[Vince Francis]

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If you are approached by a company in Hull based in Courtney Street, Contact me first before doing any work for them! I have a cautionary tale to tell.
gssigns2004@yahoo.co.uk

Hi

Thanks for the info, I have been talking to Rob about something like this, but please be careful that you dont end up doing or saying libelous.

Although we may personally have a bad run with a company, there is no saying that everyone will have the same. Although I personally do not disagree with some sort of warning like this.

Thanks for the info, ps I think i know who it is anyways lol

Vince

[Vince Francis]

Sorry Nic 😳

I saw the post several days ago, didnt get round to reading it, due to the problems we have had over the last few days.

I have got 94 though lol 😛

Vince

[Vince Francis]

What i want 2 know is, how do you all have so much time on your hands lol

I have a good excuse?

94 now by the way

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[Vince Francis]

getting better, 90 for me

[Vince Francis]

Many thanks for the support i have been given over the last few days.

We now have lights / phones & kettle! (not sure what i could do without that! lol)

We should be back to normal in few days

Thanks once again

Vince

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[Vince Francis]

Thanks Lynn

We are covered for business interuption, its the back log im not looking forward to.

We know now, we wont be up and running monday! 😥

We will get though it, im sure

Vince

[Vince Francis]

Thanks Rob

We are heaviy insured, but you not kidding about putting work back! We are gonna be up against it, but like real troopers, we will get there!

Thanks for those who are gonna be understanding (but may yet not know it)

Well least my sanity i have ???? 🙄 sums it up, still dont make sense

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it has rained off & on all damn weekend

Rain!!!!

Tell me about it. I have been trying 2 dry out the factory all down from yesterdays freak downpour. We still have no electrics / phones / fax / KETTLE! Our Insurance gonna love us (chat.)

What else do we pay them for lol

[Vince Francis]

I have mentioned these on many posts.

They are worth the money, and the service you get is 1st class. Have no concerns about what you may be getting into.

Vince

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[Vince Francis]

Hi

You could always get the edge flame polished, failing that a quick cheat:

Scrap the edges till smooth, then use a clear varnish! ‘Cheap as chips’

Try it on a spare piece 1st, but it works

Vince

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Shane, i’m no lawer, but I cant see how any court could convict you of stealing your own goods

You have no legal rights though if you supply 3rd party, not sure if you know that. If you do work for say, another sign company, they put your work on the wall (with all the terms and conditions), they go bust, you are not allowed to touch that sign. This is because the original contract was not with you.

So careful to all when dealing 3rd party.

As for taking bits off a sign, I know fitters who when not been paid have gone and taken the screws back out of the sign, and left it on the floor. They get round this by saying the company never supplied them, they did. Which then leads me to think that you are able to take away a sign you have made, thats not paid for. I have never heard of a fitter getting into trouble, but gets paid quick! lol

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I reported this lot to the trading standards – I even had a telephone number for them (for some reason – their number was not with-held when I last received one of these calls).

Trading standards informed me these calls originate from the Manchester area – but they seem powerless to do anything about this.

I get about 3 or 4 a week, i was getting the same response as you were here, until i was told to report it to my telephone provider.

They, as i have been told, are the ones to put a formal complaint together, so it can be investigated.

Plan 2, tell them you have blacklisted your calls with the TPS, and ask how you got this number!

Vince

ps try and get the company details, as there are a number of them doing this at the mo.

[Vince Francis]

Hi

Give these ago, Vulcascot Plastics

Tel: (01293) 560130 Ruislip Branch

Tel: (01293) 560130 Crawley

I find these really good

Vince

[Vince Francis]

where abouts in the country are you?

Vince

[Vince Francis]

Hi Chris

I have, but in the past have found cutters more expensive.

I guess at the right price i will consider anything

Vince

[Vince Francis]

I’m a Utd supporter, but WELL DONE LIVERPOOL

That shows the Europeans who rules footy!!!

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[Vince Francis]

My old man decided to do the bull ring thing years ago in Spain.

They put you in a ring with a young bull, hand you a red flag, and then watch you get hammered!

