[Angelique Muller]

quote Jamie Wood:

The London Underground one is called Johnston. Similar to Gill Sans, but
not quite the same.

http://www.p22.com/products/london.html

Cheers,
Jamie.

And I always thought it was Gill Sans…………. Thanks for correcting me! You learn something new everyday…….

[Angelique Muller]

Happy birthday from me too!!!!

[Angelique Muller]

I have it on my computer, but I don’t know how to put it on this forum.
If you tell me how to do this. then I can get it to you…. but you can download it for free aswell (that’s how I got it)

[Angelique Muller]

You mean the one use in the london underground? As far as I know that’s ‘gill sans’

[Angelique Muller]

quote Manfred Didier:

Yes, it is incorrect.
You have many possibilities to write this rule.
But if you prefer this words you must write:
“Kein Ballspiel im Hof”
I guess every german will still understand what that sign mean.

thanks Manfred…… I was thinking that it might have had to be ‘im’ instead of ‘in’ (of the bit of german that I know growing up on the border of germany in holland). But I trusted the translation site……
Changing the ‘n’ into an ‘m’ is no big deal….
thanks for your help

[Angelique Muller]

Well, I got into making signs because people asked me for it…..
I do a lot of work painting and decorating and besides the ‘standard’ work people would ask if I could do murals, signs etc. Initially I would order lettering etc. cut out by another local company. But then I figured that since I did the design and artwork all myself I might aswell cut it…. So I bought a Pcut 630. Since then (2 months) I have done a fair few jobs: mainly signs for hotels/pubs/b&b’s ect. I did my own car and last week my husbands van….
I enjoy the challenge of every new job. It is still a huge learning curve, but very enjoyable. This forum is amazing. It is great being able to ask questions and get an answer so promptly.

[Angelique Muller]

quote Lynn:

Angelique why do you want to paint it ??

Lynn

I thought the stuff only came in white and I need the sign to be off-white/magnolia. I don’t have that colour vinyl, but I do have the right colour paint……

[Angelique Muller]

quote Robert Lambie:

i sometimes buy it in pretty thick, even at 19mm and it comes with a semi gloss finish on it as standard. the thinner stuff doesnt have as good a finish but still more than acceptable.

Does it come in different colours then? I was told you could only get it in white….. I need a bit of magnolia so I thought I just paint it…. but if I can get it in that colour that would be even easier……

[Angelique Muller]

I just googled both names and it ooks like both names are brandnames, same product though…..
If you want to paint it (gloss finish), would it require undercoat, or would just a topcoat be okay?

[Angelique Muller]

Thanks Harry,
Do they cut to size? And any idea of price per sq.metre or sheet?

Do you use this material yourself?
It’s just that I got a sample of it the other day from a builder. It looks like it would just suit the job that I have to do…
Or would you have another alternative material: it is for a b&b sign and is hanging of a metal frame. It will have writing on both sides….
I liked it cause it has that thickness and weight to it….(so it doesn’t flap around in the wind too much…I thought)

[Angelique Muller]

Thnnks for that.
does that mean that ‘kein ballspiel in hof’ is incorrect?
(in that case I hope they won’t have too many german tourist staying in the building in question………)

[Angelique Muller]

Harry…. broadband is pretty cool…
Re translation: I got that one sorted, but now my laptop is broken so I can’t do any of the other jobs I had lined up…. Friday the 13th definitely wasn’t a good day for me……

[Angelique Muller]

Never mind the translations…
my laptop in the workshop just died on me….. 👿

[Angelique Muller]

quote George Elsmore:

Kein Ballspiel in Hof is what the free translation website kicks out in German and aucune pièce de balle dans la cour in French

😀

THANK YOU 😀 😀 😀

[Angelique Muller]

quote George Elsmore:

german translation

Zer Vill be no playing vis balls in zis courtyard

any good?

Actually, that’s not going to fit, could you shorten it a bit? :lol1:

[Angelique Muller]

quote George Elsmore:

german translation

Zer Vill be no playing vis balls in zis courtyard

any good?

