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I haven’t read every post on this thread but it is interesting to scan over. It’s understandable consumers have no idea of the wastage in fishing and many other ‘industries’. Specifically regarding fishing…my brother was a trawler skipper/owner for many years until the ‘rules’ forced him out. He could only go to sea so many days a year and only ‘land’ fish of a specified size or over. He was disgusted at the waste and destruction of fish stocks realised because of the stupid legislation. He took part in numerous demonstrations (peaceful ones such as a huge rally of trawlers some years ago in Brixham) but all to no avail.

The beaurocrats (sp) decided to increase the size of the net mesh to stop the smaller fish getting trapped. They wouldn’t listen to the fishermen who told them it wouldn’t make any difference because once the ‘end’ of the net was full the small ones would still be caught up…….ergo there’s still huge wastage…..and it’s a disgrace!

Hopefully one day the ‘rule makers’ will see sense…..we live in hope… 🙄

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Thanks Q…looks like it is available over here…..just going to ring the suppliers…though I’m hoping Cheryl’s suggestion will work as they only do 10 yards minimum and that’s overkill for a few decals

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Cheryl…you’re a genius…banner material should do it..(I hope 😀 )

Big thanks for the suggestion…it’s for a mate who is endurance racing and I wanted to try and help him out.

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Hi Paul…you might want to try aerosol brake cleaner on that original curtain. It degreases and evaporates leaving no residue….but if you do use it try it on a ‘hiden’ area first just in case there’s a reaction though I’ve used it on foamex and vinyl with no ill effects.

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Craig…I’ve been doing graphics etc for a custom spray shop for a few months now and all my print is non laminated eco-sol. The paint shop thinks the stuff is the dogs’ danglies and the only problem…note single decal problem… from dozens of prints done was his fault (he admitted it was his fault) and due to poor application. And yes he laquers all the stuff I send him.

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Very nice work….fancy doing my newly acquired Smart Brabus????? :lol1:

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Many thanks Peter…

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What liquid lam do you use Peter?

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quote Robert Lambie:

quote Roger Clements:

but with your help/advice and finding Martins tip on using Mr Sheene

and what about that Mr Sheen…. apparently he’s Polish too! 😮 😉

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Hmmm ‘Polish’?….cheap labour then… :lol1:

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quote Roger Clements:

quote Cheryl Smith:

quote Martin:

…hes an estate agent!

That explains everything….. (:) (:) (:) him

….take it you have never seen the movie ‘The Fisher King’? Roger? 😉

Good memory Nigel….though I don’t think Cheryl is a psychotic depressed murderer… 🙄 :lol1:

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Black jacks and fruit salad chews……4 for 1d….mmmmm after school treat…

Park Drive ciggies in packets of 5…..

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You guys are great……it looks like the temperature drop(outside/workshop not machine temps) has done for me this time then…..but with your help/advice and finding Martins tip on using Mr Sheene I’m hoping (fingers crossed) that this is now a thing of the past….. :thanks2:

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Martin,

Just read your tip on using Mr Sheene and wish I’d read it before…….I’ve recently dumped two 2 mtr banners because of scratching while hemming and this has solved the problems…….

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Many thanks for the replies folks…..I’m hoping having turned the temps up a fair few degrees to the mid 40’s will have done the trick.

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£2 a week in 1969 as an RAF apprentice….that lasted 12 months until I got out into the big wide world…..join the forces and see the world…pah!!! they sent me to a base 40 miles from home :banghead: still my pay went up to £16 a week so it wasn’t all bad…..then came petrol rationing and marriage so effectively I took a pay cut…. 🙄 no phone at home….one aga cooker in rented accomodation to heat the whole place….ice on the windows on winter mornings….rented TV because they were too expensive to buy….dented tins and broken biscuits from the local store because they were cheaper….beans or cheese on toast for dinner……couldn’t afford daily newspapers…..hitching a lift to work because cars were too expensive and I sold the motorbike to buy a washing machine….but the North Cornwall coast and beaches were 5 minutes walk away so it made up for most things beng crap…….Ohh happy days.. :lol1:

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Welcome Stuart…..like has already been said it’s a font of knowledge here and nice helpful folks to go with it. I would second the comments on getting Phils book, it is a mine of very useful information. Likewise I echo the comments regarding plotters…..yes there’s loads out there but buy the best you can afford and stay well clear of cheap chinese stuff…..