He come away cut and bruised all over, but he only got what he deserved! lol

[Vince Francis]

Hi

All we print is the line drawings our guys need to cut out letters. So colour will be of no use to us. Our plotter at the mo is a HP, very good, but after 6 years its showing signs of major wear and tear. We use approx 500 mtrs of paper a month!

So thats why im trying to find a good replacement, at a reasonable price. Im out of touch on suppliers of these now.

Vince

[Vince Francis]

errrrrmm 🙄 lol

[Vince Francis]

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but I’m fresh outta rotten dead rats

mmmmm most fast food places have a healthy stock lol

:rules: no advertising any food places that may supply dead rats!

Sorry Rob

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[Vince Francis]

Sod the signs, I want one of those pit lane helmets they had for Red Bull, it made the race seem much more interesting!

Did anyone see the guy holding the lollypop? With the vader mask on…

[Vince Francis]

lol

sorry i have a warped sense of humour

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[Vince Francis]

Hi

Have at look at these guys http://www.freestart.plc.uk

They put the site together for £150.00, this is a yearly charge, but they also put you on the search engines. It is a good package

Vince

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[Vince Francis]

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Its a nice easy one for a change

lol *rofl*

You not ready for the next then???

Only kidding

Vince

[Vince Francis]

Nigel

Looks really good, like i said to you, rather you than me lol

Vince

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Please dont tell me the end, i not done it yet lol

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you should have access vinnie. only gold and uksg & gold have it.

Nope! lol

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[Vince Francis]

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Thanks,

I can sell her at last!!!

Please offers over 10p please!

Vince

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andrew, sorry, quotes forum has returned to its original satus of uksg members only. has been this way for a couple of months now i think..

Does that mean i dont have access anymore? 😥

where am i going to swap or sell my other half now????? Ebay cancelled my auction!!! 😮

Any reason why this is so? She is getting on my nerves now lol

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[Vince Francis]

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So whens the next one coming, can’t wait

ok here it comes, dont ask me for the answers, as i have not worked it out myself lol

So you are on your own

Vince

[Vince Francis]

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how did you arrive at 1994 ??????

I was given this, so i thought it only fair to do the same. Or everyone would be on here for ages lol

Vince

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[Vince Francis]

So is everyone ready for the next one, now the warm up one is out the way? lol

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[Vince Francis]

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ok, so what your saying is think like a 12 year old??

lol thats how i got it

[Vince Francis]

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this is doin my head in

Cant find dancing man or screwdriver

Have you found all the parts to the puzzle. Its hard to tell you too much without giving the game away for those who have not started yet.

pm one of the ones who have finished it, i would but dont have pm facility

Vince

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It took about 30 minutes, only help was the 1994

That must be the quickest i have ever heard of. Im impressed

I dont think i would have ever got out without the 1994 though. Im impressed that anyone found out how to get out without much help.

I was pulling my hair out 4 sure! It gets everyone going though lol

Well if that one seems easy, maybe i will post the next one then, then wont log onto the boards for a week or 2 lol

[Vince Francis]

Simon, how long did it take you? Did you have any other help?

Brian, i dont want to ruin for anyone else at the moment, email me on vince@phoenixsignsuk.ltd.uk and i will let you know

Vince

is this thing so annoying lol (hot) (hot) (hot)

If i post the answer, then it will not ruin everyone else’s day lol

Have fun

Vince

[Vince Francis]

Here are some clues: This is all i was given, and i never made up the chart below 🙄

There are 13 items hidden in this room in order to let you get out of this
room. If you found:

0-6 items, your IQ is very low, total idiot
6-8 items, Low IQ, u r an idiot
9-10 items, u r normal
11-12 items, your IQ is high, above the average.
13 items found and get out of the room, there are less than 4000 people in
the world can do it.

The only clue I will give is “1994”

All the items are there, as i have found them! No im not that clever, but like Fredrik, i clicked forever!

This is not a 5min game, and i got very frustrated with it, but kept me occupied for an hour or so

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[Vince Francis]

You do need to find all the objects….

There are twelve!

[Vince Francis]

errmmmm well

We did have a guy at school with a very unfortunate name. I bet no-one would believe me, so i done a search on friends reunited. His name was not there, but there are others……..