:

D Very funny!! And what is it in french?

[Angelique Muller]

quote Robert Lambie:

quote Marcella:

…….. I know what you’re on about! LOL

😉 :lol1:

Angelique, thanks very much for taking the time to reply… ill give it a go but ill try a tester first like you advised, probably the best way really.
the paint on the stone looks like a sort of poster paint and is deteriorating with age. i just didnt know that because its water based would it react and spoil, but again, i guess i could do a small tester on it on the back.

thanks again!

Testing is always a good idea. What is stopping you putting some posterpaint on a pebble and casting that? I have never experienced problems with paints dissolving, but they were usually solvent rather than waterbased. I still don’t think the resin will dissolve it, unless you scratch the surface whilst it is immersed in the uncured resin. Again, trial and error is a good way to find out.

[Angelique Muller]

quote Peter Normington:

Harry,
you could always try something original

just do a wrap on the rats

Peter

Yeah, good idea: do a ‘Cristo’!

[Angelique Muller]

Harry,
To be honest: I have never bought the small ‘hobby’ quantities like on peter’s website. The place I used to work bought it in big 25 litre containers. I know there are at least two thicknesses available. One thinner than the other (so you buy it that way).
The thinner version is just a bit thicker than water, and any air that get’s trapped is easier to remove.
With regard to my earlier advice: on the container will tell you how tell you how to mix it correctly. It is possible that the catalyst is less strong than the stuff I used to work with so my suggested quantities might be wrong. Mixing properly is VERY important. Otherwise it might not cure properly and stay sticky forever. Never but in more catalyst than suggested as the resin won’t absorb it. Heat is a big factor in casting, but with the small items (rats) that you are talking about it should not be a problem..

[Angelique Muller]

As far as I know Damien Hirst had his horses/sharks etc. in glass cases filled with formaldehyde!
So nothing to do with resin.

I would say that if there is any moisture left in the rats it will eventually start rotting. Not very pleasant.
What’s the purpose of the present. If he just wants to be funny, I am sure you will get a couple of weeks out of them cast in resin (try and get a very watery thin version: less trouble with airbubbles

[Angelique Muller]

quote Robert Lambie:

quote Marcella:

quote Robert Lambie:

INTERESTING LINK THAT PETER, THANK YOU!

what are you shouting about today?

:lol1: :lol1: :lol1: your on the noise-up marcy… thats two posts now your having a go at me :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: back off, i know not to tackle you. 😉 😛

Angelique, thank you for the tips… i have been considering buying this for some time but never got round to searching so peters link will allow me to do it now. i have something made when i was about 5 or 6 years old. it was a large stone/pebble i painted by hand for my gran with some writing on it, i gave her it for her birthday and when she died about 20 years later she still had it in her display cabinet so it would be good to preserve it as it is because its age the paint is beginning to flake off.
on that, do you think the paint will react with the resin and spoil it?
just now i have it in a clear acrylic box but the resin would be great to keep it safe.

Ooh, scary now, having to give advice.. What if I am wrong?!?
Well, I would say, that the paint is pretty safe. As long as you don’t start ‘messing’ in the resin once it has been poored. What I would probably do is:
take a container and mix a small quantity of resin. Poor this, to make a ‘base’ (unless you want the stone on the bottom of the block).
Wait till this is hardening (can be between 15 minutes or an hour depending on how much catalyst, exterior temperature etc.)
Before it completely sets (so it is still sticky) you put in the stone. Then mix up some more resin and poor on top. This way, the stone will ‘float’ in the block.
If you haven’t used resin before it is a good idea to to a test-piece. This way you get an idea of the properties. It is quite tricky to work with as there are many factor influencing the end result.

[Angelique Muller]

p.s. I don’t know much about making signs, but I do have a fair bit of experience with casting/resins/grp. etc. So I am happy to help with advice were I can. However, some more information about the item in question would be helpfull.

