember what its called but i used to print on it when i had my Latex…… :thumbsup:

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All Print Supplies do a range of vinyl with glitter……. :thumbsup:

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Morning Mariusz,

If it was me before you try and source some anti static bars buy some antistatic sheets from Perspex they do a foamex called Palfoam which is an antistatic sheet. Id give Fraser a call about your antistatic bars thats where i bought mine. Hope you sort this out…cheers

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Is there anti static bars on the machine? if there are turn them off that might help. Or it could possibly be the substrate i used to buy from a certain supplier and even though they said the substrate was uv approved it gave these results. I started to buy from perspex and they supply an antistatic and uv board approved in foamex and correx.

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Is this the first time you’ve printed on this substrate?

Ive had this problem before Could be a couple of things, possibly static? or not an approved uv substrate.

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Hi Peter ive got one of these take up systems on my VP 540 and its been going strong for about 5 years now…..

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Why Wrap?…just buy white and print direct…..

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quote James Sahota:

Hi Steff,

Having owned one of these machines the KX7 – 3m x 2.5m fixed flatbed I can honestly say it wasn’t the best machine to go for at all. The quality wasn’t bad but as Jamie mentions there are issues with it, and we found we were fighting a lot with it.

The guys at InkTec will tell you everything you want to hear but when things go wrong this is where things change.

It this is your first flatbed purchase I would stick with a machine that doesn’t require manual purges and wiping all the time, go for a machine that does all of this its self.

I can honestly say the Scitex FB700 we had which has now been replaced was the best machine ever, self-cleaning very little downtime and if it was down the engineers would arrive to site with every part they might need.

I would give Loic @ Josero a call the new AGFA he has it his place is simply stunning and for the near the same money the quality is stunning, I couldn’t believe how good it was when he gave me a demo a few weeks ago. Loic has also been selling machines for 25+ years, his one of those guys who will treat your business like his own and give you the best kit possible and if he feels something isn’t right for you he would rather lose a sale then sell you something naff!

If you can get over to his place and have a demo I would recommend this.

Hope this helps

I used to run a Jetrix Kx7 in a previous employment and never had any issues with it, it was a great machine very little down time and performing a manual purge was very quick and not very often. Print quality was excellent adhesion on substrates was good I printed on plastics/glass/mirrors/wood etc….. would highly recommend……

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Yes it is a pain, i used to work at a printers and we had a gullotine, but you still had to trim two sides head lay and side lay to knock them up into the gullotine ……..as far as i know the only way is a cnc cutter…

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Ive had this problem before, it was the substrate in my case i bought a scrim from another supplier and he assured me it was Latex approved but it printed terribly on my latex, id normally buy from Papergraphics but i think they where low on stock…..

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Thats the same profile i use on my vp-540 when i print posters i use Metamark MD PP210 which is a semi gloss 210gsm poster paper and get good results. I find that i cant use the take up roll as the prints come off wet so i leave them to dry overnight and trim in the morning….

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I’ve printed and fitted a lot of contravision and never laminated it, never had any issues with water. I can think of one job that was a very large shop front which is subject to lots of rain etc and still looks as good as the day i fitted it. Also if you allow for an overlaminate it could make the job too expensive…..

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I thought id never say this after printing on a HP latex L26500 for the past 7 years, but ive recently relocated and am now printing on a Roland VP-540 and if it was my money id stick with the Roland only reason for me would the print is so much more vibrant than the Latex, yes i know all the issues about degassing but if you plan ahead not really a problem…….

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Hi Conor, Yes i laminate wrap vinyl just make sure the laminator is on cold and not to much tension never had any problems….. :thumbsup:

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Try: https://windowfilm.co.uk/?gclid=CM2V-5L … 7QodpLoP8A

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Ive got an Easymount laminator which i would highly recommend……. :thumbsup:

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Ive also never had any issues printing on my Latex L26500 its 6 years old now and still going strong. I defiantly recommend a HP latex…….. :thumbsup:

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Papergraphics, printed on my latex L26500……. :thumbsup:

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Try Signgeer, I’ve got a sample roll which I’ve never used i think its quite expensive :thumbsup:

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Do you know the name of the previous Sign writer? you never know i might know them….. :thumbsup:

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No mate i work for a company in Caterham Surrey about half an hour drive from Crawley. And yes I’ve seen these trucks about….any luck with the colour yet?:thumbsup:

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I’m in Crawley so not to far …… :thumbsup:

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Hi Simon slightly off subject are you based in West Sussex?

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Hi Myles,

Ive printed loads of backlit and not seen this problem, I’m running Onyx and theres a feature in which you can tell the printer to run high ink level (i would probably turn this feature off when running such a solid colour) . Id say the pass rate is fine if you run any higher the substrate could become saturated. Could be the substrate, maybe try running a printhead clean…..Andy

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What colour profile did you use?

