[John Singh]

Excellent advice from Bob

Just another tip
Use a scalpel or blade along with a straight edge to cut back about one sixteenth short of the edge

This will help you to expel the water at the edge properly and stop it being caught and lifted accidentally

John

[John Singh]

Actually when I said to one tele – sales that I couldn’t afford to spend any more on my advertising budget I did suggest that I could offer my services to a good cause by perhaps doing a few banners or signs for them at a nominal rate………..and it did work
😉 😉
John

[John Singh]

Another good layout Rich
Well done

John

[John Singh]

I’m working on an old Dell
Seemed to be the best price at the time even though Simply Computers is just a couple of miles away from me. Simply Computers do good deals as well

Talking about old machines
Anyone remember 4mg would cost you over £100 + vat
…and the guys who use to boast about their 500mg hard drive and their upgrade from 2 x speed CD rom to Super QUAD Speed
😆 😆 😆

John

[John Singh]

Thanks guys
I now have several ways of doing this

Spoilt for choice 😉 😉 😉

john

[John Singh]

Surely that’s not the point
Its the satisfaction and contentment you get from knowing that you have really worked hard for that £50 wage at the end of the week 😆 😆 😆

John

[John Singh]

Just to say a big welcome to the site
I’m sure you’ll enjoy it
there’s a bit of friendly banter now and then (chat.)
Lots of cordial exchanges (:) (:) (:)
and down to earth calm discussions (hot) (hot) (hot)

You’ll love it

John 😆

[John Singh]

Hi Mike

Welcome to the site 😀

i’m sure you have much to contribute and so we look forward to your posts

John 😀

[John Singh]

Well done Andrew and…
Welcome to the site

I think you’re courageous to be going it alone but it seems you’ve got it in ya

A lot of us here have been in the game a long time but coming on the site we’ve learn’t and are still learning a great deal

All the best for the future

John

[John Singh]

Then call me when youre ready cos I’ve got a proper curtain rail 😆 😆 😆

John

[John Singh]

‘ere’ere’

John

[John Singh]

OK
This must have happened to you!!!

You stick up a dirty great sign saying something like this:

JEWELLERS
Gold & Silver Bought
Cash Paid
New & Second Hand Jewellery at competitive prices

Just putting the finishing touches to the sign when someones says;

‘So whats this gunna be then???’

Duh!

John

[John Singh]

Just checkin’ into this post as I understand this is where you check if someone has cast a spell on you……..MMMMMmmmmmmm Nope
Now I can sleep 😆 😆

Theres got to be one
Youre quietly going about your business when someone yells ‘Ya spelt it wrong mate’

Times that happened over the years. You half laugh back hoping to convince them that you’re in stitches

Once we were doing a pub called William the Conqueror
Signwriting merrilly along when the publican passes by and says the usual joke ‘you’ve spelt it wrong mate’ My mate and I let out a hearty laugh to let him know we think he’s hilarious. 😆 😆

Half an hour later he passes by again and repeats the yarn
this time were rolling our eyes 🙄 🙄 🙄

Anyway job done, load up our tressles and stuff and tell the publican were off. He says ‘What about the spelling mistake?’
We laugh again to amuse him but a with a dead pan expression he tells us we’ve put an ‘E’ where there should have been ‘O’ (Conquerer Conqueror)
At this point we stopped laughing (hot) (hot) (hot) 😳 😳

[John Singh]

Does the BSGA have blinkered vision and presume that all Sign firms are all large consortiums (?) 🙄 🙄

John

[John Singh]

Victory Design Ltd do multi-fix Anti Graffiti 5850 film

01246 570570
http://www.victory-design.co.uk

John

[John Singh]

Just a little job you had to get of the way before the weekend!!! 😆 😆 😆

Stroll on! I’m still catching my breath and I dare not look down 😮 😮

Just a thought (-)
Did you say it was scaffolding throughout or were you working from towers (?) (?)

John

[John Singh]

Yet again a brilliant piece of work

Only piece of pinstriping I did was on two four wheel drives and a brand new jag using pinstriping tape. (not quite the same I know)

They were accident insurance jobs and the customers insisted (:) (:) that the lines had to be painted on and absolutely no vinyl

John

[John Singh]

Robert
You haven’t told us where you can get these hats from (?) (hot)
and how much are they (?) Do you have to buy them in lots of 500 😆 😆 😆

John

[John Singh]

Well done Eddie 😀
Top bit looks like you’ve done it in brush 🙂
I’ve got to have my weetabix before attempting to unroll the magnetic 😆 😆 😆 pretty heavy when you get it in a lump! 🙁

incidentally what is the name of that font (?)

