Colin Crabb
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Antalis (but don’t go by the prices on website – RING them!)
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We always quote for artwork (logo creation etc) as a separate item, never in the mix for, say a banner….
Artwork charges:
Basic: £25 per hour
Creative: £35 per hour
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R9 – suitable for dry areas – wet slip risk HIGH
R10 – areas kept mostly dry – wet slip risk Moderate
R11 – Can be occasionally wet – wet slip risk Moderate
R12 – Commercial Wet areas – wet slip risk LOW
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Just make sure the machine can handle 350gsm, cheaper ones are rated at 300gsm….
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Due to the COVID situation, HP haven’t done the normal spring promo for authorised resellers, and some warehouses will have kit sitting there from March, which manufactures will want there £££ for now….so yes going to be some nice promotions soon!
We’re already looking at another machine, as this lockdown period has identified supply issues associated with using outsourcing.
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cjv300 is a solvent machine, using heat to dry the ink – inks unlikely to dry on the foamboard due to the extra thickness of the material, or if you did crank the heat up it would warp the board I would imagine – thats even if you can adjust the head height clearance accurately as Gil says.
Direct to board printers tend to be UV to eliminate the drying issue (and yes, there are a few Hybrid machines)
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It will be HS3921****** for plastics, last 6 number depend on the material / thickness etc
39 – Plastics / 21 – otherplates, sheets, film, foil and strip, of plastic
Educated guess: HS3921131010 for 3mm polyurethane foam sheet when referring to trade tariff: https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/headings/3921
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quote :One thing which has always puzzled me though, Slip ratings are required for the graphics, but the floors they are being applied to don’t – go figure
Umm.. that not quite true in retail & commercial properties, HSE states:
The floor in a workplace must be suitable for the type of work activity taking place on it.
The Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992 (Regulation 12) require floors to be suitable, in good condition and free from obstructions. People should be able to move around safely.
Where a floor is likely to be subject to frequent contamination, people should still be able to walk on it without the risk of slipping. See Assessing the slip resistance of flooring, which also describes the relevant British and European standards.
Eg: if a customer slips over in a shop, and the flooring isn’t suitable (no slip rating) then the owners will be liable.
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Simply, if you want them to last then use the laminate version.
In commercial / high traffic areas the textured version will not last long, I’ve had reports of 2 weeks from a client whom bought them ‘cheap’ form Ebay to save a few Quid… and now ordering the 2 part version from us. -
Do you have an Antalis account? if not prices will look very high as they are for Joe Public, not trade.
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H Ian,
Just to make you aware of this:
HP has announced End of Life for L26500 & L28500 Latex Printers, Inks & accessories will cease.
Product Discontinuation Notification for HP 792 Ink Cartridges, Printheads, and Cleaning and Maintenance Kits – beginning April 30th, 2020.Beginning April 30th, 2020 HP will begin a country-specific process to discontinue HP LX610 and HP 792 Ink Cartridges, HP LX610 and HP 792 Printheads, and HP LX600 and HP792 Cleaning and Maintenance Kits which will no longer be available for purchase.
Below are the supplies impacted.
HP 792 775-ml Black Latex Ink Cartridge CN705A
HP 792 775-ml Cyan Latex Ink Cartridge CN706A
HP 792 775-ml Magenta Latex Ink Cartridge CN707A
HP 792 775-ml Yellow Latex Ink Cartridge CN708A
HP 792 775-ml Light Cyan Latex Ink Cartridge CN709A
HP 792 775-ml Light Magenta Latex Ink Cartridge CN710A
HP 792 Yellow/Black Latex Printhead CN702A
HP 792 Cyan/Light Cyan Latex Printhead CN703A
HP 792 Light Magenta/Magenta Latex Printhead CN704A
HP 792 Latex Ink Maintenance Kit CR279A
HP 792 Latex Printhead Cleaning Kit CR278A
HP LX600 Scitex Maintenance Kit CC591A
HP 789/792 Latex Printhead Cleaning Container CH622ACOMPATIBILITY
The following printer series are the only ones compatible with the above supplies:
L26500 and L28500HP will use commercially reasonable effort to provide service support in regard to spare parts, phone and onsite support for the range of printers using the consumables listed above.
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Very simple to do – in illustrator create & save a library spot colour, with a name such as ‘ContourCut’, this will be your cut path.