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quote Cheryl Smith:

quote Martin:

…hes an estate agent!

That explains everything….. (:) (:) (:) him

[Roger Clements]

Thanks for the replies…Glenn it was laid flat out on the work bench with the building temp around 15-20 degrees centigrade. I just tried the second banner I printed at higher temp and it’s just the same…..so I’m going for broke and cranking the temp right up and using sign & display ink profile on Versaworks…fingers crossed as this one has to be out and posted on Monday…

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Must be someone out there with some help from this huge font of knowledge?…..

Anyone?

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Hi Dave,

The warmth/heat can be felt and the profile for the banner material shows 37 degrees print and 40 degrees dryer.

I have upped these to 40 print and 45 dryer and reprinted and this seems….note I said seems…… to have done the trick but help/advice from the more knowledgable would be appreciated…

[Roger Clements]

It doesn’t open in x3 but just as a thought …if you copy it and bitmap trace the copy then make a boundary on the bitmapped copy could you could overlay that on the original….

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Ouch……hope you’re not in too much pain and get well soon.

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Ouch….GWS Hugh. I used to play regularly (number 13) even reaching the great heights of being in the RAF 2nd team in Cyprus some years ago…well many many aeons actually :lol1: and had to give up at the age of 25 on medical advice. I had knackered knees and found it difficult walking up stairs.

Hope you mend soon and acan get back in there…I miss it loads but that’s life.

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That’s some nice looking work you’ve done there……like Darren I think the carbon looks really good. What did you use?

[Roger Clements]

If it’s of any help….I started with a Graphtec 5000-60 and Corel x3….and both have served me well.

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Will that be a ‘no’ then?

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Hi Chris…..no I’ve not had the ‘pleasure’ of fitting yet and that’s why I was concerned when I was told he was using app tape. Being a ‘beginner’ my knowledge has been gleaned from here and the font of video knowledge…’youtube’…and not the rubbish that sometimes pops up on there either. Having seen some of the professionals there….vehicle wrapping of Dakar rally cars and the impressive Mr Lambie truck & vehicle wrapping it seemed strange to be using app tape….but I’m ready to stand corrected.

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Hi Chris…..like I said the customer rarely keeps things for long…he’s renown for getting rid at the right price so laminating would just have been a waste of time and money in my opinion. The thing I was concerned about was the comment that I used a ‘cheap’ vinyl and it will shrink…..I bet Grafityp won’t be too happy if they read this… 🙄

Supposedly the ‘fitter’ has been in the ‘trade’ for over 20 years so I’m a bit puzzled as to why he would use app tape on a medium size (1 mtr x 0.80 mtr)panel?

Luke…thanks for the ‘mini bus’ info ….it makes me feel a bit better about non lamination…..though I have posted now about getting a laminator.

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Congratulations on the award…..

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Thanks Peter,
That’s exactly why I asked the question…..only you put it better than I did.

The reason I asked the question was hopefully to find out from those using Fluid mask 3 after having used the Lite version if version 3 is that much more effective. At present I only know the capabilities of the Lite version and if you folks can tell me whether version 3 is that much better/more effective that’s what I would like to know.