John

[John Singh]

Terry

Beautiful artwork
Is this a mixture of one shot enamel and custom spraying?

The only thing I could think of for protecting the work is to give it a few coats of frog juice….. at least if vandals did get at it with spray or the like, it would be possible to rub down with fine grade and recoat with frog juice

At the NEC last year they were promoting an anti-graffitti spray that you could use over vinyl and digital prints – Can’t remember the company but they were also promoting the vehicle wrap.

John

[John Singh]

Like it Steve!

Good use of what space they have on these vans
Very pleasing to the eye
Quite amazing what a little embellishment to a letter can do to lift it out from the crowd

Kinda’ wonder what goes on in the mind of vehicle designers 👿 👿
I’m sure there having a chuckle along the way
“Let’s see how those sign guys crack this one!”

John

[John Singh]

Its the guy who’s been playing on his computer all week designing his new logo that kills me. 🙄 🙄 Or the guy who’s just been to a graphic designer and paid out pots.

They come to you with the most weirdest layouts thinking they are real ‘cool’ designs (<( (<( (<( . ……”There can you do that for me?”

You know the A4 print that got to fit into his 22ft x 6″ fascia 😆 😆 😆 😆

John

[John Singh]

I can see where Bob coming from
We’re talking about the scantiest, limited info possible
Its only there to help the supplier recognise the person in question is a bona-fide member and nothing more. No other details should be available

John

[John Singh]

Bob
Think we should be able to recognise one another since most of us have a mugshot posted 😮 😮

What I think might be a good idea is if we did have some badge or I.D. to indicate we all belong to an online community. 😀 😀

I can perhaps understand that Rob would be a little apprehensive about this, in case he felt we wanted to use part of his named site 😕 😕 .. but I’m sure there could be another way around this

What say you Rob?

John

[John Singh]

Surely this ones up Becky’s Street

John

[John Singh]

Welcome Rebecca 😀 😀

And have fun……its a great site 😀
We’re always learning no matter how long we’ve been in the game.
I’ve learn’t a great deal in just a few weeks!

John 🙂

[John Singh]

Phill
I’d have done the same
These Guys are just time wasters
Thing is…..its our time they’re wasting

He couldn’t have been serious else he would have complied with your simple request

He’s got to be seen by his superiors to have put the order out to two or three tenders and generally we find ourselves just filling the quota

I used to worry about possibly a huge order I may have just lost but I don’t think about it now as I’m too busy to worry about it.

John

[John Singh]

Wouldn’t mind taking a day off for NEC this year

Perhaps meet up for a coffee – sounds great 😀 😀

We’ll all have the Sign UK badge but heh!………
What if we all wore a special badge that identified us as belonging to a special signgroup community

Don’t you think that would scare the hell out of them 😆 😆 😆 😆

John 😉

[John Singh]

Thanks Rob 🙂

oooooOOOOhh! Makes me feel like a honourary member 😀 😀

This is going to take a bit of time looking at
What a great idea (-) (-) (-)

John 😀

[John Singh]

Hi Robert

File Swappin’

‘Access Denied’ 😥 😥

John

[John Singh]

Hi Lorraine
Great site

Love those little icons to the left

Just a few spelling mistakes 😳

1 Icon Embroidered
A Board Icon – occasion
2nd to last Icon – components
Funny how everybody else spots them isn’t it? 😳

But yeah! Great site 😀 😀

John 🙂

[John Singh]

Sunglasses 😎
Definitely part of the kit

Try signwriting in one position with the sun blazing down on your back and neck ALL DAY LONG and writing on a white background!! 😮 😮 (<( (<(

“Ai thats nought! ….I used to get up in’mornin’ crack o’ dawn when I wer twelve ‘n’ Dad sent me down’ pit… come ome after 12 ‘our shift, mow the lawn, sweep the back garden and then clean chimne’……It was dark up them there chimne’s…. let me tell ya that” 🙁 🙁

[John Singh]

Sorry to hear you haven’t been well Robert

I guess I can put that down to a lot of very late nights or should I say early mornings when I ‘ve caught you still online 😮 😮 😮 (<( (<(

…………..Presumably working on the shop

Get well!

John

[John Singh]

Thanks Bob

For all your hard work in supplying this additional valuable information
Much appreciated

John

[John Singh]

Pheeeeeeeeeeeeeeew! Just got me picture done in time 😆 😆 😆

I agree with your sentiments Robert

I don’t think that what you are asking for is the Earth!

Registration seems to be fairly simple (I say that because I managed to fill it out) 😉

As you say they CAN reregister if they WANT to

Did notice the registration drop dramatically the other day!!!