In Onyx – CUT server – managed cutters – add your new Summa – then in ‘cut layer option’ add the name of your newly created spot colour (CountourCut). Onyx will now know this is not to be printed, and your cut path, which will auto generate every time you print the job.
So basically the same as Mutoh!For vinyl cutting, Summa comes with a control program that will load & cut your .ai files.
Hope that helps :smiles:
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Antalis has been bought by Japan’s Kokusai Pulp & Paper
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DPD – Pretty good now (had issue in past with collections), my normal day-to-day courier.
TNT – Not used them.
Yodal – slow, very slow & cheap
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I just hope the UK government will support businesses, starting to become worried here as highly exposed due to our Holiday & Event type of clients cancelling work.
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As Pane says, 300micron pop up media – nice n’ cheap, rigid enough & totally waterproof. Also saves on carrying another stock item.
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quote :The thing is Colin, every industry has regulations of some sort. it just seems the sign industry is so far behind in putting any in place. which is something I spend a hell of a lot of time to create an awareness of.
I totally agree, I have pulled companies up before, as in my example of fitting tray sign over windows, we lost the work as customer didn’t want to be educated, just wanted the job done. Imagine if there was a fire, and covering windows with ACM on the first floor hindered the Fire Brigade……
Another example on our label press printing beer labels. Supplied artwork was missing legal requirements in displaying ABV at correct font size, on the front of the label. This could land the end user a £5000 fine – NOT the designer / printer. We pointed this out to the designer, who’s reply was ‘But it ruins the design….’ ( :shocked: ) The customer on the other hand was very happy!
So yes, its about education. As for regulation I’d personally like to see Building Control become more involved in signing off signage, therefore encouraging & promoting the knowledge required – As with your H&S signage, Building Control would indicate the colours required, and if still incorrect would advice and not sign off the work, long before any audit.
If this type of system was introduced, I personally feel it would create a level playing field, as no matter if you worked from a shed or had a 2000 strong work force, we’d all have to abide by the same compliance rules – fairer solution? -
Phil – your missing a trick..
..surely it could be sold as ‘self adhesive face mask’ rolls! 😉
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Heads are warrantied by HP for 2k or X amount of time – only returned 2 heads in 5 years.
On average I’d say heads run 6-7k with no issues (and we run small / fine detailed stuff, so are fussy), but can defo’ run longer!
quote :Spoke to a local guy who has latex and he also said every few rollsekks, that doesn’t sound right – for example in December we ran 10 rolls @ 1370mmm x 50m rolls one after the other printing hi tack safety stickers without a single head change, pictures below are those heads, still in machine… run 12Litres & 10litres :bigsmile:
For us, its all about maintance and looking after the kit – it then looks after you.
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Nice NHS order for 30 roller banners this afternoon about prevention & washing hands :smiles:
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quote :Starting to wonder when material supllies are going to start being affected as most comes from central europe
Dye sub blanks are starting to be effected, need 300 tote bags yesterday, everyone seems to be out of stock
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ahh urrrhh… hard to reach keyboard after buying 5tons of toilet roll, 36,000 bottles of hand wash and enough can food to shock a redneck prepper.
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quote :hy on earth at even 1100mm high, doesn’t this come out of a machine perfectly flat?
When printing the lower the micron ‘step’ between layers the smoother finish. Small desk top machines can be as low as 25microns, there is also some post print smoothing on some higher enmd machines.
But can you imagine the time it would take to print 4metres high in 25micron layers…….
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quote :Robert Lambie wrote:
Chris Wilson wrote:
Hopefully it’s a seasonal thing. Like bird flu and swine flu has been in the past (which I had btw and it was pretty rough)not that I am paranoid, but you did wash your hands before typing this, didn’t you?
No I’ve not washed my hands in a few weeks. Everyone likes eating there nose boggies to right?
Germs are good for you, My Ma’ told me
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No effects here yet – apart from I’ve informed staff that payment upfront will be required for event printing (just in case event is cancelled and we have issues getting paid!).
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Rob, the problem is, that sign making is pretty much unregulated.
Regulation can be a double edge sword, Cost(s) to ourselves that a regulatory body would charge VS increased standards etc.
While I like to see, and strive ourselves to meet high standards in both sign making and graphic design, and making sure insurance & fit for purpose is adhered too… would I like to see a regulatory charge of £1000 for the first year, then £500 a year onwards as electrical trade? I’m not sure….