Cheers

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Nice job peter…..did you get any free samples???? 🙄

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quote Glorianne Ellul Bonici:

quote Roger Clements:

I’m neither technically minded ..or brave/stupid enough to start messing with my Sp-300 so I’ll just carry on ‘wasting’ ink…. 🙄

Hi Roger,
Well, thank god there’s people who like to experiment, otherwise we’ll still using the Primitive woodblock printing. 🙂

Quote: “I will not say I failed 1000 times, I will say that I discovered 1000 ways that can cause Failure.” Thomas Alva Edison.

Very true…but messing with the insides of ££££’s of machinery just to save a few £’s on ink …too risky in my book with the possible scenario of the machine down time to mess with and/or a big bill for Roland to put it right not to mention lost production time…….

Think I’ll leave this one to the ‘Thomas Edisons’ of the world… :lol1:….oh and welcome to UKSB

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I’m neither technically minded ..or brave/stupid enough to start messing with my Sp-300 so I’ll just carry on ‘wasting’ ink…. 🙄

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Thanks Alan……having done one set this evening I think the customer will go with the Grafityp I already have. It’s come out better than I thought…tough and ‘handleable’ without being too thick.

Thanks for the information folks …you’ve been a mine of information as usual… :thumbsup:

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Thanks Hugh….should have said non laminated. Any recommendations regarding the most suitable vinyl as the topic has been raised?

I was going to use Grafityp 512 white gloss.

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Just found ‘Blues radio’ on ‘tinternet…..nice and relaxing stuff……

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Ignore the kids Jill…..what do they know…. :lol1:

I really like the first one…bold, eyecatching and…well just right on. On a T shirt it will look great.

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David…not a wobbly mate. I seem to have posted my pic incorrectly. I trust the Mods have corrected my error as I was nicely informed I got it wrong….Sorry one and all

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Mark….small claims court proceedings is the way to go. A qoute accepted and the job done is a fait accompli regardless of getting a cheaper qoute after the event. As long as you have written proof of the acceptance you should have no problem. Usually the ‘promise’ of SCC is enough to get wallets open…..

There is a lot of info on the web if you search ‘small claims court’ with useful contact numbers for Business Link and ‘communitylegaladvice’

Good luck.

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:thumbsup: spot on Peter 100% the right thing to do……maybe you could have offered to send the quote direct to her insurance company……I bet that would have made her panic a bit.

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Gert…my SP in the photo is an older SP. However I was informed it was one of the last of the previous SP with the updated motherboard. This means no replacement was needed to run Versaworks…..it merely required a switchover on the board to recognise and operate VW…and yes it is very solid and quite heavy which I like…as we say it’s built like a tank… :lol1: and yes again I got a brilliant deal… :thumbsup:

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Hi Matt….welcome to the ‘boards’……I’ve not been on here very long but have found everyone friendly and helpful…..hope you do too…. :thumbsup:

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You beat me to the reply Gavin……just to expand on this …..the machine has a self clean function which requires it not to be switched off/powered off like Gavin said. Also if yours is like/similar to mine it goes ‘to sleep’ (energy saving circuitry)when not in use and ‘wakes up’ to self clean. However this self clean does not negate the need to do a 2 weekly manual clean……unless, like Gavin said, you fancy a nice big bill for gummed up heads.

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Hi Dan….I just had my SP 300V installed with VW and SignLab8 for Versaworks. All the software is running fine on Vista Home 64bit. Apparently VW says it doesn’t work on Vista Home 64bit but the chap who installed my machine said this is not the case and got it installed and running with no problems. As for computer spec…well I’m no ‘geek’ so I would say got for the biggest HD and RAM along with the fastest chipset/processor you can afford. That way you are going someway towards ‘future proofing’.

Oh and as a ‘heads up’….the chap who installed my machine/software said to steer clear of Windows 7 in any form for the time being as it is so very new and might not support other software packages you might want to run. Also being so new it is having ‘teething problems’.

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Nicely done Jill…..eyecatching and ‘simples’….it looks really good.. :thumbsup:

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Many thanks for all the replies …and for being ‘gentle’ with me…. :lol1:

Phil…many thanks for your kind comment.

