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Amazing how a typical sleazy London street can be so lovely when you take away the grime and bad signage, and put in a bit of style. (And money, I suppose.)

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The cutting was very well aligned for the smaller batches Andy. Thats a good plan, if I can get it to work properly.
I suppose your workaround makes sense, as it was looking about 20mm short of the actual mark.

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Well. I laminated these stickers and put them back in the machine to cut. The versacamm found the first group, and cut them well, and then moved on to the second lot but couldn’t find the marks. So I had to manually line it up for each group, until all were done. I must have missed something crucial. I will try it again this week.

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Thanks Andy, I just got your email.
Very informative and well written, even I can understand it!
And as a bonus, the print and cut alignment – something I never knew I had!

Simon.

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Thanks for the kind offer Andy. Now I have no idea how to PM…DOH! I suppose one is not allowed to post ones email on the boards.?

Anyway, in the interim I have been spending some time (Hours?) trying to figure this thing out, I have got as far as printing a bunch of stickers in groups with the cutting marks. I will laminate them after the weekend, and then try the contour cutting.

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We do quite a few marquees with logos on them for a local manufacturer. We cut out stencils using oracal oramask, and spray paint them using screen printing inks.

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I am completely confused as to how to use the "Page space"or what page – or space – it refers to. I have set up 20 stickers of 250mm by 105mm as a tryout, and want to divide them into four groups of five. . I don’t understand how to do this.

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Craig
I know this is not exactly a design issue, but could you possibly lose the word "Solutions"? The very sight of that word makes me cringe, and you see it so much these days…check out the dreadful language of the 3M website for further examples…

Simon.

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Advice, Chris. 😕

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The one thing for me that makes Oracal stand out above the rest is that if you order 1220 wide you actually get 1260mm, and you can use four feet of vinyl and still have room for the pinch rollers.

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Go straight to the hire company
Offer to install banner frames like Rob suggested, on all their vehicles.
Go round to all their regular customers, including your guy, and offer to make up inserts to fit the frames.
Win win.

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The width needs to be at least 1370mm plus a bit for that size material
The length – as long as your workshop can hold.
The height – I am "1800mm high, and I find a 1000mm height perfect for standing. This is trial and error.
Materials – I have a 10mm toughened glass top. It is clean, flat, you can cut directly on it, and you can put a light under it to show up layers.
And it doesn’t scratch an unlaminated print moving face down.

And can someone please tell me what are those random yellow highlights that keep appearing in my text on this forum?!

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Andy the 250 was a single job, I dont know anything about custom cuts. Neither do I know what you mean by Automatic print and cut alignment. Isnt that what it usually does? (Rather, tries to do)

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David it is best to follow the advice of Groucho Marx.
"I would never join a club that would have me as a member"

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yesterday I cut 250 credit card sized stickers on 3m IJ35.
I did an env match before printing, and again before cutting,
In addition, cut and up move was slowed right down to 5cm/sec. I got this result.
The cuts remained perfect in the left right direction, (Due to the environment match? but began to track off in the feed direction – but only on the right hand side of the machine. After six rows of stickers, the bleed limits were starting to be reached – 2mm.
I paused and firmly pulled on the vinyl only on that side, until the material rested 2mm further on. It was surprisingly easy to make the vinyl slip through the pinch rollers.
Then I unpaused, and the cuts continued for another 6 rows, again veering off on the same side.
I repeated until the whole sheet was done.

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Dave you can never over estimate how important it is to have a good workspace! Clean, warm, dry! Well done Mate!

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Aha! I have found out that it is Photoshop that doesnt do blacks…it tries to make them into "rich blacks" that print somewhat greenish, so even with DENSITY CONTROL ONLY in versaworks, it follows the photoshop colours.
I imported the same file into illustrator, removed the colour, and used that file instead and got proper black and white.

As you were, chaps!

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Hi
I was looking for info on how to print no colour at all, and found this thread. However it has no conclusion.
Does anyone know how to print ONLY black in versworks, SP540V?

Thanks.

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Respect.

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I like it Andre!