[Angelique Muller]

What you are looking for is a clear casting resin, like the link that was supplied to you by Peter.
Depending on the size of the object. For larger quantities I have used a supplier in Middleton (who’s name escapes me…. but I can look it up). It’s about 7 euro’s a litre and you need to mix with a catalyst to make it set.
Mix .5 to 2 % catalyst (depending on quantity). MIX VERY WELL!
Less catalyst is better: less shrinkage, but takes longer to set.
You can make a mould out of anything, or use a container you can cut.
Use vaseline or beeswax as a release agent.
If the finish isn’t perfect, you can sand with waterproof sandpaper and pollish with brasso, or t-cut (or toothpaste if you are stuck).

[Angelique Muller]

You could convert a bitmap into a vector with CorelTrace. Scan image in a high resolution, covert to black and white, and trace. the image will still needs some work, so finding a vector file is probably quicker.
But it does work.

[Angelique Muller]

so what is a reasonable hourly rate for design work?!

[Angelique Muller]

Thanks for the suggestions/opinions.. Much appreciated

[Angelique Muller]

Hiya 😀

[Angelique Muller]

Yep, a roast meal every sunday….. mostly roast chicken… today roast pork…….Sunday would not be right without it. Potatoes, sweet potatoe, parsnip and/or pepper.

[Angelique Muller]

just had some freshly caught mackerell……………..

[Angelique Muller]

Aaaah, it wasn’t too bad after all. The forecast was wrong. I got a lot done. I only had too stop once for a shower. All the other dark clouds blew over…. More rain predicted for tomorrow, but let’s hope they get it wrong again….
I don’t think I can upload pictures as I am not a member (yet…. still waiting for broadband before I do…)?!?!
But if you want to see the mural in its former glory: go to http://www.crookhaven.ie, and click on pubs… A picture will appear of O’Sullivans bar and you can see the mural..
After about 8 to 10 years of the southwestery winds and rain ‘Muriel’ (as the mural is known) is looking rather shabby and is peeling all over the place. I have scraped the whole lot down, applied stabiliser and am repainting the whole lot….
Another dry day tomorrow and I would be quite happy….

[Angelique Muller]

quote Martin Cole:

I’ve had this book for years now Robert.

A good one to have if you wan to get into traditional stuff.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_b/2 … 11&Go.y=12

Martin

I got that book from Amazon last week. It’s very good!! Thanks for the tip. I had been looking for books on the subject for a while but could not find anything.
Thank you!!!!! 😀

[Angelique Muller]

yeah, I initially contacted you trough ‘contact us’ as I had real trouble registering….(I think it somehow got rejected when I tried using my hotmail account… when I changed that, it worked). Anyway…. I read another of your replies that suggested messages ended up in the spam bin… so I figured out that the same had happened to my message.
No worries….

Suggestion: maybe to mention something about it in your automated reply??????

[Angelique Muller]

quote Jillbeans:

Newbies might want to look into purchasing sign-related pricing software like EstiMate.
It allows you to punch in your materials costs and such and come up with a decent bid.
That way we all stay on the same page instead of guesstimating.
Love….Jill

Could you tell me here could I get such software?
Not a downloading site please….. still waiting on the broadband…

[Angelique Muller]

the material the sailmaker gave me wasn’t so much cloth, it was nylon… very thin and light and looked more like a plastic bag (but a lot stronger of course. So the paint wasn’t hardening the material as such……

[Angelique Muller]

When I gave my samples back to the sailmaker he said he would do a few tests on them to see how well it lasts……
As a painter and decorator I have to say that my workclothes, that get washed regularly, the paint never comes out, even when I try….
But I take your point….. Is there a paint you would recommend?
(years ago I worked for textile designers, where I did a lot of screen-printing. I recollect that they added a catalyst to the paint……. : 😀

[Angelique Muller]

with help from my accounting hubby I made a spreadsheet that will tell me quickly what to charge (it is roughly based on prices that other people in the area would charge) per sq. cm surface. It works out fine for single colour lettering. But when you add drop shadows or outlines etc. would you double the price?!? These things add a lot more time (and material), but I am not sure if double is correct….. I did place an order for that booklet that is a guideline for pricing, but have not received anything so far……

[Angelique Muller]

I did a few tests today… and for anyone who is interested: cutting a negative out of vinyl, sticking it onto nylon and stenciling it with a very dry brush with acryllic based paint worked very well. Also spray paint worked…. I showed the sailmaker who was very happy with the result. Hopefully we will do business in future……

[Angelique Muller]

Well, I am working too: doing a sign for a B&B….
Weekdays are still for the other jobs: painting and tiling (have 3 en-suites to tile this week). Weekends and evenings are for signs……

[Angelique Muller]

Thanks for that Martin!
Well I think I have just found a very good supplier…… I woke up this morning ( I lied, 😳 it was afternoon) from a van leaving our place: a friend, who is a builder had left me a big pile of off-cuts sheeting material that I can use as backgrounds…. how is that for service!!! 😛

[Angelique Muller]

okay, thanks. Might do that next time I am in the area for family visits….

[Angelique Muller]

hey Brian,
Are you based in Cashel? I think I might have seen your place…. I am sometimes in that part of the country as my mother-in-law lives in Thurles, just down the road…

[Angelique Muller]

quote Brian Maher:

Hi Angelique,
welcome to uksb 🙂

great people here and always someone willing to help with good sound advice

we are based in tipperary not too far away 😕 :lol1:

look up Sign & Digitial Supplies in Dublin ask for Derek, nice bloke
they do vinyls, app. tapes, signmaking equipment and loads of fittings and are very reliable

or Robert horne,again in Dublin, ask for Suneel in A&P,another good guy
these guys do corriboard, skybond,vinyls, tapes and loads more

Walsh graphics in cork are near you, look for Gail,
they do hexis vinlys and corriboard
but dont cut sheets down 😥 to smaller sizes yet.

best of luck and tell em we sent ya!!!! :lol1:

brian

Thanks for the suggestions Brian.
I have been looking in yellow pages and online for suppliers, but did not find many. I got refered to O’Sullivans in Dublin. They sell vynil etc. but in large quantities. I am only a very (very) small operator and am currently more interested in suppliers of smaller quantities. I bought some stock online from the UK, that should keep me happy for a while (unless people start looking for the colours I didn’t buy……)

[Angelique Muller]

Hiya,
Thanks, that dog would be Maude. i have another one called Louis.
They are fast asleep behind me after their daily run on the beach

[Angelique Muller]

okay, so, I just went online and read the worries. As a new person to this forum I can say you don’t look scary or weird at all!! Going online for a ‘chat’ is still a bit tricky for me. I don’t live in broadband land. And the dial-up of 28 kbs makes using the internet very tedious sometime. But we might get broadband next week or so. Finally!!! So you might here more from me then! Although in terms of signmaking I might not have that much to contribute… I am still learning…… 😀

[Angelique Muller]

thanks for the advice/tips.
re. adding weight: I haven’t a clue, I am not a sailor, but he was mentioning it….
The sail maker is giving me some material this week to experiment on.
I was thinking of using a template and stenciling, but i am worried about paint bleeding under the template. Anyway, I will wait and see.
I did think about the foil that you can iron on, but with the temperatures required onto nylon, I don’t think it would work…..we shall see…………..

[Angelique Muller]

Well, Thank you all for such a friendly welcome (this whole forum business is quite new to me as well)! It’s past my bedtime now…. but I will be back again soon.

[Angelique Muller]

I am a newbie sign maker…. I met a guy today who makes sails, and he asked if I could do it, as he gets request for it…. He pointed out that the lettering should not really add any weight to the sail as it then would not work properly..

[Angelique Muller]

Thanks for the welcome!
Good to see there are other women around. When I was initially looking at this forum it only seemed to be men…..