Peter….yes mate it’s always left on with a BIG …’DO NOT SWITCH OFF’ sign posted nearby. Also I will be cleaning (manually as recommended) every fortnight.

John….Leigh Griffiths installed mine and I have to say he was excellent…..Top bloke.

David…..I might just find £20 for the book and yes the space will be used…..somehow…. :lol1:

It was interesting to hear from Leigh that there is a ‘memory’ installed in these machines so Roland can see machine history regarding covers etc having been removed for cleaning. So there’s no hiding from them if you ‘misuse’ the cleaning schedule………wow there’s a spy in my machine…. (oogle)

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Nice bikes Paul….Cadwell shot loks like coming out of Mansfield?

You still doing track days?

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Just inadvertently tried Karens ‘overnight’ tip….I cut some small stuff 2 days ago ..in black…and lo and behold when I got back to it today ….shrinkage……..simples…I like it. No more small punctuation marks etc lost or fiddled about with.. :thumbsup:

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Interesting problem this one…..I don’t see how this will retain enough ‘magnetic stickability’ to work……looking forward to the ‘solution’ and good luck getting the big order as well as proving the mag companies wrong :thumbup2:

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That will be a ‘wet’ application then….. :lol1:

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Never had the good fortune to meet with John but from the posts here he was obviously a really nice chap. Condolences to those left behind. RIP John.

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…..but it does say polyethylene/polypropylene surfaces which from memory…(yes I’ve still got a bit left…. 🙄 ) is what almost all MX bikes bodywork is made of. With new plastics I used to wash down with brake cleaner and apply the graphics and never had one fail to stick like stuff to the proverbial blanket…..

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I thought it was Unical until I checked the letter ‘b’….on some it’s correct on others it’s only like a small capital…..still looking anyway.

Alan have you got the link for your ‘Unical’?

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That looks pretty darn good…….well done… :thumbsup:

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Good luck Hugh…I was asked to do some ‘highway’ stuff and after asking on here and looking at the ‘regs’ decided it was too much of a minefield so ran away…. :lol1:

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quote Ivan Morley:

If insurance companies are permitted to not lose out from ‘an act of god‘ / natural disaster,

and if you are an atheist does this ‘act’ still apply?

I’ll get my coat…… 🙄

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Certainly stands out and with the ‘multi colour glare’ it sort of goes with ‘Solar’…..nice :appl:

Are you going to put company info on the rear doors?……just thinking of all those people stuck behind you in traffic wondering who/what you are?

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Just got this from a military chat site:

Published: Friday, April 16, 2010
HELSINKI – Finnish fighter jets which flew through the volcanic dust covering much of Europe suffered damage and the air force warned Friday the cloud could have a significant impact on planes.

The air force F-18 Hornet jets were on training flights in northern Finland on Thursday morning, when airspace was still open, and the engines were later found to contain fine, volcanic ash dust.

"Based on the pictures, it was discovered that even short flights in ash dust may cause significant damage to an airplane’s engine," the Finnish Defence Forces said in a statement.

Images taken inside one Hornet engine with a fibroscope camera indicated that the heat of the engine – around 1,000 degrees Celcius – had melted the ash inside the engine, blocking ventilation channels. "Blockages of ventilation channels caused by melting ash lead engine components to overheat and material to weaken," it said, adding this could fracture rotating engine parts. In the worst case, the weakening of component materials could cause "parts to detach and the engine to be destroyed," it said.

The Hornets exposed to the dust from the eruption of a volcano in Iceland would be checked thoroughly, with "at least some" of the engines detached and sent for further studies and repair.

Maybe the right decision was made then?