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Gert. I am prepared to cut these by hand. Still I dont think I am wasting my time putting it out there. Thanks.
Fabrice, Martin, if anything 5mm is optimistic over that size of cut. My printer has always had this problem, and the workaround has always been to cut small numbers of stickers at a time and cross fingers.
I have had a techie look at it, and he seemed to think it was acceptable, although he charged me money to tell me that.
There was a thread going about this on the boards a while back, but nobody had any answers, although a number of people had the same issue.
I seems to be specially bad on the sp540/300, and worse, it is so inconsistent that there is no real workaround.
David, Gary the car is silver, so no real hope there.
Martin, by the "clamps" do you mean the pinch rollers? I will check them when i get into the shop. However this has been a problem since the machine was new, so I dont think that would be it. Maybe the rollers have a pressure adjustment I didnt know about? It would explain a few things if they are slipping a bit.

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I would say the best way to learn is to do it for real.
And dont charge any less for the job.
Just go about ten times slower, plan your moves ahead, have the instructions taped to the window of the vehicle you are wrapping, and replace anything that you mess up. Give the customer a VERY long turnaround time – that way you have time to fix your mistakes.
You will, of course, be working for a very low hourly wage, or even a negative one if you make that many mistakes!
I have done nine wraps since I did my 3m course. The first one took three weeks.
I use 3m ij 380, and I would not use any other make for a wrap.
The biggest problem I had was getting those pesky door handles back on the car.

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Well its printing now, and it would appear that it is as I thought! Pure cmyk coming out of the nozzles! Ive never managed to get that before.
I threw in a few pantone colours for good measure, and they are closer than I have ever managed to get them. And the fade I was having trouble with has no green in it.
This setting is my new best friend
Thanks Richard!

Simon.

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Richard

Ive never known what that setting meant before.

I have now got a long banner printing, but once that is done I will give it a go. Hmmm, interesting. I have done a few searches for density control only to see what comes up. From what I understand, this setting gives you complete control over the colours as to what you input in the design stage, without any colour "correction" from Roland…?

I am speculating here, but if you make a file in Illy, with a square coloured, say, cmyk 20, 30, 40, 50, you will get the ink actually firing at cmyk 20,30,40, and 50?

I Cannot wait to try it!

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Damian
Denise is onto something…
I use Oracal 551 clear over oracal 3551 rapidair all the time. Works perfectly well and gives a thicker and more protective cover.

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Is it obviously looking for them Damian? It will track slowly right to left across the work, and come back again if it misses the marks. If that’s the case you have set it up right.

Have you put the crop marks where it can find them? I find the best way is to press the left arrow so the head comes out to the zero position, and line up the first mark with the cutter holder, so on its first pass it passes directly and centrally over it.

If it misses it the first time over, it is quicker to stop, line it all up again, and start again, than to let it continue searching. For this you have to turn off the primary switch and set up again – as far as I am aware there is no other way to abort this process.

Make sure the first crop mark is not to the right of the first pinch roller, even slightly, or the machine will ignore it.

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Yeah, I have found that sometimes the chinagraph marks dont come off completely, specially on older white vehicles, so the only way to remove the mark is T-cut!
Those water soluble ones are far safer.

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Damien

In Versaworks
open settings.
MARK
Check CROP MARKS (PRINT AND CUT ALIGNMENT.)

PRINTER settings
PRINT ONLY

In LAYOUT, make sure it does NOT centre on the media.

Now you are ready to print.

When it prints, it wont cut. It will print four black circles, with some other stuff.
Make sure you leave about 100mm at the end of the print for the rollers when you cut off the roll.

Once you have laminated it, put it back in the printer, the same way it went in.
Line up the first black circle (with the rectangle) next to the blade holder.

In versaworks, go to Printer settings
CUT ONLY

click the print tab, and watch the print carriage search for the crop marks. It will go from one to the other to set out the limits of the work, then it will plot your lines.

That is it.
I hope I havent left anything out. I am sure someone will say if I have!

Simon.

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Tim
I think that is called type 3!

Simon.

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Just went to 110%. As the surface passed about 100 it shined up like magic.

Thanks Derek.

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Derek

I will try a section. Thanks.

Simon.

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Cutting through it is the easy part. You can do that with a stanley knife and breaking it, as Hugh says. Its getting the knife to go straight thats the problem.
I always leave an extra mm or two to tidy it up with the hand plane.