What rip are you running?

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Good luck, take a spare set of graphics just in case…… :thumbsup:

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FUNNY….. :smiles: :smiles:

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Nice colour change Peter….

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Welcome Mark, i also originally came from a commercial print background……oh and good old PITSTOP a life saver :thumbsup:

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Hi Daniel it all depends as an example:

Substrate = 1370mm

Wall = 2430mm x 5860mm

so split the wall in 5 drops off 1172mm each

To be honest id go for as wide as you can less drops to apply dosent really make it and easier if the drops are narrower…. :thumbsup:

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Maybe a vinyl on the shutter……

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Never used Corel Draw so cant comment, I’ve always used Adobe Creative Suite as i originally come from a litho print background, in all the years I’ve been in this trade I’ve only know one of my customers thats use Corel Draw. And i think most colleges/art school would teach in Adobe…..

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Hi Dan,

Ive tried printing on my latex with not very good results, i had to print at a very high pass rate 20pb to get half a decent result, which slowed the printer down. Im actually printing another wallpaper job on Metamark as i type but this time on my uv flatbed and getting much better results and a lot quicker. I havent got a solvent printer so cant say how well it will print, when you speak to Metamark make sure they send you the same batch code so that the emboss is the same…… :thumbsup:

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Don’t buy any images until youre customer has approved the artwork, its industry standard to leave the water marks on and have a lores image for a proof. You’d be surprised how often customers will change there minds on images so wait until its all been approved……

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Hi Dan,

Sorry whats youre question?…….Andy

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Hi Ben,

Like the images, i also have been using Metamark Wa. I noticed your using a heat gun in the first pic on the overlap any reasons why?….cheers mate

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Give Graham @ paper graphics a call……..

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Thanks Phil…yes i do like to keep a clean workshop..always getting the hoover out.. :thumbsup:

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These as well…..

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First application with Metamark MD WA, thanks chaps for the recomendation…….. :thumbsup:

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Hi Lee have you recently changed you’re laminate? looking at the pics id say it looks like you’re not using a uv compatible laminate and the laminate you are using is not adhering to the ink. Does the laminate pull off the board where theres no ink?

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I originally come from a print background litho and digital, and have been involved in signage/large format for the last 6 years. Ive had lots of dealings with designers and yes they can be very arty farty when it comes to designing. Id call myself an artworker give me a brief and images etc and ill put something together that looks good. Most designers have been to art college and get carried away with designs with a large bill as well. We always charge for design normally about £20 for 30 mins. Its amazing when you ask you’re customers if they’ve got artwork and they answer…."no buts its not much just a couple of pics and some type". I think they think I’ve got a magic artwork button and its suddenly appears……

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Interesting….ive got two 5m walls to wrap this week, i normally apply an A3ish size substrate and leave for a couple of days to check adhesion, but this time ill use the ipa and water cleaning method as well just in case…..

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PERFECT CHEERS….. :thumbsup:

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Nice Work….i like this first barber shop image…. :thumbsup:

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I use a lot of anti Graffiti lam, yes its very thin the only thing id say is it smells. You can also use it as a dry wipe lam as its basically the same thing….. :thumbsup:

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You can buy levels that can clamp to the back of a charge, I’ve just bought one with a tripod….."Stanley CLLI" :thumbsup:

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Cheers David…..got samples coming in today…. :thumbsup:

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Thanks Dave and Ewan….im going to get a sample of "Metamark MD-WA" who supplies this….cheers Andy

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When i first bought my Hp Latex i got 5 free rolls of substrate, only 5m of each i remember getting:

HP Air Release
HP Contravision
HP Backlit Polyester
HP Heavy Textile Banner
HP PVC Wall Paper

Only having 5m of each didn’t really allow me to be able to use them on live jobs. So when a job came in id source a alternative and also ran a test on the HP substrate and to be honest didn’t really see any difference in print quality etc. So personally i dont use any HP substrate which is a lot dearer than most other substrates.

Andy

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Always had mine on off, and have also been advised by engineers to keep it off….. :thumbsup:

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Thanks George, i dont need these at the mo but who knows i might in the future, downloaded and stuck in my logos folder…. :thumbsup:

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Good Luck…… :thumbsup:

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Ive always wondered how these are done? how do you get the image around the edges?……

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Thanks Chaps…… :thumbsup:

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Wouldn’t risk it if it was me……

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I personally would never use a monomeric laminate for external use, but have know a monomeric lam to shrink say 3-5mm over 6 months so 30-40mm is not expectable……Good Luck Jason

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Ive never used this laminate, even though they state its a 3 year laminate is it a Polymeric or Monomeric lam? If its a monomeric laminate id say its unfair to call it a 3 year laminate……

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I use ‘Remo One’ from Essentra its a double sided adhesive foam tape with an aggressive permanent adhesive on one side and an removable adhesive on the other side…..