Check this out lol

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Schools
Merchant Taylors’ School
(Sandy Lodge, Northwood) 1989

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[Vince Francis]

Hi Lynn

They are going around a factory yard, about the height you would see in car parks.

I am guessing that the height would be around 400 – 600mm in height

like give way signs

[Vince Francis]

I know someone who’s real name is wayne kard!

Parents obviously didnt like him lol

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[Vince Francis]

Forgot to add

The paint speck i gave for descaled st/st, these would be wet sprayed not powder coated

Vince

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[Vince Francis]

Personally

I would have preferred to see the CV rearrange itself in a car compacter!!! lol

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[Vince Francis]

I bet its the Election!!!!!

Then i can come back out from hiding as well lol

[Vince Francis]

Do you think they can get done for trade descriptions?

I want a car that can do that, and it don’t say it cant on the ad lol

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[Vince Francis]

The big problem i can see, how will you fit the perspex back?

Normally the letters would be punched to accept 1/2 brackets which the perspex is pop rivited to. This prob has not been done.

Backs can be done one of two ways, either a tracing of the back of the letter, or cut the backs slightly smaller than the face of the original artwork.

Fixing these with locators in the back will be the problem. I guess these have been soldered into place, which will have to be removed for the perspex to sit flush with the back.

If the spotting is a major problem, i can see the only way is for the letters to be taken down, and ask who ever made them to remove the bridges, and fit backs. Ask them to do this as quick as poss for you.

Not unless any one can see an easier way.

Vince

[Vince Francis]

Sorry for the delat, its been a mad-house here 😮

Spec’s as required

BSEN10088 2B stainless steel (descaled)
Soldered together using Blowpipe Solder 40/60 Grade C BS219 (contains lead)
This is used after applying MA Flux & Bakers Fluid no5 (For ‘Keying’)

Spray
Etch Primer – Zinc Tetraoxichromate twin pack etch, JW26/FD Dry Activator
Then high build stoving primer
Final coat – Low bake Acrylic
Cooked at 126 deg c for 20min

These are products we use for everyday use. We carry all product spec sheets, and can supply upon request. I can-not say what any other company may use.

I hope this is of use to you.

Vince

[Vince Francis]

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Drunk when you posted it?

err that as well lol 😳

(chat.) I dont do pics as a rule, thats why its the only one i have!!

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[Vince Francis]

Hi Joe

Sure thing, it will be tuesday now

Guy,

The answer to ur question, its the only pic i have of me on my computer, and i was rather drunk!!!

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[Vince Francis]

Thanks Guy,

Ady, I know Robert will be able to help you more on this, as he knows far more than i do about Led’s. Any construction probs i can help you with.

Regards

Vince

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[Vince Francis]

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I can see that I won’t be getting much work done now that I can log in

wots that all about????? *hair*

Vince

[Vince Francis]

Hi

Depending on the size of the letters, they are normally made from 0.9mm descaled stainless steel, a standard grade for the material would be grade 304. The returns are then soldered together. An etch primer is then sprayed on the letters, a base coat then a 2 pack acrylic top coat is applied to your specified colour. These would then be ‘cooked’ for the paint to go solid and ready for use.

This is the basic’s behind stainless letters. If you require more technical info, just write back, and when im back in the office on tuesday, i will find out what ever else you require.

Vince

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Marek

I did thanks, and i cant wait (hot) (hot)

Thanks for doing that, any time there is something you want, please just ask

[Vince Francis]

lol

I have over here, but not sure i ever had it 2 begin with!

Marek, can you re-email back your address to send this band off to you, i seem to have lost a number of emails!

thanks

[Vince Francis]

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good, means i dont have to pay my suppliers now

oh! lol

Thanks Robert 😮

Nor do i, now that would be nice.

Why was it ending anyway? Or have i lost something on the way???

Is there a sequel?

[Vince Francis]

I have been for years now, and i would always say its 100% worth it.

It is one of those things, they dont seem value for money till you need their services! I have used the Legal helpline several times, and always get 1st class service.

You wont be wasting your money

Vince

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[Vince Francis]

Hi

One of the biggest suppliers to the trade is F K Moore in Ramsgate.