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I recently applied two large printed sides to a recently spray painted trailer. As I was installing them, using 3m ij380, a small patch of the paint came off. Underneath was galvanised metal.
I pointed this out to the customer, and he accepted he had sprayed the trailer himself without the use of etch primer, having been advised he didnt need it by a paint "specialist"

He asked me to finish applying the stickers as best I can, accepting it was fully his responsibility and absolving me of any blame whatsoever.

Last week he came back – the paint had fallen off in ugly patches all over the trailer – except where the stickers protected it. He asked me if I could cover the rest with vinyl.
I refused to waste his money this way, told him to have it stripped down completely, and start again.

My question is this. Does galvanised metal need treatment before vinyl can be applied directly to it, or can I offer to wrap it completely instead of his getting it resprayed first?
It would probably be cheaper for him just to cut out the middleman, and wrap the whole thing.

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Just out of interest, having never even seen a flatbed plotter, what is the advantage of one of these over the other kind of plotter?

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Stuart I think your biggest problem is to get decent pink light out of LEDs. You might have to go neon if the budget allows.

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I want one!

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And what Phill said!
Cant say I even knew about that clamp! Makes sense!

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Phillip
I have moved my sp540v twice now. I left everything intact, wheeled it out the door, onto a tail lift truck, which was driven carefully to destination.
The warranty became instantly invalid, but on the next service visit from the techie he re-validated it. The only thing to watch is those pesky 440 cartridges – put the short ones in for peace of mind. I wouldnt leave them out – drying or contamination would worry me more than physical damage with leaving them in.

Good luck!

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Karl Williams wrote:
Dave Rowland wrote:
that teach u for having 20 domain names

You ever thought of writing your own book on grammar and spelling Dave?

It’s ‘Have you ever ……’ Mr Williams!

I think double quotation marks might be more correct, Mr Cleary!

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How do they do it at the supplier? I guess they have motorised spindles, but there must be a technique to start it off straight. It always arrives perfectly wound and tight.

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Thanks Ian.
I do that already. I check and double check that it is straight, line the edge with the roll, pull it tight away from the rollers, in fact everything to get it straight. Only then do I tape it. One single piece in the middle.
But it always goes off to one side.

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I bought an old building last year – great location, town centre etc, but the entire structure needs to be bulldozed and rebuilt, and the over 9000 recent earthquakes have knocked it about a bit. I want it to be all done by the end of the year.
I am working in it, and every time there is a quake the windows bow in and out like a soap bubble, and another crack appears
I have rented an alternative shop for the rebuild, and I have a builder and architect on the case. Now I just need to find the money(!)
Somewhere in all that there is a resolution!

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Very nice job to keep you occupied through the new year.
Well done!

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I have used boiling water for stripping panels flat on the bench and it works better than anything else Ive tried.
Ive Never used it for a vehicle though.
Some sort of hands free applicator would be good to get it where its needed. I imagine pouring it down the sides would be a bit random.

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Welcome Buddy, you are an asset to the boards.
Do you move the work over the hotwire or the hotwire over the work?

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I got a pair of these with my printer and still to this day have no idea what they are for…
😳

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I think I’ve cracked it!

Here’s how. It seems to work every time out of a sample of seven.

On the mac…

Open in NEO OFFICE (open source software free to download)

Export as .eps

it will export as version 10

PS My version of neo office is about four years old
I am not going to upgrade it as this might start saving as a later version and block off this workaround….

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Thanks for all the tips.
I think I will probably need to upgrade, if there is no workaround.
I have been asking customers for legacy versions, or pdfs, but they always forget and I feel quite embarassed asking for this from them.
I can’t expect them to remember this every time they deal with little old me, still living back in the days when Adobe was some kind of mud-based building product…

Robert I dont know how to find your email address.
Are they stored publicly somewhere on the forum?
When I click on your name I get a message that I cannot access profile information.

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This has taken me a while to figure what this stuff is, because I cannot find a description on that website Jason. 😳
Am I right it is tape imbedded with a fine wire that you pull from below the vinyl and it cuts cleanly through the vinyl?
What a great idea! I think I need to get me some of that!
Trimming is the trickiest thing about wrapping, and it gets almost zero coverage, certainly almost nothing was said about it on the course I did.

Simon.

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LOL Rob!

