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Nice shading! How do you choose to blend the shade? I tend to stipple the blend. there are many variations!

You spelt Dinning rong! 😉

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Hi Martin

I have just painted some blinds for a local shop. I used one shot lettering enamels. But I didnt stencil. I would recommend using quite a thick paint so that it wont run under the stencil. A thick undercoat maybe?

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Hi Jill.

Thanks!

Difficult to shade on rough walls!!

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Hi everyone.

I have been away for a few days. Blimey lots of responses to the question! Thanks!

My main area is hand lettered signs. I was asked to quote for the window and just wondered about printed vinyl as an option,

When I said bubbles, I was referring to the ghosting around the lettering when 2 layers are applied over each other.

The size is 29cm high by 211cm

Thanks for the help

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This picture is one of a load from my grandmas photo album, there were a load of pictures in it from the 1930’s but behind all of those were these old pictures.

I have my own lil’ dog that comes with me on some jobs….

her names Kim. She’s a Bedlington Terrier x Jack Russell 😎

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Hi Jill

The flowers are painted with lil’ baby robins sitting on them! 😎

Aj

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This is one of my families pets from about 1880!!

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Hiya

Whenever you do a gold job its always good to dab a bit of the size somewhere near where you are working (if you are gilding a window, paint a little area near your work so you can judge the time to gild without wiping marks onto your work!) 😎

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Good Idea. Thanks 😎

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Thanks for the comments! Im going to keep on pushing to get as many customers to go for written stuff as I can!
I am going to pay up sometime! when I get around to it! Then I will truly belong!! :lol1:

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Payment up front from pubs. got it! Thanks

Better go paint a ship or a dog and duck! 😎 😀

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Thanks 😀 I will look into that. The sign is painted and sponged because my airbrush is broken and collecting dust!! Keep meaning to either get it fixed or buy a new one!

Cheers! 😎

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Hi

Thanks for the comments.

The shoe is made from 2 pieces of dibond with foamex in the middle.

Then I sanded down the dibond and gave it a coat of primer (extra grippy) then undercoat and 2 glosses.

I had a good look around at the other hanging signs in the area and none of them had an extra bit of chain down the bottom so I thought it should be ok? but if not I will pop down and fit an extra bit. 😎

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Hi I havent been on the site for a while!

I fell asleep in 1988 then woke up in 2008 still doing the same thing, playing guitar far too loud and painting on walls!!!!! 😎

Keep brushing!!!

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Hi Vicki

You want to watch out if you are sticking it straight onto the gloss. Because you are just relying on the layer of gloss! You may want to get the bit you are sticking to sanded down for better adhesion 😎

Long live the brush! :punk:

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Thanks!

‘see my jugs’ ‘rate my jugs’ The advertising potential is endless!! :lol1:

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Hi Bernardo, I dont think it really matters too much how long things take if you are trying to establish yourself. You want to feel happy with the end result. I think your work is excellent.
I have got a cheapy website, I used webeden.co.uk You can mess around with how it looks! The only problem is trying to direct people to it!

Long live the brush! 😎

[A Misselbrook]

Very nice work! Long live the brush! 😎

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Thankyou for the nice comments! Ive just got back from finishing the job.
I hope I get more boats to do. It was a bit windy and more people moving around so the boat was moving backwards and forwards today! 😎

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Hiya,

Its all painted, but with this window I experimented with using my cutter to do outlines for the side windows and the lowest lettering on the main window. I couldnt get low enough to do it because the inside of the window is built up to the bottom of the window.
Its the first time I have used any stencils but I just couldnt physically fit into a position to write it!!! 😥

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Actually every time I go to Bridport to paint a fascia the wind picks up!!

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Finished!

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Add the gold leaf!

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stage 2! The blended shadow

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Hi Vicki

I would recommend one shot metallic gold which you can get from wrights of lymm, Handovers and Gold Leaf supplies. If you google them you will get their details! 😎

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I really cant remember Karl!! 😎

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William Sutherland wrote a book a while ago (1889!) The art & craft of signwriting. Everyone who does hand lettering should get a copy, its excellent! 😎

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Excellent stuff Joe! Im gonna give it a go!

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Very nice work Joe.

I want to have a go at carving one day, how did you start? 😎

Keep up the excellent work

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Hi Bernardo, I like signs that are done by man and not machine!!