John

[John Singh]

Which all goes to show that our job is not just about knockin’ out signs

Thats what makes our job interesting and fulfilling because we really have to be problem solvers (-) (-) (-)

Almost invariably at every job there’s an obstacle whether large or small

We have to crack it …..else we can’t finish the job 😳 😳

And if we can’t finish the job…we don’t get paid 😥 😥 😥

Well done Joe

[John Singh]

Well done Joe

It looks very effective

Good to see some interesting background effects 😀

Like Phill says

How did you go about this (?)

John

[John Singh]

Yes Phill 🙂

I thought that the terminology was a little suspicious and well selected. 👿

Maybe we ought to do just that.. change it to ‘signmaker’

John 😀

[John Singh]

Well done Eddie
Just another quickie ‘Ardfinnan the oil only if the gears started to stick!’ 😆 😆 😆

John

[John Singh]

Your dead right Steve!

If your talking about a large contract withs Marks & Sparks or the like, you’ll not only walk the tight rope you’ll do it blindfold and on a monocycle (angel) (angel) (angel)

But for the small order it could just end up you actually not making a profit
at all and ending up with stuff thats not likely to move ‘cos it is such a queer colour anyway’ (hot)

John 😀

[John Singh]

Excellent advise Ruth 🙂 🙂

Interestingly my wife works for the Government UK Sport as an Administrator
(Its where they do all the anti-doping for athletes)
She was going on about the office continuity plan……
Measures to take if there was a sudden disaster or emergency

Well I reckon I’ll have to get her to mine 😀 😀

John

[John Singh]

Crumbs Bob!!
If I had 4 shredded wheat on Monday morning it would see me through to Saturday 😆 😆 😆

John

[John Singh]

Same here Rob
Give ‘um as near as damn it’
Send a few swatches in the post and let them choose

Oh yeah! Don’t forget the;

‘Pheeeeeeeeeeeew! Tut tut…… We’d have to get a whole roll of this stuff specially made up to match……. so that we can do your house number….sweetheart.
…….and it could take some time for the order to be delivered….just how soon did you say you wanted it???

Generally does the trick! 😀

John

[John Singh]

Thanks Martin & Bob

Just beginning to get a picture of what this all about (-)

Kinda reminds me of the times in the 70’s when I was a HGV driver and sometimes couldn’t get into the docks because I didn’t have a union card ………but I still was able to carry out my job as a driver delivering to other places.

John 😀

[John Singh]

Could not Cadlink make dongles micro chip key operated??
Apparently my VW passat can only be opened and the ignition turned by a micro chip key with its unique code

If I lose the key I have a barcode tab for the distributor to make a replacement

It would mean that if someone did arf’inch your dongle it would be useless since he would need a micro chip coded key (hot)

What I mean is this;
The possibility of losing/corrupting/breaking or fire damage to your dongle is VERY REAL………. (Cadlink it DOES and CAN happen!!)
But if you can convince the distributor that you still hold the key!!!

Of course this would be a darn nuisance using a key all the time (hot)
Then what happens if you lose the key 😳 – but you still have your dongle??? 🙁

Then again, there might be another way of following this drift

I’m going to stop now because I’m boring myself to death 😮 😮 😮

John

[John Singh]

Sorry to hear of your upset Phill
Thankfully they didn’t get away with anything
Doesn’t make you sleep easy though does it.

John

[John Singh]

The thought of losing my dongle is quite frightening!! 🙁 😥 😥

I have often thought what’s the point of making a back up of your software if something was to happen to your dongle

You’ve mentioned theft and/or corruption, what about fire??? (hot) (hot)

Do you go to your supplier and tell him you been gutted by fire but you managed to back up your discs……. ‘Please let me have a dongle’

Has anyone been in this situation(?) (?)

So! …. You do have a strong case in this regard, Phill

We do seem to be controlled by that factor

John

[John Singh]

Hey! this nearly blew my mind out 😮 😮 😮 (<(

Tried to follow along – got lost in the maze 🙁 🙁

For some of you this seems to be a doddle 🙂

It would be great to see a demo sometime in the future Rob 😀

John

[John Singh]

Got it!!! Moonbrat

Youre from Manchester
Its got to be the Worthington Cup on Saturday

Come on United!
Used to live in Old Trafford when I was at School at Stretford Road!!