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Well put John…..there’s big players and little guys all looking to make a living (of sorts) so prices will vary with overheads, quality, service and your target market…so hopefully we can all live happily together… :lol1:

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quote Nicola McIntosh:

quote Dan Osterbery:

we use it as packing paper to protect products!

me too used shredder.. then it was handy for packing 😀

nik

Great idea…. :thumbsup:

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quote John Hughes:

How are they going to learn any aspects of design for day to day work ?
John

Learning by ‘example’ is a good way in my opinion John…..so these ‘for example’ suggestions are teaching some of us something…..and that’s got to be a good thing.

Just my take on it… 😀

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quote Peter Normington:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Iceland-Volcano-Eruption-Why-Is-Volcanic-Dust-So-Dangerous-For-Aircrafts/Article/201004315602761?f=rss

So was it over reacting?

Peter

IMO it was a ‘damned if you do …damned if you don’t’……and I feel that maybe this tme to err on the side of caution was correct. If just one 747 had gone in with hundreds onboard there would be worse questions to answer than there are now……

and no I’m not of the risk avoidance mindset…more of the ‘err on the side of caution’ where literally hundreds, if not thousands of lives are concerned.

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It used to be called ‘market forces’…….. 🙄

The oldie comment on pricing was:

Chap gets a quote from 2 places…..one for £100 and one for £50. He goes to the guy who quoted £100 and asks why he charges so much in comparison to the guy down the road….The guy charging £100 says if you don’t like my price why are you here…..

The answer ….because the guy selling for £50 doesn’t have any…..

The answer to the ‘cheap e-bay etc’ sellers is that now ‘everyone’ has some!!

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quote Phill:

Hopefully a few (incompetent) heads will roll for their part in this huge debacle that was entirely avoidable and unnecessary.

And pigs might fly Phil….when did anyone in this ‘ass covering’ establishment ever pay the price of incompetence? :banghead: :banghead:

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It can’t be a real disaster anyway ’cause Bono and Geldof are not planning on making a ‘charidee’ single………………………………………………..Yet….. :rofl:

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quote Hugh Potter:

kids need feeding so time to get the pinny on again!

Hugh

You need one of these Hugh…..

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Hugh….Those are both good looking and ‘simples’ IMO.

The rear view looks particularly good. It’s clear, informative and has all the info needed to see what you offer and how to contact you…..and it is eyecatching.

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I’ve got a feeling if we carry on with this ‘conspiracy’ theory bit Michael Moore might make UKSB into a movie…. 🙄

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quote Jillbeans:

‘Es pining for the fjords?

😉

Jill

Love your taste in humour Jill….. :rofl:

[Roger Clements]

Ouch….that’s painful. Also reads like the ‘tech’ wasn’t particularly good at diagnostics and you’ve suffered both business wise and financially.

That’s tough luck…….

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quote Gavin Conway:

it’s just an automatic reaction…. even one of us would do it… he also probably thought he still had at least 1 wheel left!!

True…but it’s still funny.

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The funniest thing is he carried on steering after the wheels broke off …. :rofl:

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quote Phill:

Ok , I’ll spell it out for you …

Nibaru 😮

That’s not until 2012 is it Phil…

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Oh and it was a turbo-prop not a piston engined a/c in the report so it was a so called ‘jet engined’ a/c flying in there….

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quote Phill:

There’s definitely more to this – I’m not buying the Volcanic Eruption cover story..

I was watching on the news tonight – they showed film of the volcano erupting taken from an airplane a few miles away from eruption, yet here thousands of miles away and with a perfectly clear sky (where’s all the dust I’m asking myself) it’s supposedly too dangerous for any planes to fly!!

Nope – doesn’t add up.

I reckon when Gordon Brown and his cohorts get their live debate this evening the first question they should be asked is “own up and tell us what is really going on” ? 😮

Nothing like a good conspiracy theory Phil…unfortunately this time I have to say I’m sure there isn’t one. The ash is being spewed upwards right into the jetstream where most a/c operate. This dust if ingested acts like a grit bath on the compressor blades, clogs filters and basically causes engine shutdown….not a good idea at 40000 feet (ish).