Keep the brush alive!!!!

seeya aj 😎

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Thanks! 😎

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Tim

Very impressive stuff on your site, I hope I get to do a boat because I think they look brilliant! Is there a certain style that people tend to use for boats? 😎

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Thanks!

Peter, im not close to any canals that I know of. Im based in Yeovil. Somerset. 😎

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Jill

I hope I do get to do the canalboat cos that would be fantastic! Ive also just started painting rocking horses for someone that makes them. Ive been trying to track down completely child friendly paints to use. I painted a base coat on the horse and it doesnt cover very well. Its a pity I cant use one shot for it!

Seeya Aj 😎

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Hi Neil

I hate writing in the cold! I wrote a board in the snow once on a hoarding around a new development. I was nearly biting my fingers off when I was defrosting in the car! 😉

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Hi Jill

Hopefully some people will get back to me! one guy was impressed with my work and he wants me to have a look at doing his canalboat. That would be brilliant because some of the work on the boats is amazing and I would love to give it a go!
Im definately getting through to people that traditional signs are cool! I know not everyone wants handlettered but im determined to keep it going around here if I can! Its getting your foot in the door that I find takes a bit of time but once enough people know what you do then word will spread!……….
I think your work is great! do you find it easier to find traditional jobs over there? 😎

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I filled in the gaps afterwards! 🙄

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I havent got a vinyl cutter!! all my stuff is brushed 😎 The white sign was left as is and is not my work. I tried using sponges for shading but I find stipple brushes better to use as the bits of sponge break off in the paint…aaaaaaarrrgh! 😀

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Hi Peter

I either hand draw the letters up or I do a paper drawing, for this one it was a drawing but I want to get hold of an overhead projector. That is something that I used to use all the time and I really miss it! 😥

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This is Kim! She comes out lettering and does most of my work! 😎

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thankyou! 😎 I get a bit carried away with blending the shadows and letters! I love it! But youdo tend to get stipplers arm!

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Very nice work! Your work has a really nice flow to it! 😎

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Bernardo!

It seems we think alike!, I am trying to only do hand lettered work and it is a real struggle at times.
I get really angry at some people. For example I have been into a local chemist (pharmacy) about 3 times because his shop is ancient and the fascia above was gold leaf on black. …Really old but it needed retouching or renovating. I told him that I do traditional stuff, showed him my work and he seemed impressed and told me that he liked the old look…..
I went past the other day and the wooden fascia that just needed repairing and the gold re gilding has been ruined! Black vinyl with a horrible thick font in gold vinyl……aaaaaaaaaaagggghhhhhhhh!! (:)

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Hi!

I havent done any window splashes before. Ive only ever written on the inside….coat after coat, then varnish over the top!!
No one has asked me to do one of those yet!
Do you do the splashes on the outside?
Im not really a speedy painter so I would probably take longer than Jill.

Jill you mentioned latex primer, they used a latex paint where I trained years ago that you painted around the letters, acting as a stencil…sponging colours together…not worrying if you went over the edge with the sponge because the latex would peel off after you had finished. Just like a computer cut masque.
Is that the same stuff? I cant seem to buy liquid stencil anywhere nowadays. It would come in really handy.
Aj 😎

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Thanks for all the replies 😀

Nicola, the sign is all hand painted. I dont have a cutter at the minute. I only do handlettered stuff 😎

Bernardo, Its not easy to sell the idea of handlettered signs here either! potential customers dont give you enough time to do the job properly! They want signs the next day! It doesnt work like that though does it!!! 🙄

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Thankyou! 😀 The red on black seems to work in some lights! I may try a different red, then if it looks wrong it can easily be painted over again. I was trying to use the colours that I think would of been used in the past. Im going to use the board when I go to craft fairs etc.
Im still trying to convince people to go for this kind of look in the old villages and pubs. People want signs yesterday!
I am getting nowhere with pubs though. They are replacing old signs with the (fibreglass?) types that go over the top. The pictorials are all printed pictures. Its a sad time I think. Im just hoping that it’ll swing back to handlettered because thats what I think the old village pubs should be.
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Hi Alistair

I have got some sealer that I have used for slate. Its called HG Marble Impregnator, it protects porous stone. I think I bought it from a tile shop.
The place I tend to get my paint and brushes from is Gold leaf supplies. Ive got a number here on an old booklet 01656 860 109. http://www.goldleafsupplies.co.uk

Aj 😎

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Lookin good!
Nice too see you have your name nice and big on the signage. I always try and get my name as big as possible too! 😎

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Hi!
One shot lettering enamels should be fine for slate. I would just test a bit before you do the whole job just to be sure though!
You can get them from Handovers, Wrights of Lymme, Gold Leaf Supplies.
Good luck!

