Peter Mindham
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There are a number of products sold by most sign supply companies. Whatever you use, it is always a good idea to test a small piece of the acrylic to make sure that the remover doesnt react with it in any way.
Peter
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Do you know what the trim and safety area is exactly? In terms of definition of those terms?
Peter
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happy birthday Jill.
lots of kissespeter xxx
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Try multipanel Uk They supply a copper orange metallic colour composite which might do the trick.
They call it Forest Fire and it is really nice stuffPeter
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I like the cheaper repair idea Andrew.
Rodney, the model is a Laser Pro Mercury 30 watt machine. I have no experience working on this so I realise I am looking at a steep learning curve. Any help is greatly appreciated.Peter
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Hi Rodney, have not checked alignment yet. Can you suggest the best way to do this please4?
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Thanks I’ll check that later
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Best advice is watch it on tv in the bar mate.
ENJOY!!
Peter
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Cant help thinking of another media ‘mogul’ who went swimming with the fishes.
Somebody book Murdoch a cruisePeter
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The people who have committed crimes might deserve it Rob, but what about the innocent workers who may now find themselves out of a job. Do they deserve that.
I think not
Peter
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quote Phill Fenton:Even if you can make this in one piece – how will you transport it to the site and install it? You need to factor this into the cost also.
(Anything is possible providing the client is prepared to pay for the cost of what are often unrealistic expectations)
Quite right Phil. Plus install will always be more with at least two cherry pickers and operators or even scaffolding with permissions etc. This all adds up. Funny how the client can live with a join when he sees the estimate
Peter
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I still think a road trip is in order.
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I might grt modded on this as usual but you could PM me your details or post your number. I will call you then
Peter
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Black white and blue shirts for us.
Black, white, red, pink and blue material.
We have built up a good stock of flex over the years so can cover most requirements. We have also built up a stock of shirts and colours also.It took a while but it is now a case of replenishment as opposed to start up.
Peter
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David,
You seem to be talking yourself out of garment supply.
The initial cost for stock really is minimal. As has been said, 2 – 3 hundred pound investment would give you a nice inventory of shirts / hoodies etc. Storage is really not that bad unless you are working in your box room at home. Even then, they don’t take up that space.
Anyone who gets a van liveried with us gets a free t shirt with sharp pricing for further orders.It works
Peter
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We have a local metal fabricator who makes larger trays for us in Aluminum.. He can weld and then finish so the weld is invisible. Main problem is finding one with an oven big enough for powder coating. You might have to paint to give you a base colour.
Have a look for local fabricators. Not cheap but if this is what the client wants, he will have to pay.Peter
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Graham, speed is an issue. We also travel to shows on behalf of our clients and supply branded goods on site for delegates, consumers etc. The DTG machines we looked at did not lend themselves to being moved around in an exhibition trailer from point to point. ALL the companies we talked to indicated they could do this, but when pressed, they would not categorically promise it could be done.
Our daily rate is lower than yours but we could be producing large numbers over the course of a weekend. Staff to weed cost a great deal less than potential costs and headaches caused by the DTG option.
I really would like to have one but cannot justify the expense. I would rather replace the JV3 at this time.Peter
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We have been considering the DTG dilemma ourselves. I cannot make the numbers work. The quantity needed to make it pay in a reasonable time makes it more viable to produce in screen format. I understand the low volume short run advantages of the concept but feel that the transfer quality from some of the suppliers is pretty good now. Yes you need to contour cut and weed but this is a small price to pay for reasonably low cost per shirt and the massively lower cost of entry. DTG machines are expensive and temperamental. Not a mass production machine yet.
|Just my opinion and experience tho 🙂
Peter
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Use both the oracal and metamark. The oracal is a bit more conformable and is easier to fit. Our printer (JV3) prints perfectly onto this. not totally opaque so the reflectiveness still works.
Peter
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It is easy for us to undervalue our time and experience. But we paid to get the experience and our time is as valuable as the next person. You have a greater value than you might think Lorrainne and need to charge accordingly. If you lose them to cheaper competitors perhaps you didnt need them anyway.
Take the £50.00 and the sign and move on wiser from the experience.
Don’t lose sleep over it now, the ex customer is not worth it.