We use thousands of these each year, and have not found anyone cheaper

Vince

[Vince Francis]

Hi

You could try Ashby, they are good

Vince

[Vince Francis]

quote :

so a tape is going to be the best option then?

Blue Peter Signs lol

Seriously, some of the tapes these days are amazing, and if you ever speak to a 3m rep, you would not believe what is held together these days by it!!

Before buying any though, tell them what you want to use it for, and they should advise you of the best product for the job, as so many tapes these days are designed for certain things.

Vince

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Marek

I have in my hands one of the bands you are after, i will send out 2 you this weekend, thanks for all your help

Cookies here we come lol (hot) (hot) (hot) (hot) (hot) (hot) (hot) (hot) (hot) (hot) (hot) (hot) (hot) (hot) (hot) (hot) (hot)

Vince

[Vince Francis]

How lucky are you!!!!

I lived on Vancouver Island for a year, and can say, never wanted 2 come back 2 the UK (had no choice!!!)

You need to move 2 Seattle, much closer 2 all the snowboarding action lol

Guess its much warmer where you are though lol

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[Vince Francis]

There is a range of double sided tape from 3m, off hand not sure of the number, but it has green writing. We find this stuff evil, once on, you have no chance of getting it off.

My advise, talk to them, they have tapes for everything

Vince

[Vince Francis]

Before all the political correctness starts:

I have nothing against the Welsh or their names, my family come from there!!!!!

ps I do like sheep!

pps only 2 wear lol

[Vince Francis]

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And what is the meaning of life zaphod beeblebrox”

Is that not a place in Wales? My family originate from there with a really strange name! and so are their names come 2 think of it!”

[Vince Francis]

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federation of small business

I am a member, i highly recomm these to any who have not joined. There are so many benefits, and the help you get is first class!

They can also save you a fortune

(I should get commission for this lol)

Vince

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[Vince Francis]

I hate it when larger companies hold out on payments. We have in the past resorted to some extreme ways of getting our money, one sure way, but you wont be doing any more work for them, threaten them with a bankruptcy notice, works better than CCJ’s

We have resorted to it, or pass to a Debt Collecting Agency such as CDI. They can seek bad debt up to 6 years ago, and charge 15%!

Vince

I was told the majority of companies fail not because of a lack of work!

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You guys and girls have got to get a life. I mean, I am really starting to worry about you lot over there.

Is this not then lol and yes, be worried about us over here …….. 😉

[Vince Francis]

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Can’t remember what happened when he tried it dead on the equator though

It does not swirl, but goes straight down, so i read lol

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They say our solar system is ever expanding, so if all the other solar systems are as well, would we start colliding with each other?

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Anyone have a place to buy the “Stand-up/Speak-up” black and white bracelets made by Nike? (Not really OT with this thread)
They cost an arm and a leg over here. I’ll send something close in price and shipping over if anyone finds one. Thanks.
-Marek

I will get hold of one for you, as i smell those cookies on their way!!! lol

Thanks 4 that, have fun in Canada, where you going up there?

[Vince Francis]

I’m not getting involved in any of these debates in case they end up a mass one!

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err i know ……….

[Vince Francis]

Hi

Gemini do look very good, but del to the UK can be slow, you could always try these

http://www.talbotdesigns.co.uk/signtrade

They have a very big range, have used them once, very good

Vince

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[Vince Francis]

Thanks for that Nigel, guess its something that will filter down to us one day lol :lol1:

Vince

[Vince Francis]

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3mm Super ABS

With out sounding thick, what is this? 😳

Vince

[Vince Francis]

I can see both arguements, and also agree with both. I wont sit too far on the fence 🙄 but why devalue what you see as a fair price for the job?

If you gave a ball park figure, he may have thought in the first place it was a fair price, or he would not have come back to you?

Only my opinion

Vince

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Mate, being aussie based I have no idea who these guys are. We have had our share of companies that have gone under here too, after appearing hugely busy and successful.

This company just happened to be not only the biggest Sign Company in the UK, but also the oldest, 200 years.

People always ask me how far do I want to expand my company, not in turnover but how many i employ. Answer is, i don’t! Many say this outlook is not the forward way of thinking in business, but these days, there is so much at stake. I would sooner have sustainable work than to start running short at critical times of the year (after xmas being the most notable).