We have lost a job last year, as was unhappy with clients response about planning permission and building control (they wanted to cover windows with sign trays on a first floor), yet A.N OTHER sign maker was happy to take the work.
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Using it every day? If so, new with warranty and watch the stress disappear.
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yup, feels nice & thick, my customers love it – we just done 6000 wheelie bin stickers with it (the High Tack version).
Ask for a sample, your like it.
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quote :As they are applying these themselves and they are only 40mmx50mm they are finding the vinyl thinner and of course they have air bubbles in them when they fit them
Use Metamark MDP range (matt or gloss) – 100micron thick, great for stickers :thumbsup:
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+1 Innotech
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‘If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is’.
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quote :the IP address has bee changed
Onyx (should) warn you of this with a warning pop-up screen.
Have you fixed the issue?
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Onyx RIP? if so press the red icon, to turn it green as below
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quote :I’d be drowning in drugs & hookers, not toner
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Xerox IGen5 are cheaper – starting at only only £650,000ish for a 5 colour base set up :thumbsup:
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Great machines!
quote :one that can print labels and stickers, combined with a laser cutter, impressive bit of kityou should see it in action David, cooooooool pieces of kit!!!!!
Prices for new – top range Xeikon 8800 was approx. £800,000 – £1 million depending on spec., 3000 series, a lot cheaper at £300,000++ depending on spec.
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Perhaps its time to offer cars with the wraps, and shops with signs :bigsmile:
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Heavy blue – solid, no issues.
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Certain ‘cheaper’ banner media isn’t coated properly for Latex usage… even if they say they are! – yes it will work, but its not really suitable!
We had this before, and was purely down to the surface coating after a lot of excuses from an old supplier and some insider info from HP.For banner look at PaperGraphics FB6 range for Latex machines, great short term banner media that takes perfect solid colours.
Metamark Wallart, hmm not had an issue with darks, but we do create our own profiles.
One last thing, is check printheads. Some of these medias will make ‘wavy’ patterns if any of the heads are not 100%, quick plot test will show if any heads misfiring.
Edit: Your last picture is what we had with low cost banner media – it isn’t coated correctly for Latex use.
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Delivered ‘urgent’ siteboards & scaffold banners on the Friday before a Bank Holiday for a builder – the builder was declared bankrupt on the Tuesday…..
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Rob is correct, it’s referring to ‘surge protection’ or in 18th edition electrics SPD (surge protection devices).
Have an electrician check your consumer unit or distribution board to see if its fitted or integrated – our Hager board has a surge protection module fitted, protecting everything.
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Recessed button fixing? Buttons on wall, routed rebate in panel.
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We’ve sold a few – not cheap looking at £1500 – £4000 outlay for a 50" free standing unit depending on what you want to do. Top end units are connected via Wi-Fi or even SIM card so you can change or update adverts without visiting site, plus get status reports, this is a great upsale service that you can provide for ongoing revenue. Smaller presentation screens are a lot less!!
And no, domestic ‘smart’ TV’s are not suitable, as they are not rated to run 24/7….. yes I’ve had a customer ask this before.
Artwork is pretty easy for basics flat images just a standard Jpeg etc, you can then progress to simply photoshop timeline (GIF, AVI), and if you really get into it create using something like Adobe premier pro & After Effects for the really coooool video stuff (MP4 etc) (tip: you can buy a huge amount of premade files now from the likes of shutterstock etc), all the units have some form of Android media player software running making it very easy to add files to the internal harddrive, with control on how it plays back. On power loss, they just reboot and play.
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We’ve turned up with ladders before and the bill has been paid on the spot :smiles:
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quote :his is how we do our trays, it easier and quicker to make a frame in the workshop.
Yup, we do the same by making frames in the workshop – but use our keencut to groove the panels.
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So the laminate hasn’t adhered to the printed vinyl?
I’ve only ever seen this years ago, with dark colours printed with a 1st generation latex printer – the overlaminate didn’t seem to adhere, and could be peeled off. Never seen it since.As for removing… +1 to wallpaper steamer and lots of time 🙁 tried the chemical solutions once, didn’t work for me, made more mess than help.