The a/c doing observation flying was probably around 15-20000 feet. Winds are predictable and measurable. In close proximity to the volcano…(or wherever the a/c is flying… the crew know where the dust/debris will be blowing)therefore they operate upwind of the volcano encountering minimal risk. A/C operating on set routes have no option but to fly in the jetstream due to fuel considerations…(too much fuel other than base line and diversion fuel costs money to carry and cuts into airline profits)so can’t reroute as freely as the observation a/c you saw on TV.

So sorry…no conspiracy this time…but I suppose we can still blame Iceland anyway… :rofl:

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Hugh…just my 2d input….I like the bottom one…nicely clean, simple and the dragon is eyecatching. Just for me I would have the phone number in there somewhere and maybe where your business is. It makes potential clients notice more if they see you are local and want to keep a bit of ‘local loyalty’.

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Very true John….. :lol1:

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I went yesterday for the first time therefore with an open mind. I found it very ‘user friendly’ with all and everyone exhibiting having the time to stop and chat. Whilst this was good for me one ‘major’ exhibitor did say things were very slow compared to last year. So all in all it was good for a ‘virgin’ sign show visitor…..and yes I did spend more than intended…. 😀

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quote :

Stop helping the people who don’t know jackschidt! Simples! 🙄

That’s not fair……Jack is well known…. :lol1:

So to educate those who really don’t know Jack Schidt read on…

For some time many of us have wondered just who is Jack Schidt? We find ourselves at a loss when someone says, "You don’t know Jack Schidt" Well, thanks to my genealogy efforts, you can now respond in an intellectual way.

Jack Schidt is the only son of Awe Schidt.

Awe Schidt, the fertilizer magnate, married Miss O. Needeep They had one son, Jack.

In turn, Jack Schidt married Noe Idea (becoming Noe Schidt on marriage). The deeply religious couple produced six children: Holie Schidt, Giva Schidt, Fulla Schidt, Bull Schidt, and the twins Deap Schidt and Dip Schidt.

Against her parents’ objections, Deap Schidt married her cousin Dumb Schidt, a high school dropout. After being married 15 years, Jack and Noe Schidt divorced.

Noe Schidt later married Ted Sherlock, and, because her kids were living with them, she wanted to keep her previous name. She was then known as Noe Schidt Sherlock.

Meanwhile, Dip Schidt married Loda Schidt, and they produced a son with a rather nervous disposition named Chick N. Schitt.

Two of the other six children, Fulla Schidt and Giva Schidt, were inseparable throughout childhood and subsequently married the Happens brothers in a dual ceremony.

The wedding announcement in the newspaper announced the Schidt-Happens nuptials.

The Schidt-Happens children were Dawg, Byrd, and Hoarse. Bull Schidt, the prodigal son, left home to tour the world. He recently returned from Italy with his new Italian bride, Pisa Schidt.

Now when someone says, "You don’t know Jack Schidt," you can correct them.

Sorry folks…I’ll get my coat…..

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Driving up on Tuesday….first time visiting the show so I hope you’ll understand it’s quite exciting for me…..lots of nice shiny things I can’t afford…. (<(

[Roger Clements]

Thanks for the replies guys…just a bit more info…it’s running Vista 64bit Home premium. Hope this helps with any replies.

Cheers

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Not sure if this applies in this case but from past knowledge you had to get a ‘model release’ form signed to use specific images of a person commercially. If however the photograph used is a ‘general’ scene then this did/does not apply.

[Roger Clements]

And he is offering ‘House Hold’???? vinyl stickers…..IMO he’s a numpty and I sure wouldn’t give him my hard earned cash.

Just my 2d worth..

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V nice Derek….you still racing?

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Cheers Steve….another couple of pics from my last ‘playtime’…

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Phil…I’d hate to think what you use as a brake…. :rofl:

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Hi Steve….not posted for a while but have been reading ‘loads’. Amongst which was your biker thread…..a hobby very much to the fore in my life.