"and more staff still alive at the end of each shift."

:lol1:

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If each rung of the ladder is a foot then its only 247 feet up. (19 ladders)
Thats not unusual for open cast mines in western Australia, so no motive either.

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quote Hugh Potter:

on second thoughts, i think my initial thought about it being photoshopped is possibly right, look at the crane cable, it’s disjointed twice!

Thats the shadow Hugh!

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I love that carved wood stuff you guys do in in N America, Duncan. It is quite spectacular.

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It took me a while to realise you were wrapping from blue to white and not the other way round…!

Nice job.

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Paul
I have been through exactly the same problem with my SP540V. Here is the thread.

https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … highlight=

It was never actually resolved, but just seems to have gone away… The techies couldnt figure it out, they gave me all the software updates and spent hours on the phone with me. Worst thing was the randomness. The machine never stopped at the same point in the print, and it didnt always do it.

There might be some clues in the thread as to what exactly resolved the issue. I couldnt figure it out.

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Rob thanks for that info.
I’m starting to get it.
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Bob
Obviously this is quick and cheap with some drawbacks.
I had hundreds of corflute signs to do, quickly, so I had to find a better way than flood coating them all.
It works very well for corflute, which is very forgiving material.
The end of the banner vinyl gives no noticable step on corflute.
You could not use this to laminate clear.
But it gets better…
This video was made nearly two years ago.
Since then this has evolved into the following…
A 5 inch steel hydraulic pipe x1500mm machined to a perfect straight and round.
I had soft rubber applied to the outside by a specialist roller company.
Then I had a SOLID steel rod, almost full length, diameter to match the pipe, pushed inside.
The whole thing weighs about 160kg, which is enough pressure to perfectly laminate clear over printed vinyl. As long as it doesnt lose contact with the table.
With a flat glass table, its hard to go wrong. Anything else you take your chances.

Cost of roller and steel rod about one thousand of your earth pounds.

Simon.

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Thanks Otto

Actually I did remember seeing that post some time back, but I find the search function on this forum perplexiing.

That is exactly what I was looking for.

Simon.

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quote George Elsmore:

did you know that their is a guy in the background doing exactly the same! 😕

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The more rubbery the surface of the roller the better it conforms to a bad table

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Table 10mm glass toughened
Roll = inner from oracal vinyl. I chose the straightest I could find
Round it wrapped wasted banner vinyl – about 3 meters, glued at end.
Inside it drinks bottles that fit inner diameter filled with water, end to end.
The more weight, the more pressure.

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Ben
Your workshop looks really nicely laid out.
I think you can only produce work as good as yours out of a decent environment.
And you are obviously busy.
Thanks for posting that.
Simon.

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82. 😕

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This is the only way I know how to do it. If you start with a clear that has a white backing paper you can see how the print is looking before you commit to installing it.

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Quite.
So I must have something wrong with my system.
I have done google searches and come up with others having the same issue as me, but no solutions.

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Thanks but I think you misunderstand. Illy on the mac has no problem opening jpegs as new files, I can even drag them over the ai icon in the dock and they will open. but when I want to drag a jpeg onto the artboard of an existing file I am working on, then nothing.

I must open the file in illustrator, copy, switch windows to the file I want to place the file into, and paste – or I use the place function.

On the pc (xp) I can drag files right off the desktop, photoshop, or even off a website, and drop them where I want on the artboard in illustrator. The system simply knows what I am trying to achieve and responds positively.

This occurs with all files, illustrator and photoshop, on the mac. It is not a fatal problem, but it is certainly a major drawback, and very clumsy, when I am using a 13 inch screen, and I would have thought there would be fix for it.

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Have paid Brian, cheers to you for putting singles on your site so quickly. 😀

Simon

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Brian

Check your email

Simon

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Brian
I assume from what you said in your first post that the outline originated from you guys.
Send me the bill for a single outline and I am more than happy to pay you for it, since you are the licence holder.
That was my original intention.
I will not sign up to an entire subscription just for one outline though.
On that note, there is a company in australia called Fastcars who sell outlines singly. Why cant everyone do that? Cost is about 30 dollars each. Worth every penny to me, except their range is limited.
The company I currently subscribe to gives me almost unlimited downloads for a year – I might use it once a week. So I am subsidising the big guys who are downloading a dozen cars a day. Go figure. Interesting reading from Phil on this topic.

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Thanks everyone who responded so quickly –
Brian I have no idea how to find your email address from the boards.
Anyway I have been sorted out with this.
You guys are all legend!

Simon

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Praveen
One of the most overlooked things about under-sized cnc machines is that most materials that you are going to use come in 2440 by 1220 sheets.
This means that before you even start, you need to cut down the sheets, which I found a pain.
Some suppliers will cut sheets in half for you, but you will forget to ask sometimes when ordering, and some suppliers will not offer that option.

It didnt take me long to trade up from a benchtop shopbot to a full sized one for mainly that reason. I guess I was fortunate to have the space for it.

Simon.

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I dont know about you guys but I would never stick metal letters to a wall without fasteners of some sort, inside, outside or anywhere, no matter what the manufacturer of the glue or tape promised me. If I could not for some reason drill holes for them I would walk away from the job.
They will, eventually, fall.

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Hi John

One way to do it is to use VNC. Virtual Network Computing.
You can control all the actions of one computer remotely from another as long as both are on the internet or sharing a network.
REALVNC is one of many programs designed to make this quite simple to do, and there are free ones available that are a bit more painful to use.
A window opens up that is an exact representation of the desktop of the computer under control. So, you would sit upstairs and control the pc that is controlling the Roland.

Simon.

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On the strength of your recommendation Shane I have ordered a roll of changeable and laminate.
Did you notice any peel back at all from the edges of the material in general use?

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I’ve got to hand it to you guys! Being a wrapping newbie I cannot even begin to contemplate the control needed to wrap a car without the use of air release! Are there any videos on this?

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Classy!

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Nick I always cut the one – way a few mm smaller than the laminate, so the laminate sticks to the glass all round and protects the edges of the one – way. Never had a lifting problem that way.
You do get a clear margin all round though, which some might object to.
Simon

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Angelique I dont think your upload was successful, unless this is your way of saying that you havent come up with anything 🙂
Simon

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Thanks Shane.
That usually works, but some less dimensionally stable materials can get streaks of lighter print in the head direction where they have tracked through a bit too slow, resulting in a lighter band of print, unless you use the full compliment of rollers.
That pull up banner synthetic paper seems to be pretty bad for this.
The problem seems to be worst at the beginning of the print, and it fades out to nothing over 500mm or so. Normally I ditch the print and start again further up the roll, and the problem doesnt recur for that print. Maybe the material or the rollers have to warm up a bit…

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Way back when I lived in London I did the first thousand or so Addison Lee black MPVs, using white reflective in the rear window. John Griffin – the MD, was in a constant legal battle with the cab office for advertising, but he never got into trouble for the reflective thing.

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Yes Rob of course, Im thinking digitally printed.

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Thanks for your replies.
I am going to do a 3m wrap course next month. I wanted to know if one can expect a reasonable return for what you can charge for the job. Am I right in thinking a mini fully wrapped is normally about a grand (pounds) in the uk? Or is that on the low side?

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Has anyone tried printing flag material on an ordinary wide format printer, such as a roland sp540 or similar? I would be interested to see the results.

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Simon You little beauty! That worked.
Shift key while closing.
Ask a bunch of intelligent people, and you will get an answer!
Thank You!

Simon.

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Yeah Ten doesnt have that option Martin.
I know CS has some advantages, but I never took to it. Maybe I just fancy the Venus de milo on the start up window!

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I have had this problem from time to time, but always when printing banner material. I finally realised that the material was moving about. Very slight, but enough to show up as unpredictable light bands.
Now whenever I print banners I do it without the media clamps on the side, as they cause the material to bunch up slightly at the edges. And use all the pinch rollers.

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NOOOOO!

It is now happening on the mac as well. I have tried connecting the mac to the printer using a cable of less than 1 metre. Still, it quite often simply stops printing at a random point in the job. The printer appears to be waiting for more info from the computer, but the computer thinks it is all over – the turning cogs graphic has stopped. Again, check the jpb log, Unknown error. Thats it.

It seems so random, I cannot trace anything repeatable.

The techies have nothing. They stopped knowing anything at "update your software".
I would estimate that one in four jobs does this.