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We always use AD Young for HP latex machines – good bunch, friendly and knowledgeable engineers
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From engineers service manual:
SE Code: 16.61:10 – Vapor removal system: vapor fans array 1 fault
Problem description: Air Curtain and Printzone Heaters Control/Curing Control PCA (depending on SKU) to Air Curtain Fans, Cable
Air Curtain Fans.Service engineer:
1. Reseat/Replace Air Curtain and Printzone Heaters Control/Curing Control PCA to Air Curtain Fans Cable.
2. Check that all Air Curtain Fans rotate, and are unobstructed.
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Ah, yes we use Latex printers.
Didn’t really have much issue fitting, but admittedly has been on flat walls!
Have used matt laminated MD3 also, combined with gloss laminated pieces to create a spot-uv effect! -
We use a lot of the Metamark wallart range, really like it.
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Metamark are now selling 3m knifeless in a new range for accessories
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Do you exsphect me to tok??
No, Mr. Fenton, I expect you to make signs…
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Eurostand displays – speak to Kim
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quote :if it says “in stock” then it’s in stock in Cambridge
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The best? Porcelain commercial floor tiles with underfloor heating.
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Yup, sounds like a profile issue, but can I just check
quote :back-lit PVC filmfor a roller banner? Normally you’d use a light-stop front lit media (eg Grey backed 300micron lay flat film).
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I wouldn’t… but remember our L360 had issues 2 months after installation, with a duff’ power supply being replaced after engineers visiting for 3 days.
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Artsystem are the sole UK distributors, all machines in the UK are supplied by them to approved HP Latex channel vendors for resale – If you import a machine I believe it will be classed as a grey import and very unlikely you’ll have any warranty coverage once they look up the serial number.
RRP £12,90+vat, but you should be able to get this down to around £11,500 + vat
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Defo’ hitting the underside of the heat – as jim says, use the take up reel, or clips with weights 😉
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My master plan…
Win Euro Lottery’s £144 Million :thumbsup:
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AD Young – top guys & girls, look after our machines.
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quote :I’d love a plug in for Illustrator that puts drill/grommet marks on prints.
This is done via Onyx RIP very handy!
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Nice one, just placed an order :thumbsup:
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Just checked – ours is dead vertical according to iPhone level
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Kick off mate – Send them those pictures and get someone out, Keencut offer good warranty – one of the reasons we spent extra going with a good brand after ‘issues’ with ‘cheaper’ brands!
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Is it under 5 years old – if so get Keencut to replace it! (5 year comprehensive guarantee)
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EKKK! :awkward: something very wrong – looks like your steeltrack is bowed in the centre!! Run a straight edge on it and check.
Here’s a quick cut on ours – totally different.
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quote :David Stevenson wrote:
V groove attachment for steeltrak is rubbish. Doesn’t put down even pressure resulting in a groove of different depths along its length. Very disappointing 🙁I second that David. It was that reason why I bought the Steeltrak in the first place but it was useless at it. Barely gets used at all now.
We use ours without issue, had to adjust the little wheel correctly, then was tip-top.
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Was just about to say, it looks like a 3rd party copy of FC7000
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And check with local council – some council will move the vehicle on / issue warning very quickly if parked on highways.
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I think Corel removed the old function (Options – performance – Memory) to increase memory usage & scratch disk space for some very very stupid reason.
You’ll need to increase the virtual memory via windows
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quote :They switched me to another RIP which I’m not happy about because it doesn’t cut the stickers automatically from the barcode as advertised. Service man serviced it last week let it slip that everyone is haveing problems with flexisign & the HP
Which RIP have they swapped you too? Use the Summa barcode server, should work fine….
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We also offer waterproof versions – cheap’o poster HP latex polyprop media, my builder clients love them :smiles:
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Make them :smiles: https://www.themetalstore.co.uk/product … are-fast25
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My mates landlord has a very novel way to deal with late rent…. He’s been known to place 2 ton rocks outside unit doors before, so you cant even get into the building…… (he also owns a quarry!).
That seems to work 😆
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I think its down to they’re having trouble getting the stock to resale.
I notice HP parts are bought from USA, not from HP Europe (Which is based in Spain) – this would also explain why they don’t want returns, as they would be unable themselves to return items, and the long lead times.
Manufactures tend to have distribution partners, and don’t like 3rd part sellers at times…..
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quote :Colin, where did you get your batten fixtures from, are they genuine led ones or are they old ones converted to use led tube lights?