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Ive had my Latex for 6 years now, never had a solvent printer so i cant really compare. But it seems crazy to me to have to hang outgas graphics after they had been printed. I print laminate/finish as soon as they come of the machine never had any problems with inks fading or scratching…… :thumbsup:

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Ive never laminated contravision, but do know others that do. I print on a Latex and have never had any problems, some of the contravison I’ve printed and installed is still up looking vibrant after 3 years…. :thumbsup:

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Some ink manufactures now put primers in there inks such as Inctec…..

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Looks good, did you leave an overlap on the joins? or did you butt fit the joins?………ive done both on the graphics that I’ve fitted but i wondered what most others do?…… :thumbsup:

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Leave cut vinyl in the fridge overnight, the vinyl shrinks and you’ll be able to see the outline better……

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James i agree the only time I’ve ever used adhesion promoters is on glass and perspex……… :thumbsup:

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Blimey you have to use an adhesion promoter on correx board is that normal for an Arizona?

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I use Bonaid for my Jetrix Kx7 available from INCTEC……

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Antalis sell "2 piece Corrugated Wrap & Pad" 8×4 item No: 47024 thats what i would use….. :thumbsup:

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INCLUDING ME…………….. :tongue:

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Find someone local to them, get a trade price and stick 20% on…..theres lots of signage companies down south… :thumbsup:

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Take a small piece of vinyl and test an internal painted wall before cutting and trying to apply a decal…….

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http://www.easystands.com

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Easystands….. :thumbsup:

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Tricky….perhaps try a canvas or Textile profile worth a try…….

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If it was me try the HP PVC-free Wall paper 8pass, get the machine running as it prints do a rub test make sure the inks drying ok if all looks ok you should be ok. Ive never had any heat issues as the job gets running normally if all starts ok it should all be ok….hope this helps….let me know how you get on…… :thumbsup:

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As a starting point look in your list of colour profiles and see if theres anything similar. What colour profiles have you got?

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My dream also….Torbay would be for me…..any jobs going???? :thumbsup:

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Ask for a colour profile from the manufacture. What rip are you running?…..

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Ive never used them, just use the mainbar….

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Get an AppleMac…….. :tongue:

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OK….ive got a Summa S2D160…..the problem i was having was the opos was hovering over the square and the light not picking it up so i adjusted a setting on the Summa control panel:

Go to: settings
Go to:OPOS
Go to:Calibrate media (opos)
Go to:set
Go to:Value (the default should be 30)….i increased this value to 40….this did the trick

Hope this works
Cheers
Andy

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Do you mean backlit substrate?

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What substrate are you cutting? i had this the other day whilst trying to print on a clear cling……but managed to sort it

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Ive got a Summa S2D160 as far as I’m aware the D stands for drag knife, dont think I’ve got a tangential option on my cutter wish i had though…….. 🙁

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Ive used these before………. :thumbsup:
http://www.ultimadisplays.co.uk/Wedge/? … 0&subTab=1

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Ive got a Jetrix KX7 never printed on bottles but i might be able to help………

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Hi Rich, Avery is my vinyl of choice, I’ve not used 3m due to the fact thats its so expensive but have heard its very good, not had any problems with Avery always very tricky wrapping in the cold something i avoid and yes post heat is very important……

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quote Pane Talev:

Thanks David.

Andy, I didn’t understand well. Is Solvoprint PVC the name for the mesh? What is the name of the tape are you using?

Cheers

Solvoprint PVC is the name of the mesh which i buy from Neschen, the tape i buy from Antalis, which is called Orabond (item No: 96370, 50mm x 50m) which has an excellent resistance to uv light, solvents and plasticiser. 160c long term temperature resistance….. :thumbsup:

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I’ve printed and finished loads of mesh banners which have been printed on Solvoprint PVC from Neschen, hem and eyelet as normal no problem at all really nice to work with just don’t forget to remove the liner…….. :thumbsup:

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Hi John give Graham @ Papergraphics a call he will be able to help, i find colourbyte expensive…… :thumbsup:

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quote Robert Lambie:

in my view, for a general vinyl applicator doing fleet graphics etc i much prefer the more cost effective option such as the red wrapcut, but for wrapping etc then the knifeless tape has the edge as its a softer tape to manipulate on curves etc.