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I’LL put the picture on this time 😮

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Marcella I’ve just been watching Dracula, ………the guy in it is Renfield. I was nearly right !! 🙄

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Renfrew? Isnt he awaiting the return of his master! 👿 Were they carrying buckets of Transylvanian earth in when you were there!!!

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Thanks for the replies! I mainly just dabble on the computer and do most of my work with the brush so I needed a bit of help! Thanks 😎

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Hi! Ive never tried that either but now that you mention it I think Im gonna give it a try! Let us know how it goes Mirella 😎

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Love the pics Jill 😎 Im gonna get on and work out a price! Just gotta find some paper 15′ wide so I can do a drawing!! :rofl:

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Thankyou 😎

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What glaze would you recommend? 😎 How do you go about giving a price for a job like this? Do you know roughly how much I should be charging the customer for a job this size? He is going to deal with the scaffolding separately. Im really not sure what to charge him!! 😮

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Do yo know how they would weather? Would they fade quicker than exterior gloss, enamels etc.? 😀

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John the script is English presto.

The customer already had cards made out in Algerian. Its not a bad style really.

I either draw out the letters in stabilo first or I use a paper drawing to chalk out. It depends on the job! 😀

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Ive just finished watching the new War of The Worlds on dvd. I thought it was excellent! Now im looking out for lightning! 🙄 Ive recently finished a run of jobs and now Ive got to go out and promote myself again. Ive got quite a few jobs that are on hold waiting for styles to be agreed etc. So I should be going out to all the places around to see who needs new signage!
I went into a pub yesterday and was told that being part of a chain they cant choose who does their sign for them. Doh! I went to the brewery and came out with a bottle of rhubarb wine! It was really nice! Now thats one thing I like to do. Make and drink wine!! 😎

[A Misselbrook]

Nice work! What kind of money do you charge for that then? Did you work out how long and charge by the hour or work it out in days? 😎

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The paints I use are one shot lettering enamels.

Yep! Bridport in Dorset. Its the butchers under the arches! Its very nice in there and I can recommend the pies!!
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Thankyou!
Yep! Its had the varnish treatment! It took bloomin ages cos it was 2 of the same! I tried to keep them both at the same stage, the blending on glass is quite tricky I found because what you see on the inside isnt what it looks like on the other side! I had to keep nipping in and out! they took just over a week, but some days you can only do a little bit so they are not really whole days! 😮

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Master! Oh yeah I like the sound of that! :lol1: I havent done a window for ages. It was good fun to do!

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Hi Peter, the paint I use on glass is one shot lettering enamels. Then I varnish over the whole letter by a little bit for protection. You can get the paint from A.S. Handover, Wrights etc. 😀

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Hiya! nice job! Have you used marine ply for any of your signs? I ask because at the moment I use far eastern exterior ply and I was wondering if it was worth the extra money? Im a right handed paint junkie! 😎

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Hi Carrie!

Yep! I like to do signs that are a little different! So far Ive managed to persuade most of my customers that if they have a sign that stands out it helps their image and business 😎

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Thankyou! The needle is a bit of dowel with the eye made from a piece of timber and then shaped. I gave it a coat of silveer one shot and yacht varnish. 😀

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oh yeah! 😎 Darth Mahl! I reckon I might get it put on my works vehicle (passatt estate!) not quite the millenium falcon!

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may the fonts be with you! 😎

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look into my eyes especially you! look…… 😮

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Look into my eyes! 😮

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Yep! same here! Handover brushes for me! The longer the better!! 😎 I tend to get all my materials from Gold Leaf Supplies 🙄

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thanks! I think I’ll give the body filler a go! 😎

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Hiya!

I reckon the cap is about 2″ 😎

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Yep Its done with a brush. I havent got a cutter. 😎

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Thanks Jill!

I only varnish the signs like the house names because I can imagine that some folk might be a bit heavy handed! 😎

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Hello!

For the house names I give them a coat of varnish because they will probably be cleaned so that way the gold is protected from scratches &c.

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Hiya!
The gold leaf is pressed and suspended between tissue paper in the booklets. The lettering is written using gold size. I use a clear gold size and add a touch of colour to it so you can actually see what you are doing! Then you apply the gold. Its held onto the sheet when you take it out of the book so you press it onto your lettering. You apply it when its at the correct tacky stage, which is something that you get a feel for after a while. Then the excess gold can be cleaned off with a wet sponge and hopefully the gold comes off the areas around the lettering!
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Thanks for all the ideas! I think im going to design something for my car! I dont have a van at the moment, I use a vw estate. Ive already put a sign through the windscreen!!
Im getting to the stage where I feel a van would be very useful! A lot more usable space for a big version of my ad. 😀 Thanks again!

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I could go for the Brian May look? 😉

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I think me n kylie deserve somewhere in the summer months!! 🙄

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😎 Do you find that you spend most of your time looking up at signs and not where you are actually walking? I know I do!!

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oh yeah run while you still got legs cos Grant and Phil are back and out of the shadows!! :lol1: ha! ha! &c

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Its the geetar for me!! luv playin it loud!! the neighbours get a free show!! 😎

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found this in a museum the other day, look at the shadows!! 😎

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john, where can you get the pens you mentioned for chalkboards? would you have to get them from somewhere like Handovers?? I thought I’d have a little go at a chalkboard. Ive always used one shot poster paints for the posters that Ive done in the past, how do the plaka paints compare?? 😎

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Nice job! I know what you mean about the ouline not showing up on the photo!! A lot of my jobs use gold leaf and you only ever see the real effect if you catch it in the best light for the photo. But whenever I go to take a photo the skies darken! 😕 The shadows on old signs used to be a lot more diverse. I think a lot of people nowadays only ever see a shadow that was created by the computer. Aj

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Thanks for all the nice comments! Its really nice to feel that people like what I do!!
Wheres Callender Jill?

Does anybody else decorate their box of trix to advertise themselves? I made this one about a month ago. Its not quite finished but I havent had time to do any more to it yet! 😉

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background is drawn out and handpainted! I traced off some old wrapping paper!!!

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Another pic :lol1: The secondary text is in pink and does not show up so well on the blue. The customers choice. It looks better in the light!

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Hiya!
I didnt really know what to charge for them! I did 2 A-boots! I charged him £200 each in the end, but I wanted to charge more! I never know how far you can push the prices,but im learning! 😀
I didnt want to do a standard A board because theres getting to be a real lack of individuality about them now. I like the idea of coming up with something unique! unfortunately the customers dont always share the enthusiasm! (:)

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hello Carrie!
Thanks! Yep Ive got a few jobs under my belt now since starting on my own at the beginning of the year. Hopefully I can keep getting the jobs cos we took a bit of a gamble with me doing this! My girlfriend works full time and with the money Ive been getting so far we are just about doing it! but I need the luck to hold whilst I build up customers, contacts etc.! 😉
The sign bracket was from Iron Designs, I just rubbed it down and gave it a coat of black!

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You could paint it on the wall or stencil if you like. 😎

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Thanks :blush:
Its just me, my one shot, my brushes, my mahl stick, my gold size, my gold leaf and…….an egg!! 😎

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thanks 😀 im beginning to get my name out there! I was mentioned to someone who was opening a walking shop in the same place so I made a unique A board!!! I’ll try and find a picture of it!! 😎

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😉 I added the name to their A board so they dont just have the bit of paper in the window! I know what you mean though.I’ll try and convince them to let me do them a menu!. The fascia took a few days back and forth, Paint the background (day 1), draw out and goldsize the lettering, gold leaf(day 2), add shadow and white lettering (day3) I did pop back and add the border when I fitted the projecting sign.

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If I was to do the sign to ‘fit in’ that would mean foamex, warping and waving in the wind, vinyl shrinking in the sun and plastic cracking and fading in the sun…but seeing as im trying to improve the area I decided upon gold leaf and paint. The council need to stop shops like the co-op and woolworths destroying the shops that they go into, both inside and out…they need to have their fascias sympathetically written, hopefully hand lettered!
I like the idea of a vintage car with wide wheels and racing stripes…as long as they are painted…mate.

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I’ll try and get a picture! then you can see what I mean! Its the customers choice of sign with my design on it. Its a flat metal rectangle bent over at the end and bolted straight to the wall. I would have personally gone for a nice frame with a wooden sign but at the end of the day you are guided by the customer! They pays the money!