I have always thought, with the number of smaller companies taking on larger contracts, would the “big boys” survive, and have always come to the conclusion, their days are numbered. The large roll out contracts appear to be reducing, and so does the level of service the largest companies offer.

My personal opinion regarding the large companies are, they are fighting too few contracts, and are reducing prices to an almost unsustainable level, just to get the work. Corners are then being cut, and so is quality. What effect that has on all the smaller companies they then sub work to? They want everything cheaper etc which then has a domino effect within the trade.

So i don’t think the collapse of Pearce is just accounting. As quoted to me only the other day, if a car costs £9k and you know its costs x to make, you don’t then say to a dealer i will give you £7k, they don’t devalue the car, yet as an industry, we are only too quick to do so (thanks Guy for the quote, i agree 100% with you).

My other major concern with this happening to Pearce, what affect will this be to many of the smaller companies who have supplied them? I only hope others will not be ‘taken’ with them! 🙁

Vince

[Vince Francis]

I know many of the guys who work there, it is sad, because many wont find employment in the industry around here. Nothing to do with the standard of thier work, but thats the way things are going.

I will also see a copy of the accounts, as im also a creditor, but i know several smaller companies in the area are going to find things even harder, as they have been doing loads of work from them!

What i find odd, they have just moved into a “new” factory, after selling a lot of land, loads of new machines, and more so, loads of work!

I guess we will find out soon enough though.

It also brings home the fact that, even the biggest can fall, but when they do, normally its a big one.

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[Vince Francis]

Is that in Soho? lol :lol1:

Vince

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[Vince Francis]

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Hi guys, this story is not actually true. check it out here http://www.snopes.com/legal/lawsuits.asp

It was not one of the best newspapers i read it in, 😳 The Sun i think lol

Sorry, i blame the quality that the The Sun stands for lol

Vince

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Six is true. A guy in America bought a new motorhome, on his way home he put on the auto cruise and went into the back to make a cuppa. The inevitable happened, and eventually he successfully sued the company for not making it clear in the handbook that the vehicle did not steer itself!

Dave

I read in a national newspaper, not so long ago about this story. Wait for this then, he sued the company & won!!!!!

All because it didnt state in the handbook, you cant do it!!! 🙄 🙄

And we think that its all gone nuts over here! We not far behind

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Nice one Vince, now stop ( ~ )ing around and send those s/s letters up to me.

Which ones are they? Have been off a few days, and one day back, and the grey matter has got fused 2gether!!! lol

Here’s another forum 4 everyone. Can you trust to leave your family members in charge when you take time off!!

Only kidding, i just know i cant lol

Dave help me out please

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Good luck John, I had the very same problem the other day!

Have to admit, we did have problems getting an exact match, I know this aint gonna help none, but i’m sure you can………. somewhere….

Very vague response there by me 😳

Vince

[Vince Francis]

I think it was used on a Hed Kandi CD, hey who cares

Still looks really good

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[Vince Francis]

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What will happen if that drive crashes ………you will loose EVERYTHING!

I’m sure a computer boff will be able to restore the hard drive if it does.

Its when you pour soldering flux in your laptop and fry it that you cant 😳 Yep thats what i did at work.

Guess i wont try that one again. I only backed all the info up on CD the day b4, so i have 2 thank myself lucky i did. It always pays to back up important info

(mmmm gonna do it more often though lol)

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[Vince Francis]

Looks classy, I like the look.

Did you get the idea from “Hed Kandi” artwork?

Vince

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[Vince Francis]

Thanks guys

Thought sorting out our sprayer with colours was a pain!!!! This stuff is worse lol

No doubt you will all see another post later asking more or less the same lol

Vince

Rob, i uploaded my ugly mug shot last night, on add your picture bit, dont tell me it was that ugly the machine deleted it?

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Pantone 188c is quite close to mactac 9859-05. Will be cheaper than Pantone vinyl too! How finiky is your customer?

Not really, i think he is colour blind really! 🙄

Vince

[Vince Francis]

Robert

I have been told that does not have to be exact, but close match will do!

If i call Cox’s will they give something close? This is not an area we get involved with to often, does it show lol

ps did my pic upload?