If anyone has anything to add to this, I would be eternally grateful….

Simon

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Macbook performed FLAWLESSLY!
AND that was over a wireless connection.
I guess I might use the mac until I get the PC geeked.

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I am going to get a pc upgrade, the geek says it runs best if you put in 3 internal hard drives, and they share the load. This way you get redundancy if one fails, but the speed of operation is apparently quite markedly different.
MEANWHILE i have a large picture of mountains to wrap all over the back of a half million dollar house bus, printed on silver vinyl.
I am going to print this using the macbook, running windows, because I cant afford this to fail half way through the print. It has to be perfect. I set it up with versaworks this morning, I have done a trial print and its fine, so off we go…

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Okay it happened again. This after a complete re installation and upgrade of software. And doing everything people have suggested on this thread.
Called Roland again, Roland techie now says to do a disk cleanup.
I did this, and then my computer, after many hours of looking like it was doing something, finally stopped and says it cant do this any more and I cant remember what the reason was.
Might be time to call in the geeks. Its probably my system. Im getting a few other things turning up, i.e. Illustrator cant save a file for some reason, but when I save as in another format, it seems to have no problem doing this.
I guess I have a lot of stuff in there. Still have 35 Gb of space left though.

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Okay it happened again. This after a complete re installation and upgrade of software. And doing everything people have suggested on this thread.
Called Roland again, Roland techie now says to do a disk cleanup.
I did this, and then my computer, after many hours of looking like it was doing something, finally stopped and says it cant do this any more and I cant remember what the reason was.
Might be time to call in the geeks. Its probably my system. Im getting a few other things turning up, i.e. Illustrator cant save a file for some reason, but when I save as in another format, it seems to have no problem doing this.
I guess I have a lot of stuff in there. Still have 35 Gb of space left though.

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Yes I unroll the banner when it prints. It just happened again while printing some canvas, and the print was only about 600mm long.

I am deleting the entire versaworks, and reloading a disk I got from roland nz.
This will be version 4. Hope for the best.

I have lots of ram, decent hard drive, I cant think of anything else. It gets expensive when it happens and is a real bummer.

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Hi Neil
Now using 4.1.1
Printer sp540v
Dunno which version I was on before. Duh! Dunno how to find out either.
Called Roland this mornin, did a re-initialise. However the techie had not encountered this problem before.
He is sending me a full CD of latest version ( I got mine from Roland website, including patches)
Hoping for the best. Ive saved the banner job, it was double sided 7 meters long…it stopped a total of four times in all during the print, I lined up where it stopped, and removed some of the design in Illustrator, and started again from the stop point. There is only a slight colour change where the mistake happened, I will give a small discount to the customer and It will be okay, the banner will fly quite high up.

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David your last point is the killer, the pinch rollers have to come before the print. I never thought of that.
Suppose you could only use 2 of them and print to avoid
Simon

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Thanks for the tip Mike.
That works okay, but it seems rather odd to design a machine which for all intents and purposes has a front and back, and then to only use it from the back.
Like disabling the forward gears in a ferrari. Whats the point of that?
On the PNC plotter there is an easy few clicks way of plotting from the front. Why not the printer? Surely there is a hidden menu in versaworks that allows exactly that.

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For anyone to say "I believe" in something means they haven’t got a clue what they are talking about.
They have simply taken a political decision to come down on one side or another of an argument.
We do have a problem of too many people using too small a world.
There is no fixing this until a population decline fixes it for us.
None of us have any idea of the truth of climate change, or what to do about it.
The irony is, Whenever governments try to fix something, the unintended consequences are always worse than the original problem.
For that reason alone, I would advocate doing nothing at all.

[Simon Worrall]

When I started, vinyl cutters were in their infancy and cost heaps.
Working in the near darkness, I used a swivel blade to cut out vinyl beneath a photographic projector, using fonts photocopied from old Letraset books onto clear acetate strips.

[Simon Worrall]

Hello fellow Simon’s.
I have found that you can trace most fonts in Illustrator in about six moves.
I once tried Adobe Streamline. It didnt work for me.

[Simon Worrall]

thanks guys, Ill take your advice and stick it up.

Simon

[Simon Worrall]

Kevin that looks like a good option, thanks for the tip.