Tim de Beir
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Nope brand new units, also as the sign showed only 3 months old… if glued there is not much surface for mounting it onto? Frame is only contour I guess…
Size 4 metres x 1,4 metres so weight is also an issue.
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Use sandpaper 400 or 500 to smoothen everything but you will have paint damage afterwards!
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For wat it’s worth I use the Orajet High Tack 3105 or 3106, no pre-treat needed and sticks as hell, it is also printvinyl so 2 for 1!
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Hi there, I also have my workspace heated by long range infrared heaters, 4 each 4000 watts.
The great advantage is that it does not heat the air, but the objects placed under it, so for me ideal for wrapping because when heating a van, the metal warms up from top to nearly bottom. The hang at around 4 metres above the ground…Brand is Thermelec
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Indeed I have picked these samples too, had ASLAN reference as well, but they do not produce that certain reference anymore :(. The 3M is very very expensive and I have half of the roll as lost material.
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It’s a common problem with monomeric vinyl, I can’t use monomeric and deep dark colours for printing…
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Both are 3M 1080, the green is pineapple matt metallic I think… colour shifts from dark green to light green in sunlight! Had doubt about the colour first when client chose this one but came out great!
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Too bad the lifespan of these materials is very short 3/6/12 months depending on the brand.
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I have a latex 360 and do not use monomeric vinyl too much problems with laminating dark prints > prints shrink, bubbled surface etc.
I also have to feed approx 25inch of material before print if not material will get stuck inside printer with printhead carrier error… for smaller printjobs a absolute no go printer 🙂
I only use the Orafol range: 3651 for intermediate vinyl, 3551 for polymeric, 3951 for wrap
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3M also has a primer vinyl wich can be wrapped onto non-painted plastic surfaces!
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wauw the speed of that machine must be incredible, because I am now already impressed with the speed on printing on 8-10 pass…
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I run 8 meter jobs without pannelling without takeup…
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I use caldera…
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Hi Dan, last year in december I have purchased myself a latex 360. Caviar Graphics is a one-man-show and short delivery is one of the advantages…
For example a client called me if it was possible to wrap the side of a cooled tent, only problem job had to been done within 2/3 days… printend the 95 sqm in approx. 6 hours at high quality, direct laminated the whole thing and only 5 hours later drove 400 kms to france for the application!
The printer has nog 2300 sqm done, second set printerheads, and last set was not needed, but when you have job with 100 sqm in one run you don’t want a printhead that suddenly drops dead 🙂
Startup is really really fast, inks pretty cheap – for me the 360 is like a desktop printer that just works!
Oh and you should really do a print with a flat colour, for a few meters, no lines of whatsover no pixelling, no stained print, but realy smooth colours!!
A plus is that I can monitor the hp one my iphone when i am away eating and the printer is running or when i go home and started a 8 hours printjob, I can follow everything on my iphone!
have a look at my facebook page to see the various projects done with the 360 (search for caviar graphics on fb)
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another question, you print with overlap and then cut the vinyl I suppose?
I ask you this because I have a painter thats wants his prints done by my, but he insists in not have prints with overlaps, but cutting straight is even harder to find border against border – I already told him that was almost unpossible 🙂 -
very nice work, a lot of murals, wich materials do you use for the murals?
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different media means different colours, because other white colour of printvinyl and laminate…
I am very happy with the Orajet 3951GRA, has a very strong glue and I like this specially for Mercedes Sprinters with the deep recesses…I have rather stronger glue, so it will stick even after little stretch! Changed from 3M onto Oracal, because the 3M is much more sensitive to surrounding temperature also!
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here only Xpel as by far in my opinion the best, even on guarantee and orange peel effect is nearly visible!
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Hmmm I’ve got these Numbers from the belgian gouvernement… Okay I’ll keep you posted!
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great job, looks perfect! perhaps plastidip the rear door ‘attachments?’ in black?
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I have to be honest that I if would work a bit faster, the wrap could be done in approx. 30 hours perhaps less, but I am selfemployed, love the job and for wrapping do take it a bit easier 🙂 when wrapping – this was also the car from a good client of me so have charged less 🙂
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An extra + is that I can buy the 3M wrap vinyl for a very very good price = nearly 500 euros ex vat for complete roll… 25meters
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Hi martin,
The dodge ram was etimated on 2500 euros, the client asked some extras (windowtinting, dipping external lights, changing the wrap on the hood, and also wrapping of the trunk cover) so we ended at nearly 4000 euro ex taxes!
The camaro was etimated on 1500 euros but this wil be 1750 euros (because of the existing striping) with an extra 230 euro for the garage (de/montage parts)
All prices are fixed so clients know what the shall pa
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Thx for the comments, wrapping itself did took around 40 hours…
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Hi Steff, summa is sold after 10 days, enjoying THE new s2 🙂
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Hi Philip, all the benches are custom made, they measure 3,5 x 2 m each with glass plate in one pieces so no seams when applying application tape.
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The HP is the best choice for me, instant dry, short term delivery, perfect colour when printing flat colours and excellent black/white images!
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@ Robert, I know but this is longwave infrared, and not the shortwave infrared that glows red when heating – and so very difficult for keeping the right temperature. They just enough for metal temperature at 19-20 °C, can’t get it warmer! 🙁
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Up between 6.15/6.30 work 8-13 (lunch) 13.30-19.00, then office work; designing lettering making offers untill midnight.
Friday stopping at 18h (girlfriend) always working on saturday (8-18h)
Sunday wake up and then 8-10 = invoices
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Hello Robert,
I have a question, printer will be installed in a storage unit, where I install everything. The first Floor is approx. 100sqm, and i was wondering if I should not make an room in the office room.
HP advises 15degrees temperature for area where THE printer is standing, but i am afraid that in THE weekend in full winter temperature could drop in THE weekend at just 7 degrees…
How do you handle THE room temperature for THE 360?
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Signed the offer for a 360 today 🙂
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Thank you for your thoughts Robert appreciate it, the 360 is a little over budget 🙁 do find THE extra 5000 euro lots of money for the benefits iT has upon 330…
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Hi Lionel, looking at the cracking i am pretty sure that it is thermal issue!!
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Hi Macky,
What price range? I am looking to buy one now (second hand) I am from Bruges Belgium 🙂
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Just recieved confirmation from clients he wants his Carrera 4s also being wrapped :appl:
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spandex has its own etch on 160cm 😉
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Thx Aaron, Robert!
Printer used: HP L26500 and i am glad because of only 24 Joure between first print and start wrapping!
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Vinyl used: Oracal cast 3951? rapid air and gloss laminate
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@ david, the envision is print film, I prefer no to print the black, because of the fact with colour differences…
FYI: one side view is: 16 metres by 2,2 metres high – there’s another side that has to been done also.It’s very difficult printing this without any any colourchange…
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hmmm panels are much more expensive than just replacing the fullcolour artwork.
I’ll mount these stickers by myself in about 8 hours work – new panels and prints on it will be price by 300-400% more expensive! -
yep indeed already dibond panels mounted from previous owner… he got it sponsored by boss paints (paints brand) and now it will be horse equiment…
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This will be an exterior job, existing dibond panels with fullcolours prints and matte laminate needed new layout…
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@ gary: wrapfilm is not a regular vinyl and does need a certain temperature for a good adhesion onto surface… Anyone here that has worked in these conditions?
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@ gary and what about application temperature, it’s nearly 8-10 degrees, should be at least 18 degrees says technical data sheet…
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Hi Jamie, I am looking for a coloured matte black vinyl – I don’t like printing 70 sqm black, and have a chance that there is a little difference between first print and latest printed colour black…
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van is finished, photo on portfolio section on this board 🙂
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John, perhaps split in 2, that way only one join, and easier transportation…
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I would outsource the printjob, and let it be printed on airtex on a 5m wide printer…
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Well the holder aint the problem but it can cut the film while rolling it out of the box.
So you can apply the film Starfighter from the box onto the glass without cutting it afterwards for a second time on the glass… -
ow and the white circle text says: first aid with sign and advertising
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well under the logo CAVIAR GRAPHICS, stands advertising I sign, but in dutch 🙂
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David, I meant the construction of your working table 🙂 At this point I was looking at welding the whole table, but it looks like your aluminium profile does the job as well…
Would like have 2 separate tabels each one 400 x 200 cm on wheels
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I was wondering what type of profiles you have used as work table?
I am also moving to unit and don’t really now how to set up everything without losing to much space ( unit is 7metres wide, 25 metres long) -
this is buddha when he looks happy 🙂 meet buddha my english bulldog
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Hi guys, It’s been a while, have had surgery at my wrist (Carpal tunnel syndrome) and was out for 2 months now…
I have changed the van a little bit:
> It now says in Dutch: first aid with advertising
> my keywords, the things I do, form the white cross, some are highlighted in red
> changed colours a little
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did 1m with text, 3 layers stamped in 1,5 hour
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little update guys:
have used outdoor wall paint, this paint does not leak whilst drying, and gets really quick thick before drying.
Hereby picture:
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thx guys! was thinking at stamping first with the white, and then filling it up with black..
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Perfect! THX
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Shutterstock rules… and for vectors there’s vectorstock.com
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@ Robert: this weekend I was surfing around the web, and came across this site:
http://2wrap.com/pages/portfolio.php?start=7&=They have wrapped a bently, perhaps you can ask them how they have done it…
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okay Kev, have looked at the new Image Perfect 3500 matte series and it does look great, so will try selling this one!
Spandex clearly says in technical details that vinyl can be applied wet, and without typical white watermarks or residue.
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okay thanks! > just saw that Spandex gave me the 651 instead of the 631… tsss
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okay removing door handles V50 how to:
1. Open door and look for plastic tap
2. Remove tap
3. Torcx 25 screwdriver
4. Losen Torcx not complete unscrewing!
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Well the building is named after an ancient writer named Jacob Van Maerlant, and the etch contains a part of his work written in old dutch language 🙂
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Don’t mind the f*cking autocorrection on my iPhone 🙂
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Thanks to Facebook i’ve round one of my contact who was technician at Volvo premium center.
There’s only one Torcx screw that holds the whole handle, 5 minutes work not hard at all… We Will have a try and see.
Ill keep you Guus poster with photos on how to 🙂
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I think it is the paint that causes the problem, what type of paint was used? on oil base or water?
Was the wall painted matte? lacquer? half matte?
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I hardly ever use anything else than 3M VHB double sided tape, even for panels 4000 x 1000 mm
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okay thanks for the advice!
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okay thanks!
Nigel, have contacted (twice already) igepa let’s hope they give me an account so I can order online…
Nigel another question: can I use medium tack application tape?
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not printable, white color… Metamark is not a brand well known over here!
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Only a week ago I have seen a product that ‘breaks’ the glass sealing from new cars.
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pfew it’s done 🙂 140 metres x 1,22 m in just 2 days! damn it’s a good feeling when you have completed something and you’re proud of it 🙂
day 1 with 2 people : 8:00 until 12u30 / 13 until 20:00 : 55 metres
day 2 with 4 people : 8:00 until 12u30 / 13 until 17:00 : 85 metressneak preview of 35 metres…
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okay have cutted al 43 panels with poems, went really good!
(4 hours cutting and peeling = 11 panels 2,7metres long x 1,2metres high)so what preparation concerned have won plenty of hours.
April 2nd starts, and from now on getting a bit nervous 🙂
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I would advise looking at light with colour temperature of 6500 Kelvin, that is ‘natural’ daylight…
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it does look like the ‘Iveco Daily 65C18 Van’ vector on the net…
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Looks very good, still have to do a design for my Vauxhall Vivaro, and was looking at this sample. Looks very good, but a bit to dark…
I have seen an Arlon metallic matte red on the net, but no real colour sample.
Very nice work you have done, and with very beautiful cars also!
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I do love the dept in this… never tought that printing onto clear would be this visible…
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one word fantastic!
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I do love the Spandex Imageperfect IP 5804 a lot…
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okay thanks guys!
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gelukkig nieuwjaar vanuit het verre brugge 🙂
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okay thanks guys!
ps : this evening it will be : night at the museum (but not the movie, and hopefully not with the same side effects that everything comes to life 😉
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Damned never been thinking of that, als yes I think that would have looked good!!
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The building is named ‘Jacob van Maerlandt’ after a writer, so the poem will be a selection from one his work…
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more close up (larger file)
Ps : it’s no dust of whatever, vinyl has regular air release? pattern over the whole surface!
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as promised here are some pictures i have taken from the easy apply etch…
(pictures taken by iphone so nevermind colours)EDIT : etch was not applied by myself! (I would not leave it like that or get paid for that that’s for sure)
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vinyl has to applied only on the inside… oef!
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@ Robert : they did not aks for a specific brand, but as for projects like this I did not think on any other brand than 3M…
I have to guarantee this total project for a total of 5 years, any defect must been corrected within 7 (work) days…
I have received a document with 40 pages with al their demands, so making worries about materials is one easy thing to eliminate!
For example :
When quoting for the job i declare that they may consult my bankaccounts
I must make that each subcontractor speaks dutch, has dutch nationality for minimum 5 years, and i must have a insurance for each of them.
Insurance must been emailed to a certain person for approval by goverment within 10 days!I have to make a handbook from every installation, with type of vinyl, how to clean, and prevent damages (stupid I know). Must been copied to 5 ex.
and so on and so on…
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etch that i have offred is the 3M 7725, very expensive material and when I am thinking about the total cost of investment before getting paid… pfewww!
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they have asked for an etch with guaranteed lifetime minimum 7 years, and it’s in fact glass panels each 2,7m width and a small aluminium frame.
Etch has to be applied on inside buth each glass panel is another office, so office in and out…
I will get further details and i have 40 days : for them approving the layout, me ordering materials and installation.
I am now looking for some subcontractors to help me with this, because at this moment I am still working as a graphic designer on daily base, and caviar graphics is just a second job 🙂
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Has anyone of you people had a look at an air release etch with sun shining on it…
I do and It looks awfull, you can see the pattern in wich the glue is laid out on the surface…I will take a picture next week and post this on this forum.
(Vinyl is applied on inside, needs to been seen for people walking outside)
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Thanks for the advice everyone!
The problem with translucent vinyl is that it really blocks light. The clients wants a vinyl that does not block any kind of light, but it must be a bright lemon colour…
When printing direct onto etch I do think that you won’t get a bright colour finish, or certainly not the intensity.
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John,
This vinyl is transparent, I am looking for a coloured vinyl that does not block out light, but must hide from viewing…
It has to have the same aspect like an etch, but has to be lime green…
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TY Neil!
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wow I am surprised 🙂 I guess it is the category shop front? or UKSB newcomer?
ps : this shop has been overtaken by an investment group and I am now busy with another shop front upgrade…
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another tryout…
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my proposal for vehicle
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