[Vince Francis]

ps

I also agree with the earlier statement…

The biggest cowboys are the clients who then dont pay for the work!!!

[Vince Francis]

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Dewi, I’m afraid I have to disagree with you having just read Mikes post, there is at least one cowboy on the boards and that is me.

I sometimes struggle to get enough work so I’m definatly not making a quick buck but I am in the unfortunate position where I can’t afford to turn a lot of work away.

I agree with andrewkerrb on this. You have been supply signs for 5 years, you may not think they are the best, yet do we all think this way at some time or another. If your client is happy, does that not mean you have done your job? To have been doing this for 5 years is an achievement, that you should pride yourself on.

Just look at the posts asking for second opinions etc regarding work or future work, this is where this community stands out from anything else i have ever seen before.

The Sign industry has been wanting something like this for years. Rob you are a star :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:

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Vinny

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I wonder which company that could be???

I would rather not say!!! They are very big though.

My experience is that, some of the larger companys do try at times to cut as many corners as they can, and to make signs as cheap as they can. Yet we can only dream of the resources they have!

I doubt this is unique to just our industry though.

Vince

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Hand’s up who are cowboys in the world of sign making, I’m constantly getting fed up with the amount of crap sign makers coming into the trade, they got no experiance about materials and slap any old (oh i swore !) that they can their hands on onto customers signs.

Hi

This is not just new companys who do this though. I wont say who the company was, as they are very large!

We had to correct a sign that had fallen apart, the thickness of materials used was too thin, the fixings used were 1/2 brackets, worse was they were not plated, so had rusted. This caused the letters to fall off the wall.

The sign was for a major hotel chain, so not even a one off!

To say that someone is a cowboy being new to the trade, is not always fair. To say the sign is no good just because we dont like it, is also not fair. Maybe if thier client was not happy, i would agree, but everyone has to start and learn somewhere.

I have been around the trade for a while, yet i have learned so much from these boards that i did not know. I only hope i can pass on my technical experience to others, which will help them out, even if they have been around for a while, we dont all know everything.

Im not being negative to your response, but feel that you may have been a little harsh.

Vince

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ps vince is an alias for Yul Brynner lol

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Hi Eddie

I have used these for a while, and have had no problems. I would not lightly recom any supplier or product lightly, and i am sure most do understand the differences in compatables, but when i could buy a new printer with the savings i have made in less than 5 purchases, i think you will understand why i have recom these.

I do appreciate that for really expensive printers, i myself may think twice, for everyday printers though?

Vince

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[Vince Francis]

Terry

Thanks for that, they are good prices

Vince

[Vince Francis]

Hi Daz

Have you used http://www.kellys.co.uk? Try this link, it has almost everything

http://www.kellysearch.co.uk/results.as … et+Digging

Vince

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[Vince Francis]

Hi

We get ours from a local security firm called Chubb.

Hardware shops are a good bet, or if you get stuck, just say so on here and i will get it for you, and post it on.

Vince

[Vince Francis]

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What’s the south east coast like? I’ve never been down that way and I’m open to suggestions for interesting places to visit.

err I’ve still not found somewhere! lol

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[Vince Francis]

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So what do I do now?

Well i have tried the drink even more option! lol

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[Vince Francis]

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5am im off a long drive to fit built up letters with LED’s should be nice once complete but not looking forward to the lack of sleep.

Or the injury’s lol

Do you have private medical cover, cos i bet they make a fortune out of you!!!!

😛

[Vince Francis]

I have been thinking about getting an LCD tv

http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/home_av/tv … 380,00.htm

This explains several differences between Plasma and LCD

Hope it helps

Vince

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[Vince Francis]

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I was feeling like I was being niaive (excuse spelling), and being my own worst enemy by not presuming that the list prices are over-inflated and that we are meant to ask for discounts!

Now there’s where i would never take list price!!!

If i was you, i would call in several suppliers, and ask them for the best prices, and dont be fooled by the…..”we are giving you an 85% discount” talk!

If there are prepared to sell you something for £10, all suppliers will have different list prices, so %discount means nothing!

Haggling the prices to begin is nothing new, and the sales reps are all used to it

I hope im not teaching you to suck eggs!!!