Peter
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Ive used it loads Warren. The carbon fibre is excellent. Talk to Sott there. Expensive tho 😕
Give me a call if you want to know morePeter
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Have to agree with Jill. You cannot rely on trust these days. Even long established companies will stiff you. Its partly the economy and partly the way the world is changing. There is little respect shown to others by people and it is reflected in all walks of life. Don’t get me started on this rant 😕
Deposit, signed approval payment on delivery. ALWAYS.
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Can you PM me your details
Cheers
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thanks for the intro robert, much appreciated mate
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If you send it to Andrew Ritchie he can vectorise that for you. Not expensive and great quality and service. Did a couple for me recently and they were perfect.
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Fantastic work there. Are you creating the visuals digitally or by hand?
They look stunning
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welcome to the boards mate, great to have you here
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I see a road trip ahead! How about a signboards trip. We can stay at the pub for the weekend camping etc and we can all go visit the shop together. Make up a few placards etc. I think it will work.
Whos up for a party at Lorraines!!Peter
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Hi Adam welcome to the boards.
Petermod-edit
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Graphityp also do them
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As John rightly says. The chinese products can work well but need much time, effort and patience to get them running. John has great experience in that arena so is talking with some knowledge.
We have a Laserpro which was supplied new by Graphityp. Talk to Nigel there. Thing is, Lasers are limited when it comes to metals. Any anodised or coated metals are fine but many stainless or polished cannot be done without some preparation. Having said that, our engraver is used every day and has paid for itself within 12 months. It has a steep learning curve and we are learning its capabilities everyday.£4000 wont get you a new machine I suspect
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Most window film is wet fit so no problem there. As with most jobs, preparation is the key. there are some videos on the boards or u tube to help you with the process. I buy my stuff from doro tape although there are a number of people to go to
Peter
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Hi 4
yes i have one. what do you plan on doing if you buy one?
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Hi there,
are you fitting this yourself?Peter
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Interesting Hugh. The amazing thing is that I only did it about 30 minutes before the deadline because a relative had sent some money for my daughter. So we decided to spend it on that. I was shocked to get them really.
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If the design is really tight to the edge of panels i will always measure to be sure. I have done many designs and relied on the drawings for sizing as long as they are not too close to the edges of the panels etc. The impact outlines are the best in my opinion but as good as they are, they are not 100% accurate. I think you will find Brian would agree that they are pretty close but if measurement is critical, go measure the vehicle!!
Peter
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Yes it was a long drawn out process. I only applied for two tickets for the ladies hockey final for myself and my daughter. So I suppose I was lucky to get just two
It was a farce as I could have used our address in France and purchased tickets really easily.
Still, were on our way!
Peter
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Interesting site.
Something else to keep me away from working!
Peter
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Try Doro Tape
Good range and prices. In stock with next day deliveryPeter
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Try Google.
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Hear Hear. A legend.
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welcome to the boards sam, great to have you here.
What part of cambs are you from?
Peter
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Bob
Have you looked at any tutorials on the internet. You can find the answers there quite quicklyPeter
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Put it up in your shop my friend.
It gives the clients a great message!Hope to be down in the next month. Ill let you know we can have a natter.
I like the pic. Keep it up there you look wise and worldly 🙂
Sorry to hijack this Nick ill get me coat
Peter
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Nothing wrong with the name Jason.
Could be worse though 😀All the girls loved this Jason
http://zeigermann.com/cartoonist/1970/0 … 94954-gmt/
Peter
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Fit with laminate for sure every time.
If its on composite it suggests it will be there for some time. If not, should have been corex to start with?Sign in my shop copied from a friends auto shop.
You can have:
CHEAP AND FAST = NOT GOOD
CHEAP AND GOOD = NOT FAST
FAST AND GOOD = NOT CHEAP.Live by these rules and you will be O.K. 😀
Nice picture Martin.
Peter
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welcome to the boards Nalu, great to have you here!
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This for you Harry because you put up a picture of a cute Puppy.#
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Did you drag and drop or copy and paste via windows?Peter
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I agree with Rob. I would have thought if they are new boxes and chassis, it would be better for the client to have the boxes painted to match. You could then livery them afterwards. With the best will in the world, you may face problems later with this. If it were my client, I would recommend paint and then livery.
Just my opinion
Peter
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If we use it, we apply the remover to the rag and apply it that way.
Peter
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Nate,
As has been said, wrapping is a tricky business until you get a few vehicles under your belt. It is a good idea to practice on your own vehicle to begin with. Problem is you can waste LOADS of time and material trying to get it right. Working in the dark as it were. Try and make the effort to get on a course. They range from 2 to 3 hundred pounds upwards and are worth the investment. I would suggest a few months experience honing your basic skills before attending a course however. Have you been fitting vinyl long as this is important for you to grasp some of the techniques?Good luck though as it is very satisfying to wrap a vehicle.
Peter
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Its the only chance to see some quality cricket these days 😀
Peter
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Try dorotape
http://www.dorotape.co.ukPeter
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Talk to Arron below. Great service and turnaround also.
Arron Woollard
Tel : 01480 861678Peter
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Yes I agree with you also. Perhaps my comment was a bit general. I know from experience however that it is difficult to compete with some of the auction site vendors as they use cheap materials and cut corners. Unfortunately for the coinsumer it is too late when they have spent the money and received inferior goods. I know we meet that challenge in all businesses, but I feel to do it right, the investment is needed and it can be a long slog to make a profit. I do accept it can be done of course.
I wish I was making 5k a month on my sales of wall art however!
Peter
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Simon,
I think the answer has already been given to you. The considered opinion of those that have posted is that you cannot do an acceptable job with the equipment you have suggested. Solvent print is the only way to go. There is no cheap way to produce quality.I am in this business and I can assure you that you will not be able to compete on price or quality by using the equipment you propose.
If new is out of your budget, you can find used kit with warranty from any of the suppliers listed on this forum. Additionally, they will sell you a service contract which will cover any breakdowns you are likely to experience. Failing that, you could find a local printer who could print your work for you until you can afford a new machine.
As a footnote, if you are thinking you can make a living just selling wall decals, you might be in for a surprise. You will need to augment your income with other work. This fact just supports the choice of a solvent cut and print machine over any other.Good Luck in your business venture.
Peter
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luvverly stuff Martin. As always, jealous of your skills.
I bet the client was really happy
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it comes with any package you might buy from some of the number plate consumable suppliers or just do what we all had to do and buy it from one of the font vendors on the inter net
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Laser Charles Wright
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My own recommendation would be mimaki with the fine cut plug in for illustrator.
Peter
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quote Glen Mathers:Hi Peter, i use Vector Magic, can’t you post the image on here to see if anyone can do it for you, i’ll put it through Vector Magic and see if the results are any good for you?
Thanks Glen
but it is quite confidential at this time so would prefer not to do that.Peter
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Thanks Rob,
Had used Andrew before but could see the link either. I will send a file over for him to look at.peter
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Hi Warren. I use a local metal fabricator to make mine. Half the price and easier to deal with. Have a look around as I am sure you will have one local.
Peter
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I hope they paid up front and not on account for the work 😕
Peter
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Hi Mo
word of advice if its your first catering van. If its been used, allow loads of time for cleaning as in my experience, these things are covered in grease and chip fat. It takes much longer to get them ready for graphics. First one I ever did cost me money as it took three hours to get it clean!Just a thought
Peter
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😀 😀 😀
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Hi Chris it is a problem. We use a bean bag or bean seat, the type you just throw on the floor. It is sometimes as I am sure you know, a two man job, just for what seems to be a stupidly small panel. That’s where the additional cost mounts up as you have two to pay for.
I’m working with a local metalworker in fabricating some type of adjustable jig that we can attach the panels to and hopefully wrap them that way. I’ll keep you posted.
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Try Doro tape
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Yes I don’t mind the smaller bits as they are a challenge. The tanks can be a nightmare. I know of people who wrap them in one but many need two or three pieces.
I love doing them but you never get the real amount for the time spent.
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Thanks Martin.
It was a bit daunting but it actually went quite well. As with most motorcycle tanks, they can be a bit difficult to wrap in one piece. This tank had three pieces but we were able to hide them on curves etc. Much harder to do these small fiddly panels than a bonnet!We have done a few now though so are in the groove. We love wrapping bikes.
coming your way next month so will try to drop inPeter
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As Jill stated, I got the hat from her.
Yes i’m a Penns fan but have a little soft spot for the wings (sorry Jill).
Hope they can pull it back tho
😕Peter
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welcome to the boards mate, great to have you here.
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I am sure I won’t be speaking out of turn if I tell you that I know the family would be touched by all the comments.
Although I haven’t been in touch with them for 11 months, I still hold them dear to me. I think of John every day at least once or twice and miss him a great deal. Life moves on and I know he would have something to say to me now to the effect of ‘get on with it and stop mooching around.’