Here’s a picture of my ‘playtime’ baby….oh and I’ll be at the ‘show’ on Tuesday 13th.

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Hi folks…many thanks for the replies. As a font of knowledge you guys have come up trumps again. Whilst I read what I could and found the ‘regs’ something of a minefield your replies have confirmed my ‘fears’ and findings. Next step is to visit the the customer and see if I can/am prepared to take this one on….it’s the legal minefield that is deterrring me to be honest….

Thanks again folks you’ve been a great help.

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Just my 2d worth….avoid red…as has already been said it fades fairly quickly unless cleaned/polished regularly.

[Roger Clements]

Congratulations……you must all feel so very proud/pleased. Just goes to show kids are worth the effort….sometimes… :rofl:

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quote Peter Normington:

Roger
Any sign will be damage with impact, be it composite or correx.
so will any other material on the site, including the building itself, so do people purposely throw bricks at signs?

Just because its a construction site, doesn’t mean people destroy signage?

You must have ‘careful’ brickies and labourers in your area Peter… :lol1:

So if you know of any ‘brick proof’ substrates I’d be interested….steel sheet not allowed… :rofl:

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quote Peter Normington:

Roger
I have no idea why a building site should be perceived as more inappropriate for rigid plastic than any other location.
Peter

My thinking was if the signs are in/on ‘thouroughfares/scaffolding/walkways etc’ with equipment/supplies being moved around there is the risk of ‘rigid’ plastic breaking on impact…particularly when cold in the winter. Hence my questioning if it was/is suitable or is there a more ‘impact’ resistant/more flexible product.

Based on my inexperience……but with assistance from the good folks here…. I wish to make an informed offer to my (hopefully) client which will, I hope, realise future …possibly bigger orders…..

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quote Glenn Sharp:

I would find out if it is to be fixed direct onto a wall or hoarding…in which case 3 mill foamex would be ok

If it is to go on a frame or scaffolding where it wouldn’t be fully supported I would go for something more rigid

have you got any more info on it’s exact usage?

Thank you all for the replies.

Peter…I was merely asking about other products as I feel rigid plastic might be too easily broken on site and, as has been said, I would like to offer an option to his choice.

Glenn….The request was a fairly quick phone call tonight and I hope to have more info tomorrow……I will update here with more specifics when I have them.

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quote Martin:

Roger, try dong a search as this question has been asked a few times before.
Think you will find that as Brian has said the standards are pretty vague and as John has said most people just match the best they can from what ever vinyl range they use.

Have you had samples from various vinyl suppliers and decided on which range of vinyl you will be using on a daily basis ?

Hi Martin,
Thanks for the reply. As I am still very much ‘new’ I’m using vinyl that came with the Graphtec as well as a batch of Mactac I bought to hone my ‘limited’ skills on.
I will have to contact some suppliers for swatches/samples to better assess what else is available.

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Thanks George….just getting the phone…. :thumbup2:

[Roger Clements]

Hi Peter….I’ve got a sample of what’s required. Just measured it and it’s 5mm thick for both indoor and outdoor use. Signage graphic will simply be cut vinyl…. 5-7 yr for durability. Fitting will simply be by drilling holes in the substrate and either screwing or using wire/plastic tiewraps done by the customer.

[Roger Clements]

Thanks Peter..you’re a font of knowledge….. :thumbup2:
Any particular company you would recommend based on your experience? Also am I right in thinking 3mm foamalux is the correct substrate?

[Roger Clements]

Thanks folks….I have to find some ‘cut to size’ foamalux for H&S signs….will check out some suppliers tomorrow.

[Roger Clements]

quote Ian Johnston:

not to risk sounding like Rob but

https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=38498

😀 😀 😀
this will have all you need on it

Thanks Ian…already did that…. :thumbup2: