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    Posted by Tim de Beir on December 20, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    Okay here’s the situation :

    This afternoon got called by supervisor from the (new) Historium museum at the Grand Place in Bruges. They want to add some extra signage but everything has to been painted on the walls no vinyl.

    The new signage must installed after closing time museum (after 18h) and should been done before sunday morning 10 pm. I can work clock around at night, there’s security to keep on eye on everything 🙂

    Tomorrow evening they want me to install the most urgent signage, and I now want to know if there are any tips on how to apply paint stencils with vinyl.

    I have ordered some ‘Avery Signmask Light Blue’ for cutting the signage and applying onto the wall.

    But most important are there things that I should keep in mind?
    I don’t want paint getting under the stencil, and leaking small pieces paint, no I want smooth edges 🙂

    Any help or tips are welcome 🙂
    Hereby some photos of the excisting situation…

    Jill Marie Welsh replied 11 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Tim de Beir

    Member
    December 20, 2012 at 9:18 pm

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  • John Singh

    Member
    December 20, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    You should certainly make sure that the client will give you a drop of the wall backdrop colour

    Bleeding under the mask depends on the surface of the wall
    Some decorators know how to use a roller and finish the wall quite smoothly
    Others are less desirable finishes and bleeding can occur so being a little adept with a small artist’s cut in brush would be advisable

    Test a very small portion of the mask in a inconspicuous area of the wall you are about to do. Leave it for about 15 minutes then try to remove. Take note if any resistance to being pulled away has increased. If it has then I would be wary indeed of using it as it could be ‘gassing off’ i.e. the paint is reacting to the mask

    Sorry to scare you

    Sometimes this sort of thing can go really well other times is can be a nightmare

    As signwriters we don’t use mask on internal walls we just paint straight on by brush

    Of course we at times do use paint mask but only on surfaces where we know it won’t cause damage

  • John Harding

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 10:20 am

    You should be fine as long as the paint is sound, apply the mask and work in with a roller or felt squeegee – dont make the mistake I made years ago I cleaned the area first in white spirit which then caused the paint to run 🙁

    Do a couple – then go back and remove the earlier ones before the paint fully dries or the edge of the mask can grab the fresh paint.

    A pair of tweezers is invaluable for picking out the paint mask centers of images or text.

    John

  • Tim de Beir

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 10:37 am

    okay thanks guys!

    ps : this evening it will be : night at the museum (but not the movie, and hopefully not with the same side effects that everything comes to life 😉

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 10:55 am

    What can help is an inline on the cut mask, which can be removed immediately to avoid bleed. Also when applying the paint try to avoid brushing along the edges, I use a stippling motion at 90 degrees to the wall, which also helps to get crisp sharp lines.
    Your technique taking off the mask is important too, take it away with the vinyl parrallel to the wall if that makes sense, minimise the pull on the wall paint. All depends on how well the wall was painted though, nightmare if it comes off.

  • John Singh

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 12:12 pm
    quote Harry Cleary:

    What can help is an inline on the cut mask, which can be removed immediately to avoid bleed. Also when applying the paint try to avoid brushing along the edges, I use a stippling motion at 90 degrees to the wall, which also helps to get crisp sharp lines.
    Your technique taking off the mask is important too, take it away with the vinyl parrallel to the wall if that makes sense, minimise the pull on the wall paint. All depends on how well the wall was painted though, nightmare if it comes off.

    Precisely!

    Had a job where I started to take mask off and the backdrop paint came away back to the bare plaster. Nightmare! In the end would have been loads quicker doing by hand

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Do as Harry suggests, and do be sure to have some of the wall color supplied to you.
    Be careful, as painting with a stencil can make a real mess. Bring extra paper towels!
    WTF is that? The Grim Reaper chasing someone in a wheelchair?
    😕
    Love….Jill

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