Same battens with new tubes – you can use the replacement starters, or just rip-out the ballast and direct wire (ballast & start not needed) – very simple to do, or get a sparky to do it for you.
Much cheaper option than replacing the whole units. Pop to your local electrical wholesaler the tubes are very common now.EDIT: we replaced 32 tubes….. one HELL of a power saving!!!!!!!
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Set her to work Hugh! – pretty sure she could produce better artwork than I’ve just been sent from a ‘designer :smiles: ‘
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Twin battens with daylight tubes here – retro fitted into the old battens, very simply to do.
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Yup, you got an issue there with the black head Those lines in the magenta will not help either 🙁
Metamark artisan wallart media is good – should have no issues with print quality, this was printed a year or so ago and hangs on our workshop wall – solid..solids 😆
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Run head plot test print, and see how that looks before swapping them out
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Also run a print quality check plot, make sure everything is firing correctly.
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This part?:
$this->BBvideo_pass(‘$8’, ‘$4’, ‘$7’)
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Unless its been flood coated with black vinyl?
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quote :I have sent an Email saying I want my card credited or I will take it up with my card company. Waiting for a reply.
They think they can just say “We can’t help you, but we are keeping your money”.And they will – credit card company cannot help, as DIGIPRINT have T&C’s that the credit card company is bound by – been there, done that.
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Dilite from Antalis – 0.2mm aluminium, but its black gloss / matt not milled.
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Excellent! something very different, nice job.
Slightly scary machines… Skynet anyone??!!!
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If your using Office 365 Exchange – have a look at Planner, its included in the subscription, links to emails, customisable, cloud based so works on across all your PC’s & smartphones!
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and why do they put text 2mm from the edge…. with no bleed….
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As will all 3rd party inks – is it worth it?
With HP L3** having replaceable printheads, using 3rd party ink will render warranty invalid on new printheads (the onboard OS logs and notifies HP). Yes, in the 4 years we have run this series we’ve only had 4 or 5 heads die within warranty period, and claimed for replacements – but at £70 per head, that eats into any saving using 3rd party inks.
This is only one item, as Rob says its highly likely your HP warranty will be void any if they find you using 3rd party ink.For us, with experience in the past with 3rd party inks and there providers wiggling out of any warranty’s/guarantees that they provide, we steer clear of them, to save a few ££, its not worth it – argue with your ink supplier instead and get the OEM ink price down (should be able to get OEM 831 inks below £85 currently) 😉
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We run ours at 600m/s – 800m/s just scares me :yikes:
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Warning sign should be in there specified colours to meet Health and Safety (Safety Signs and Signals Regulations) 1996 – if there recoloured, they’d not meet the standard.
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Yes, Wasatch softRIP supports HP: http://www.wasatch.com/hpprinterlist.html
Never used this RIP, but as Rob says you can run a number of machines from one RIP (Dependent on your licence) – our dongle is licenced to run 5 machines currently
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quote :Anyone else wanting their day ruined? I’m available for weddings, anniversaries & bar mitzvah’s.
hehehe – umm can you supply advice when to change ink cart…
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Work both ways – I was approached and sold my domain a number of years ago for 4 figure sum……….
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Signgeer is in Holsworthy :smiles:
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I know they’re a lot more difficult to get on HP suppliers channels and therefore the prices are higher, liable to increase at a faster rate then the newer L** series (831 ink) too, as HP wish to push end users to the newer machines :awkward:
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Then look at the NT1317 if you just use Flexi 12 on it for designwork – BUT change the SSD drive from 240GB to 480GB (adds £18.76 so doesn’t break the bank lol!) – I’m not a flexi user, I’m guessing you don’t wort with huge graphic files?
We use Adobe Illustrator / Photoshop / Indesign so have slightly higher spec kit in regards to RAM and dedicated graphics cards, as hardware acceleration is supported by Adobe.
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Prefer the NT1339 as it has a second drive (2TB sata) to store files locally if you don’t save to a server.
Motherboard has ‘onboard’ graphics I quickly checked Flexi, and it doesn’t state if it benefits from a separate GPU, so unsure if it would offer any extra benefits.
Flexi write up says 4GB ram min, 16GB recommended, so this machine with 8GB is above min spec, if you wanted you could up the RAM to 16GB for top speeeeeeeeeed.I like Novatech, buy a few bits from them, good pricing and good service compared to the likes of Dell / Currys etc!
They will always build a machine to you requirements too.