cscs cards

[Fat Bob]

Hi John

Actualy its sort of in Force alreadyBut dont Worry if your self employed and DONT employ any body you can sort it out for a couple of Quid.

When they sort out a coding for our trade you have to take a health and safty test this is a Multple choice on a computer at a location near you takes about 30 min tops and will cost you £15 approx.

I then belive there will be a choice of 3 cards to chose from something along the lines of say – trainee – Work experienced to nvq level 2 – work experienced to Nvq level 3

I belive but dont know for sure but if you can get an employer to vouch for your experience you may be able to be assesed in the work place
Am Trying to find out more will keep you posted.

The Bsga have been beavering away on thier MEMBERS behalf and will let it be Known soon how instumental they have been in sorting out if they can run training courses for thier MEMBERS which of Course you may join
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But By doing some leg work yourself it will be realativly easy and not Quite as hard as it may seem will try to keep you posted when I have
more information.

[John Singh]

Thanks Bob 😀

Very informative (-)

Hope it doesn’t result in closing us small guys down! 😥 😥

John 😀

[Phill Fenton]

Good news Bob – please keep us up to date 😀

Tell you what , I’ll vouch for you and John as former employees if you two will also vouch for me as a former competent employee 😉

[Martin Pearson]

John, I wouldnt worry to much about this at the moment, if like me you are a small outfit then chances are it wont affect you that much. From what I have read from info sent to me by the BSGA it is really aimed at site work. If like me you have rarely been asked to attend a building which is not yet completed then it wont affect you that much. As far as I can see at the moment you wont need a card for any reason other than entering building sites, of course this might spread to include shopping malls etc but shouldnt affect most of the work that we do as a small company. It might however be worth obtaining if not to expensive so if you do get a call from a company who are looking for someone quallified you are the local company that is. Like Bob if I get any more info from the BSGA I will update you all.

[Fat Bob]

Hi Guys

Yes martin your right But imagine this..

Please can we have a sign …. Yes Sir Where would you like it fitted.
Oh Thats ok well fit our selves could you deliver it to this adress ..thank you.

You make it throw it in the van get to this building site and guess what you cant even deliver it because you havent got a delivery drivers or regular visitors cscs card.

Or how about nipping down the road to a wimpey housing estate to put up an estate agents board but you cant cause their still building down the other end ofthe street and the road has not been adopted by the council yet and its still a building site officially no card….

Now the + side you see some guys putting up some arcitectural arcitecture
Thats designer….. for a metal sign that looks naff and cost more than we earn in a yearand you casualy inquire and find out that thier just a couple of site operatives and are not holding a cscs card as A SIGNFITTER well you could cause a riot could you not or even offer to help that poor site manager from breaking the law by giving you 40 Quid an hour to prvent him using someone who is not qualified.

add to this that one famous high street retailer alledgedly will not let you even stick window graphics on without one. go a stage further and assume in a few years time the insurance companys might not insure you
without one (Maybe) and do you still think this will not affect you in
anyway……………… Dont Bury your head in the sand face it head on and do it and be the only one or the first in your area so you can stand in the front of the que when they find that they have to give the job to a Qualified man and smile as you give them the bill and ask them for a check up front. cause you can. 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛

[Phill Fenton]

I was talking to a builder friend of mine today who runs a Dry Walling company that specialise in putting up timber and plasterboard walls. All his employees have to carry these cards or they can not get work. He says the system is an absolute joke. It was put in place as a knee jerk reaction to quality and safety problems in the building industry. The cards are easy to obtain and the assesments involved bear little resemblance to the real world. He is appalled that industry leaders put this type of system in place to show that they are trying to improve the safety record of the building trade. The root problem is pricing. All construction work goes to the lowest bidder, which means corners are cut in an attempt to win these contracts. What is really needed is a revision of values – in other word “a fair days pay for a fair days work”. The climate in Britain is for lowest prices at any cost much to the detriment of many once thriving businesses. The CSCS scheme is not the answer to the problems of accidents in the building industry. A culture change is what is required, whereby safety is paid for by adequate pricing – not papering over the cracks by introducing worthless “Cards” which any numbskull can obtain.

[John Singh]

Thanks Martin & Bob

Just beginning to get a picture of what this all about (-)

Kinda reminds me of the times in the 70’s when I was a HGV driver and sometimes couldn’t get into the docks because I didn’t have a union card ………but I still was able to carry out my job as a driver delivering to other places.

John 😀

[Martin Pearson]

Hi Bob, I take onboard what you are saying and yes I agree with you that in time it could grow to encompass all forms of sign installation, but at the moment it doesnt so there is no point people like John panicing that they may be out of business in a few months time.
Lets just wait and see what is to be inplemented for signmakers, where the courses will be available and how you go about getting on a course(then we can start panicing !!!). As I said in the previous post if it is affordable it would be worth doing so you were the local sign company that was qualified. I shall be keeping a look out for info from the BSGA to try and stay ahead of what is going on.

[Fat Bob]

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[Fat Bob]

Martin think about what we are writing here

dont take Anybodys word or Associations do some leg work of your own
and find out what it costs for a one man band you will be quite happy.

Or would you like me to send you a pm and explain I know phil has already twigged have a word with him.

Love ……FB

[Deleted User]

I wonder if anyone can remember when I worked for them a few years ago?

I will remember anyone if they just remind me?

Yes Phill, my thoughts exactly.