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which substrates are tough enough for outside signage?
Hello people,
I would appreciate some advice relating to an enquiry I have received.
A potential client is looking for a quantity of signs for use on a building site (outdoor signage). The size is 3ft x 3ft and he says he wants ‘rigid plastic’ as the substrate.
Your advice would be appreciated as to whether or not this would be appropriate in this environment or could you recommend a more suitable substrate.
Many thanks in advance for your help.
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Why would it not be appropriate? If the client has specified the material, why do you need to confirm it is suitable?
Peter
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quote Peter Normington:Why would it not be appropriate? If the client has specified the material, why do you need to confirm it is suitable?Peter
Because the client often does not know what’s best Peter. Sometimes they don’t know and it is up to us to advise. He’s probably already had a price to do it using rigid PVC and is looking for a comparison price
To answer Rogers question, I would suggest an aluminum composite material would be better suited but this would probably work out slightly more expensive. I would price it using both materials Roger and point out the advantages in using composite over rigid plastic. 😀
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In this case the client has asked for a quote for a specific material that is suitable for the job, and so does have a clue what is best.
Building sites want cheapest, they are not interested in paying more than necessary for "better quality" it is short term use and foamex or rigid pvc is the way to go.
Just my opinion though,Peter
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By "Rigid Plastic" He probably means PVC. eg Foamex etc. I would give him a price for 5mm and as Phill suggested 3mm composite board (Dibond).
All of these materials will be available cut to size from someone like Donald Murray. -
quote Martin Oxenham:By “Rigid Plastic” He probably means PVC. eg Foamex etc. I would give him a price for 5mm and as Phill suggested 3mm composite board (Dibond).
All of these materials will be available cut to size from someone like Donald Murray.Why not 3mm Foamex?
at the size specified, far cheaper than composite and will do the jobPeter
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I think 3mm would be to thin for a building site, you may as well use Correx. For the price difference I would’nt bother risking it.
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quote Martin Oxenham:I think 3mm would be to thin for a building site, you may as well use Correx. For the price difference I would’nt bother risking it.
Correx is also a suitable material, why do you think 3mm foamex is not suitable for a building site??
Peter
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quote Phill:quote Peter Normington:Why would it not be appropriate? If the client has specified the material, why do you need to confirm it is suitable?
Peter
Because the client often does not know what’s best Peter. Sometimes they don’t know and it is up to us to advise. He’s probably already had a price to do it using rigid PVC and is looking for a comparison price
To answer Rogers question, I would suggest an aluminum composite material would be better suited but this would probably work out slightly more expensive. I would price it using both materials Roger and point out the advantages in using composite over rigid plastic. 😀
I could say that for a few more pounds, powder coated ally would be even better than composite
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I would find out if it is to be fixed direct onto a wall or hoarding…in which case 3 mill foamex would be ok
If it is to go on a frame or scaffolding where it wouldn’t be fully supported I would go for something more rigid
have you got any more info on it’s exact usage?
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quote Glenn Sharp:I would find out if it is to be fixed direct onto a wall or hoarding…in which case 3 mill foamex would be okIf it is to go on a frame or scaffolding where it wouldn’t be fully supported I would go for something more rigid
have you got any more info on it’s exact usage?
Thank you all for the replies.
Peter…I was merely asking about other products as I feel rigid plastic might be too easily broken on site and, as has been said, I would like to offer an option to his choice.
Glenn….The request was a fairly quick phone call tonight and I hope to have more info tomorrow……I will update here with more specifics when I have them.
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Roger
I have no idea why a building site should be perceived as more inappropriate for rigid plastic than any other location.
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quote Peter Normington:Roger
I have no idea why a building site should be perceived as more inappropriate for rigid plastic than any other location.
PeterMy thinking was if the signs are in/on ‘thouroughfares/scaffolding/walkways etc’ with equipment/supplies being moved around there is the risk of ‘rigid’ plastic breaking on impact…particularly when cold in the winter. Hence my questioning if it was/is suitable or is there a more ‘impact’ resistant/more flexible product.
Based on my inexperience……but with assistance from the good folks here…. I wish to make an informed offer to my (hopefully) client which will, I hope, realise future …possibly bigger orders…..
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Roger
Any sign will be damage with impact, be it composite or correx.
so will any other material on the site, including the building itself, so do people purposely throw bricks at signs?Just because its a construction site, doesn’t mean people destroy signage?
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quote Peter Normington:Roger
Any sign will be damage with impact, be it composite or correx.
so will any other material on the site, including the building itself, so do people purposely throw bricks at signs?Just because its a construction site, doesn’t mean people destroy signage?
You must have ‘careful’ brickies and labourers in your area Peter… :lol1:
So if you know of any ‘brick proof’ substrates I’d be interested….steel sheet not allowed… :rofl:
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