I agree depending on the job, i use both wrap cut and knifeless tape, I get my wrap cut from MDP supplies…… :thumbsup:

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quote Myles Brewer:

thanks for that Andy, I was actually just having a quick look round & it looks like you can pick up a fairly new (2-3 year old) L26500 now for between 4-6k which seems pretty decent. I know it would mean getting a separate cutter but I don’t really have an issue with that.
Can I ask about print quality/colour matching & print durability comparisons between say the VS540i & L26500?

Hi Myles i can’t comment about the VS540i as I’ve never used one or seen anything printed on it. The L26500 print quality is very good prints black nice and dense and I’ve never had any issues with colour matching print durability is very good i can print and finish straight away no need to out gas or wait for any drying. I used to use my latex to print on most substrates scrim banners, pop ups, pull ups, soft signage, canvas’s vinyls for mounting and never really had any problems. Ive now got a Flatbed Jetrix KX7 so no more mounting. :thumbsup:

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Hi James this dosent answer your question but have you thought about a Jetrix KX7?

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Ive also got a HP Latex L26500 had it for about 5 years and its been a great machine, i print a lot of scrim banners and yes over a long area the substrate does shrink a bit say 5-10mm but over a 2-3m length due to the heat but i just cut to the edge and not the trim marks. The third generation latex runs a lot cooler which will prevent shrinkage, but to be honest no ones going to notice over the length. So for me Latex all day long……. :thumbsup:

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Be careful you might find that thats thickness wont fit in the mechanism.

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Just a bit of an update, we bought a Jetrix KX7 had it now for about 6 months, oh and what a great machine, we bought this machine to mainly print on normal substrates acm, correx, forex but i found myself printing on all sorts of items including toilet seats, door knobs, mirrors, perspex, ikea tables, ikea folders. Inctec the manufactures service is very good as well, colour and adhesion is also very good no issues with picking on edges etc, so if youre looking for a flatbed this is a great machine…….. :thumbup2:

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quote James Sahota:

Having experience with both machines and recently doing a job for the London Underground and being told they preferred the massive 3m x 2m boards printed on the HP FB700 rather than the Jetrix that a partner company of ours done for us was positive feedback for the HP – The client stated the prints looked more alive and vibrant with the prints that came of the FB700.

The Jetrix is a great machine in my opinion and I know a few people using it a couple of issues that they all complain about its;

1. The maintenance on the machine – You have to purge the heads a few times a day and give them a good old clean to ensure all nozzle are firing. – The FB on the other hand does its own cleans several times during the day and does one major clean during the evening – You really don’t have to do anything with this up until the time it flashes for its 80 hour clean which even then you need some lint free cloths, swabs and some grease which is all supplied – Follow the step by step instructions and your away.

You can leave the FB standing for a week and come back to it load a sheet and it will print perfectly each and every time. Maintenance on this machine is minimal compared to the jetrix

2. Adhesion of ink – The FB amazes me you can literally put any material through it and the ink will stick like SH*T no messing around with primers or anything like that – I know my friends who run the jetrix have to apply a sealer to the edges of ACM before printing as the ink just comes off.

3. Have a open flatbed like the jetrix means you need to ensure your environment is dust free where as the FB prints in the enclosed section of the machine meaning you can load a sheet give it a blow down with a air gun and you know the dust is off and the area being feed is in the enclosed section

You mention the maintenance agreement which I agree at 10k is a massive amount especially as you may not end up using it…This is exactly what I thought so decided not to take it in my second year until such point where I was printing a time sensitive order worth around 25k to us and the machine developed a fault…I thought I knew what the fault was and decided to order some parts – 5k worth of parts later and still no fix….By this time the order needs to go out and being a corporate client with a set installation date I had no choice but to sub this out to someone else….Lesson learnt I now have a maintenance agreement in place….I would push HP to give you 2 years if you decide to go down this route.

The maintenance on these machines is done by art systems and I have to say if you log a fault you get a service call the next day from there engineer and the engineer will arrive with every single part he thinks he may need, if the parts are not in stock they are sent to your location over night from europe….Every issue we have reported to Artsystems has been dealt and fixed the next day without fail meaning down time is always a minimum….Not sure how this compares to jetrix.

The white ink is a load of bull crap this machine prints white very well… No issues what so ever.

UV gloss banding can be seen on some of the darker colours if your pushing this machine at the fastest speeds, bidirectional always gets rid of that….Also one last thing to add the roll to roll and the take up reel on the FB works very well, I’ve regularly printed 50m rolls at 2.5m width without issue.

I hope this helps guys!

Hi James,

Thanks for your reply, what sort of work do you put through your FB700? a lot of our work is very different one minute we could be printing on a door and then the next job could be on slate, the resellers we have spoken to have given us the impression that the FB700/750 is more for large volume jobs for e.g. 200 A1’s would you say this is correct?….thanks again for you’re help James…. :thumbup2: