[Gordon Forbes]

Its the same type as a road sign 2 big posts but the frame is galvanised and in between the posts not on the front like a road sign.
I will look into the dibond type and channel to see if i can get anything.

Is it specific channel for dibond or off the shelf at metal suppliers?

Thanks
Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

Its going on the bottom of a road type sign but fitted in between the two posts I think it will have to be fitted on the top and sides.
I have seen the demo for panatrim but is it good for two way viewing?

[Gordon Forbes]

You’ll not be sayin much about ABERDEEN then Nick !!!!

[Gordon Forbes]

Me am a space cadet u know

[Gordon Forbes]

Don’t know if this applies or not but I did some prints on hotmark (tshirt stuff very good) with a PC600 and used the clear backing off other tshirt cut stuff (the clear sticky backing) and it ruined the prints overnight. Smudged them all.

[Gordon Forbes]

Thanks Brushman I will give it try in Signlab . Its just I was reading the Roland manual and it sid that it Had to be enbled in the cutter to get it to print but I think it might be something to do with signlab that it doesn’t do this.
I will give it a go in Signlab anyway.
I’ll get in touch with Print one to see I think they mentioned it to see what the interest would be to start supplying it as far as I understood it.

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

Bit off topic but if you are watching Brian How much is an upgrade from Signlab E6 to Version 7

Just wondering. (well might upgrade u never know)

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

They are for ATV and Quads and they guys wants them to be permanent ( well for 10 years he said) so I thought that laminating would be the best option, or would they stand up for a few years abuse on these wuthout laminating.

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

Richard No what you are saying is right it has to be set on the printer as you say I have done so and it doesn’t print the registration marks I will keep trying though.

Outline No it doesn’t have optical alignment . What it does do is once the settings are made on the pinter it prints three registration marks on its own.
You take it out after printing laminate re load set up the first point (You get an adapter in the kit supplied) align the first make it the base point and then do the other two for length and then tell it to cut.

I need to do it for laminating labels for outside use and it isn’t worthwhile if I can’t get it to countour cut after laminating. To time consuming doing it by guillotine.

Thanks anyway for help.
There was a post on here a few months ago by someone who said they do it all the time on a PC600 I had a look but I will have to look again.

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

Hope this helps

Goop

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[Gordon Forbes]

These OK

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wheat1.ai

[Gordon Forbes]

You didn’t cut the T*t off your clit finger did you???

[Gordon Forbes]

You can buy vinyl chequer plate an it looks good to supposed to last for 5 years outdoors.

Think it was corbin speciality films Don’t know the price though.

[Gordon Forbes]

definitely frisket get in mat and gloss forms it ain’t cheap

[Gordon Forbes]

The one in Signlab is pretty good lots of setting you can tweak how accurate amount of colours, line types etc etc (can tell it to merge colours after it has scanned posterised they call it) requires a bit less tweaking than some of the ones I have used.

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

Feels like a bigger problem now like you get in that puzzle books

How did it get from mils to John Holmes in about 5 steps I’ll never know.

That’ll stump a few people (no pup intended or double entendre)

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

Why does it do it for some and not others ???

[Gordon Forbes]

Its the First letter of the 7 letter word before Genius ends in a G thats where it is. lol

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

I feel its got nothing to do with Cadlink. Its the industry as a whole and the ways companies work nowadays.

No stock cuts costs etc etc in all forms. Most businesses are just a shell of there former selves in the new corporate ?>llsh+^it way of running things. I don’t care what any of them say I could guarantee none of them provide the level of service they did 5-10 years ago regardless of any of the tripe they spout.

They spend more time in corporate image being politically correct SAP and all that related hub flub upper management loading more and more on to the lower levels while they spend time in endless managment meetings etc etc most of which are nothing to do with day to day work.

All it does is take money out of the pot.

Something has got to give and at the end of the day its COSTS

Profit disapearing so they cut them more and more hence no printed manuals (Just an example) most of these companies do the same now all you get is a quick installation guide industry wide so don’t moan about just Cadlink not supplying them.

I know because I work in one.

Goop

my little rant over for the day.

Its there in HTML if you want to print it difference being it costs YOU money to print not them

[Gordon Forbes]

Think u should definitly buy SIGNLAB 7 LOL

[Gordon Forbes]

well go look it up then
try roberthorne

[Gordon Forbes]

Cox comes under Robert Thorne Grouphttp://www.roberthorne.co.uk/CP/index.asp

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Give your t shirts a short 3 to 5 second heat before applying anything as this takes out any moisture and makes it nice and flat for the design.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

People say and I have heard this too that even the white lines on the roads aren’t safe in Liverpool

That right Lamby??

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Thanks for the help peeps. Much appreciated.

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

Corel an Flexi

Don’t think he can spell anything else

lol

[Gordon Forbes]

Use signlab myself but from the help i have been reading all you have to do is put a cut line around it and tell illustrator what colour to cut as far as i am aware go to the roland website in the forums sure you will find advice there.

Hope this points you in the right direction.

[Gordon Forbes]

Is alucolour the same as dibond ??

[Gordon Forbes]

Tooo mannneeee sssuuurrrrippitisiouss things goin on on the web nowadays even innocent stuff seems to have hidden things come down with em
Glad I pointed you in the right direction.

[Gordon Forbes]

I can recommend the print stuff from victory the newer stuff they have 60degree wash is excellent nice and thin though it does curl on its own but really good with the PC600 I might just post an example I did.

[Gordon Forbes]

Try Adaware and spybot as they both miss things that the other catches.
I would say that you may have your browser hi jacked and ther is a thing you can download to check this do a search on google for hijacked browsers an that may fix it.

[Gordon Forbes]

Got 4.1 but its a bit big for e-mail 349 mega byte can send it if you like and download the update which I am going to do myself If i can.

Edward Mathias seems to be the best deal in the UK don’t know if he will supply overseas though. Cant remember the details but do a search on here and it will turn up.

Be warned he likes a yap on the phone though

[Gordon Forbes]

I have no experience of the graphtec and I only have a summa D60 which performs flawlessly sorry I can’t be of more help.

Goop
PS all these machines at this level perform as expected I feel

[Gordon Forbes]

I read somewhere that for saving quality on files like these thay .png is actually the best save without any loss or compression effects but I think has bigger files.

[Gordon Forbes]

Hows this
Have a few others as well

Goop.

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[Gordon Forbes]

I bought a straight line thingy from B & Q or maybe Travis Perkins I think it was looks like an 8 mtere tape measure housing if you understand what I’m saying I bought it for getting a straight line while putting up a lot of shelves.
Magic it is can go over uneven surfaces and is very very bright goes from the shed to me other shed no probs (10, 15 yards) Im sure I could make up a little bracket to lie it onto so it would be of use for this feel a project comin on.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

The new D60 has Opus and I read in a thread all the graphtec plotters come with it as well just has to be mentioned when buying or something like that came from the horses mouth its self that did.
Master Lambie.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

How soon do you need it done? How big and How many??? as I am going away Friday for about a week and I can’t promise to have them done tomorrow.I can do them on a PC600 wash up to 60 deg.

But I am sure someone else should be able to help.

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

Thanks for all the advice seems to have set my mind at ease as regards this anyway
Thanks guys.
Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Tryin to figure out what you were doin.
You inlay welded the white letters over the outline giving you a black outline and white letters? Then you took this onto the yellow and inlay welded the letters and outline to the yellow background.
This as far as I can see gives you seperate yellow,black and white.
I did this and had no problems at all with my version I downloaded the update Revision 16 I am on.
I have had the problem with the VEF fonts mentioned above but haven’t tried this solution yet I just choose another font at the time as it wasn’t critical.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

For the above have you tried the Hinge method posted elsewhere in the forum. I use it most of the time as I end up fitting on my own and can’t seem to do it any other way when your on your todd.

Also did you try it in direct sunlight eccelent recipe for bubbles as I found out one day. Sun came out strong halfway through a large decal (black underlay) and man it just exploded had to make a new one.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Same as the other comments welcome aboard and hope to be of help in the future

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Wonder where u got that from ??

[Gordon Forbes]

Bit off topic but I got quite a few AC DC albums (all) on mp3 alledgedly an ave got dirty deeds done dirt cheap, Back in Black an Sin City constantly goin on in me head if you know wnat I mean.
A great example of Timeless classic rock if there ever was one.
Looks like they have stopped touring now a pity.

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

Wee bit off topic but whats that tape applicator that you mentin Nick ??
Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Can anyone post a link to their site I can’t find it

Ta veeerieee moooch

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Thinking more about it just giv I’m a SLAP

[Gordon Forbes]

Give him a sheet of cut letters close as possible all jumbled up no weed borders no app tape an charge im a tenner for that.

See if that keeps him happy. Then you might make about £4.00 from it.

[Gordon Forbes]

an am sittin on the fence cause a’ve never done one

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Rob could be that its saved in a later version of Illustrator If its after vers 7 I think your signlab will struggle with it only an opinion of course opened in Illustrator no probs for me

Goop

Mmmm says its a version 7 or earlier sounds like I’m speaking thru a hoop again lol

[Gordon Forbes]

Can u elaborate on that Rob please

I have spybot search and destroy and ran it a few times.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Trid all that an still dog slow at times using moz firebired build 09.3 some difference

Try it you might like it and doesn’t affect IE settings either
Thanks for the help anyway.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

There was a post from Print one stating that the type of isopropanol tht you get from the chemist is only about 50% pure and you should use the 99% pure type.

I got 5L from FIS Chemicals at Aberdeen for less than £20 (cant remember exactly how much)
Any supplier of chemicals to Industry should have I would imagine and much cheaper than a chemist.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

I tried the link to the email on the post link and couldn’t get it to work.
Would still like more info though.

[Gordon Forbes]

I recently downloaded an update to rev 6.16and to be fair I dont get a lot of glitches from it anyway. Had a computer freeze today after printing a large file but thankfully it was after all printing was done.
As for eas of use cutting by colour in the cut manager is a boost makes life easy as far as I.m concerend.

Haven’t heard much about Ver 7 at all. and as you said Becky whats the point of going from E6 full pack to Ver 7.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Pretty big institution the old US of A LOL

(must say only joking)

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

I used their clear stuff nice and see thru can get it in different widths 300 I think mine was but I didn’t get a chance to use it someone else did the applying though.
Went on easily and a lot thinner than the clear I use at the moment though there is nothing wrong with it sticks to well to to good at times it seems

Had a problem that last job with it actually sticking to the vinyl it didn’t seem to want to lift it from the backing paper no matter which way I tried it Just about to do another job with it and I shall see if its the same.
NB this is not the europoint stuff mentioned above.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Nuthin wrong wi the PM in my opinion

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

Aye get rid of the goldfish mouth !!

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Save in Illustrator version 7 format before saving and importing to Signlab
Seem to remember reading this somewhere (Ive been saving in format 8 without any problems) even though illustrator asks if you are sure save in 7

see if that helps

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

and why would you want to do that nuthin ventured nuthin gained as the big loons say.
How do you know your capabilities if you dont try to go past them?.

Seriously all the information you can look at on this site will help you tackle stuff you thought you wren’t capable of.

So don’t be afraid to ask someone will help no matter how stupid YOU think the question is.

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

I just did a supply job someone else fitting and I have to do at least 25% again due to bad fitting. To be fair to the guy I think a lot of it was to do with time constraints on his side

Touch of the “I am fast but by f$^* I’m rough”
Some of the stuff is whole design and shadow to replace and on the back door some whole words due to misplacement, even though I supplied detailed layout drawingd along with it.

Bit off post but relevant to the last one.

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

Well here’s my tuppence worth.
Buy a branded name well recognised Roland. Summa Graphtec what ever and buy a 610 (24″) minimum start at around £1200 here in the UK and I feel at this size they are all up to the job of professional work ie yuo get smooth curves (I have a summa D60 and it has 3 settings for curve resolution cuts nice an smooth no steps what so ever and you get an Illustrator add in to cut from there though I have never used it, use signlab)
These are a little more expensive but they will always sell secondhand as well if things don’t work out with it. I feel and most on here will tell you to steer well clear of the Stika and their like though I have never used one but have seen their results (no comment).

You can always buy one secondhand of course but if you buy new you know what you have from the start.

It may seem like a lot of money to cut small decals but you will have the ability to go up to 22″ – 23″ if the need be and tshirt thermal transfer material is a lot cheaper on the roll anyway.

Hope this may help in your descion to buy.

Definitly go for a larger plotter / cutter (you can always use the pen for laying out drawings to paper which might help you on the garment side only guessing at this though but again you have the ability.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Thought V6.1 is the one with the thermal output definitley does edge cause you can choose one in the set up.
Take it in as a jpeg (not the best option png is the best option doesn’t compress and distort the same) or even an eps
When it comes in a black area will cover it put this to the back select both and select clipping (arrange>clipping) drag to the size you want an then print.
This is the simplest way for a quick plot just for a test.
Well I find it easy anyway.

[Gordon Forbes]

Check to see if you have any settings to do with anti aliaising.
If you have switch it on that gets rid of the jagged edges as far as I’m aware (in other programmes that is)

Don’t use it so can only suggest.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Of chemica I mean

thanks Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

I tried finding this and can’t comeup with them.
Whats the address or even better website please.

[Gordon Forbes]

I downloaded this one Lightbox cost $30 and you can download from the web.
Previews a host of file types.
.ai and eps need to be in a later version format (5 i think)but it saves a lot of grief
Onlt niggle I have is don’t have hundereds of files in one folder seperate into smaller lots and it doesn’t stall. Pretty memory intensive whigh is understandable but can be dis/re enabled with the click of the mouse.

I didn’t find any free ones when i was looking

Hope this might be of help to you

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

EPS format

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[Gordon Forbes]

Rose

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[Gordon Forbes]

No scroll am afraid
Ooops posted one on its own G.

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rose-002.ai

[Gordon Forbes]

Tanahhhh Tanaaaahh

Right on the button I,ve gotta try this one .

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

As i said Nik In only supplied the vinyl but I gotta fix the rest of the mistakes.
Rob I know the shadow looks black but is in fact anthracite (751).

I had no option on colour choice the client chose them and that was it.

Same with the fonts. I suggested some alternative colours thats what he chose.

The Tractor Unit actually won a first prize at the Peterburgh Truck show and to see it for real it is really nice same as the trailer the pictures don’t do it justice here

His opinion was that he didn’t want fonts with Roman style caps or anything like that. He wanted something away from the traditional as he thinks that type of fonts are old fashioned and he wanted to get away from it which I feel he has achieved as it does look really smart in the flesh as it were.

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

Its just the photo that makes the flags look black Jill it is as you spotted the letters on the compass he put the north and south on back to front the Smith is just an effect of the photo as well.
I take it you don.t like the style of the font then?

[Gordon Forbes]

Not exporting as CYMK are you ??

[Gordon Forbes]

Got that earlier big window saying that explorer sumthin.

Give me your email addy an I will send it to you if you like.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Try these should do

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[Gordon Forbes]

Well we can see by your avatar where the rest of the pizza is Heh heh,

Point an shooot for the camera same as all the rest.

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

As far as I’m aware all he does is fit. This place is producing around 30 fridge vans a week and they have four places one near you one in Ireland and 2 down south bin told they are the biggest manufacturers in Europe alegedly I don’t know if this is true or not.

The owner of the truck doesn’t seem to phased by it not happy but not the screamin ab dabs neither he’s gonna have words wi the salesman apparently who unfortunatley is on holiday while his van is being done

(chat.) Well find out tomorrow.

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

I am the same always seem to apply on my own and the hinge method is for me far the best and easiest way more control I feel.
and so far always dry.

[Gordon Forbes]

Mmmm I think it’s called GREED

[Gordon Forbes]

I think it was more to do with the way I uploaded it.
I clicked preview first I never usually have probs it came up with the list of file types you are allowed to load.

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

This any good??

wont let me upload keep gettin an error

wot’s your addy an I send it cartoon type though.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Welcome aboard from me to just ditto ditto on all the above said from me 2

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

Me being Scottish and honestly not being biast at all!
When you look at their performance on the whole they simply on the night were not good enough

All Scotland not qualifing comments will be totally ignored in advance thanks

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

Agree with Brushman.
How many other software suppliers do this service that you suggest Outline.

Your constant slagging of signlab is sounding like a stuck record.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

wouldn’t let me upload eps files for some reason so in Illustrator 7 format

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

or this

Goop

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[Gordon Forbes]

Try these.

There was a post a few weeks ago bout a cartoon site with .ai and eps files look it up pretty good

Goop

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[Gordon Forbes]

CELLULOSE now there is an eye opener.

Takin a chance usin that stuff ain’t you. I know its all 2 pack acrillic paints etc nowadays but I still wouldn’t wipe with cellulose thinners pretty potent stuff.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

man U got 2 much time on your hands

I’ve gotta say it sure it wasn’t URA??? you were going to ???

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Where does this Dr Evil come from then??

Really nice Steve as always you produce quality work Thanks for sharing.

Goop.

[Gordon Forbes]

You Got Mail maybe or You gone MAD!!!

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Well I am using Signlab V6.1 revision 16 and I must say whats all the bugs etc etc.
When printing to a PC600 I dont have problems only with colour matching but that seems common with all programs as you never get what you see on screen.

Runs a D60 with no probs even prints to 1290.

I can run really big files through Signlab without a noticable degradation in speed, big bitmaps slow it down but then you can just change the settings.

Updated faultlessly to no probs

As to the post cant you import from Illustrator save as .eps or .ai and it should come in.

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

You can get blanks from Xpress

sorry Nigel

Goop

[Gordon Forbes]

Think I posted this a few weeks ago but here you go

Goop

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[Gordon Forbes]

right click and hold the button down and tap the spacebar once and see if that does the trick thats the way to get round images that have been disabled from saving don’t know about gifs though

[Gordon Forbes]

Got it sussed right click on image save target as and it saves the gif where you specify

Hope thats what u wany

[Gordon Forbes]

OK C what U mean

ooopppss

[Gordon Forbes]

I don’t get the same problem get the choice where it says .bmp press the arrow and I get gif or bmp have you tried that??

Goop