John 😀 😀

[John Singh]

Just one of the reasons I like this site
No nonsense, trivia or offensive behaviour 👿 👿
Everyone trying to help each other out 😀 😀

I agree with Beckys sentiments, Rob
And I do agree with stricter registration requirements as the membership grows so that it will always remain a pleasant place to exchange ideas

John 😀 😀

[John Singh]

Thanks Bob 😀

Very informative (-)

Hope it doesn’t result in closing us small guys down! 😥 😥

John 😀

[John Singh]

Judging by the comments on Signlab 6 I think I’ll stay with Vers.5
Doesn’t seem like I’m missing much

As for illustrator, I just found it not very user friendly
Corel Draw seemed more user friendly

Horses for courses, I think a lot has to do with preference although I don’t work with digital images directly

John

[John Singh]

You’ve inside information on the start of the war in Iraq!!! (hot) (hot)
Thats sorta big isn’t it?
(:) (:)

John

[John Singh]

Well Robert thats a cheeky one
Sort of thing I’d get up to
Brilliant idea!! (-)
But your right! its not actually seen under the ali so its just about creating a space

And those ali fixings (one supplier: Shopkit design ltd) are very expensive
for what they are!!! 😡 😡

John 🙂

[John Singh]

Thanks Robert 🙂

I could probably see you putting a book or signmakers guide together in the future, with the help of other contributors

John 🙂

[John Singh]

Hi Steve
Please to meet you! 😀
If they bend that easily with a bit of heat its sounds like our equivelant of Forex or Foamex…….probably wrong again!! 😥

Have you got a system of bending the material or does someone do that for you??

Cheers!
😀
John

[John Singh]

Listening to what Becky?
Did I miss something? 😆

John

[John Singh]

They look cool! 🙂
I’m guessing that sintra must be equivalent to our perspex acrylic sheeting
……or am I wrong??

Where were these meant to be placed?
On the sidewalk? Tables?

John

[John Singh]

Now that’s mighty sporting of you Martin (angel)
Could you slow down a little bit more so’s I can catch you up?? 😆 😆

John 😀

[John Singh]

Come on Gav

Got to be a node job (no not a nose job!! – plastic surgeon required for that) 😆 😆
If you node wot I mean 😉

John

[John Singh]

I sharpen my scalpel blades sometimes on a oil stone – but never plotter blades!!!
Hardly seems worth it as Robert says
I’m sure its a special hardened steel that can’t be sharpened in the normal way

John

[John Singh]

Nice work Terry 🙂

Good to see us brush guys still at it
Been using a lot of vinyl lately
Hadn’t touched the brush for some weeks 😥
Customer absolutely insisted on traditional signwriting. (hot)

It was a pleasure 🙂 to get the sables and gold leaf out and do a bit of signwriting & gilding.

John

[John Singh]

Hi Jonathan

You won’t feel olone here 😆 😆

I know. That was terrible wasn’t it? 👿

Anyway a big welcome 😀 😀 😀

John

[John Singh]

Thanks Scant and Bob

Bob
Thanks for the ref: I’ve printed the information off (19 pages! 😀 )
I shall read it during my lunch

Cheers 😀 😀

John

[John Singh]

Thanks Gav
Lost the touch with Corel since using Signlab for 3 years
However I’ve just opened Corel 8 up and found Corel capture
Very interesting!! 😛
This seems at surface to be a good way to do things 🙂
Haven’t got time yet to explore it yet

Cheers 😀 😀

John

[John Singh]

Hi Henry
Just having a coffee at the mo!*drink* ……and then back to work!!

Taking the dogs for a walk??…… live on a farm??…..

Sounds like you’re a composer, painter or poet

So that’s where you get you’re inspiration 😆 😆

Speak to you soon

John

[John Singh]

Thanks Guys

Now all I need now are few moments to try it all out

Henry!
What time do you get up in the morning?? 😀
Do you have to feed the birds? 😆 😆

Cheers

John

[John Singh]

Who’s this Harry Mattias?
Is he connected to Edward Mathias the plotter knive sharpener? 😕
How much is he asking for.. for the kit?

John

[John Singh]

Thanks Bob

Not used screen inks before. Is it the same consistency as paint? Can it be applied by brush or roller??

Cheers

John 🙂

[John Singh]

Thanks Phill

Sorry!
Should have explained the customer wants a certain colour ( a kind of terracotta- burgundy) to match their catalogue. As you know you can’t always get the colour you want with vinyl.

The thought passed my mind that I could initially cover the forex in vinyl and then paint the vinyl!!!

The long way round??? 😕

[John Singh]

Thanks Peter:

Useful information. Its seems like the paint’s holding well. Thanks for the visual.

Its just that I’ve got to use gold leaf on the lettering over a quite a large area. So I wouldn’t want the background paint to peel off or crack.

The forex top has a brilliant gloss finish but I wonder if it might be best to rub it down with a fine 400 or something to provide a key and then undercoat it??? 😕 😕

Cheers!

John

[John Singh]

Hi Henry 🙂
Good to hear from you
I can see that this is going to prove a great forum

Keep in touch

Regards
John