I do, but it is difficult to do with so much still to get over. Time will help us all, and as silly as it sounds, I read his texts to me quite often and usually end up having a good laugh as he had such a good insight to life and the people who he shared his with on a day to day basis.I lifted a glass to him last night and shed a tear.
Peter
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That could work.
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Im not that qualified to say. If it was me, I would leave it for a while at least until the fan has stopped. It might kick in by then. Once they get up, there are a few Mac people on here who will be much more help than me!
Peter
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No. Look at the advice. Perspex not the best material for this. Any reason it was used. What type of sign is it? What’s on it? Could you use Di Bond? Many questions but little info given. Can you give more info to help with advice?
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That should do it. I can only sat when my powerbook is working harder, the fan comes on and it slows down until it ‘catches ‘up. Not much help i’m afraid.
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Sounds as if the Mac is working hard. What are the specs? Is there enough RAM etc to run bigger print jobs?
Just a thought
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couldn’t agree more Rob. The water mark is useful when the reflective is used as it is intended. When its being used as an integral part of a design not so good. As this application is not to conform with traffic regulations but merely as an aesthetic addition, I will be using the most conformable without the water mark. Like the sound of easy strippability though!
Peter
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Sounds interesting Chris. I assume this is also printable?
Where is the watermark and what size does it come in if you don’t mind me asking?Peter
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Hi Rod,
This is just for looks. It will serve no purpose in terms of the road traffic act at all.Thanks
Peter
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These signs sell really well.
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Lotus Cortina? One of the most famous out there. Or have a look at the gold leaf colours.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=gold+l … 72&bih=641
Gold Leaf is very striking and iconic. It will grace my MX-5 when the restoration is finished.
Peter
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We tend to charge a flat fee for basic design work. We then tell the client if he goes ahead with the work we will deduct the design fee from the final amount. This helps a little as we do not give a final price until the artwork is finalised. We also make sure the client understands we own the drawings and content at all times and that they are copyrighted.
It is easy to get caught this way as the need for work is always present. I think you have to set your terms out up front and abide by them. You might lose the odd client but it is worth it as the ones you keep know your terms and become good clients.
Just my take on it all.
Peter
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Thanks everyone for the replies. I need about 20 metres so will probably go with the Metamark printable reflective and print a grey wash and the cut out text as needed.
Thanks for the offer Chris but I need quite a bit.
Thanks again all
Peter
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Sorry but I dont agree with discount just to keep him happy.
Either:
The print is acceptable so he should pay the price and install it.
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The print is not acceptable so he should return it and get a refund.
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The print is unacceptable so return it, get it done to his specs and he pay the price for the higher spec.If its installed, then it was acceptable. If they installed it, surely they would have realised it was not in one piece?
You perhaps should have explained the two options to him before taking the job and the deposit.
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Thanks George
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Perfect Phil. The customer has approved this new logo this morning. Apparently the NHBC logo is now a rectangle with a tick over the letters N and H if anyone has this.
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Hi Gary thanks for the help.
Hope you are wellPeter
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Nice one Kev. Simple but to the point. Sometimes clients must understand they are responsible adults who have to admit they make mistakes sometime.
Thanks for posting.
Peter
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welcome to the boards Darren, good to have you here mate.
Peter
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welcome to the boards Glen, good to have you here mate.
Peter
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I’m with Dave.
Fill it in and get them to fill the top section in. They might not be as enthusiastic if they think they might share responsibility. Seems like a glorified risk assessment to me. I usually put a risk assessment together for the job and submit that with a copy of my liability insurance certificate. Usually does the job.Could be a conspiracy tho’ Phil 😕
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welcome to the boards Alan, good to have you here mate.
Peter
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Condolences to his family.
There will be a few glasses raised to too many people at this years sign show.
Peter
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quote Turk Erhamza:quote Peter Mindham:Amari do a product from Arlon. DPF 8000. It sticks like you know what to a blanket. Expensive though and only comes in 720 x 1200 I think although they will split it for you.
Peter
The 8000 should be 1370mm x 50yards, unless they cut is down after they get it. Great product; perfect for that application.
Mactac and 3m have a similar product. Radecal signs and graphics just went with some of the Mactac for the side of their building and it turned out great.
Use wall-wrap or engineering grade film when searching for these products.
Correct I get it cut down to two widths, expensive stuff as they wont split it without selling you the whole roll
Peter