Matty Goodwin
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As Andy says…
Outdoor vinyl shouldn’t shrink so obviously done on the cheap or a long time ago.
The glue will easily clean off but if you do be aware that ghosting will be there and customer will need to no this
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All the best to you Ben.
Or john/Edward…Jedward!
Sorry but its the pic….
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Cheers Peter
fleabays cheaper! Maybe Tesco will sell them…..
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Hi Lynn
I have an orange one and its still the same as day 1, I’ve had it over 2 years now and wouldn’t have my tea in anything else!
I have seen them about bout not sure where to buy them! Thought someone here might be producing them!
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Harry!
There the babies…I want a set, not full pantone obviously!Anyone offering….
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General election May 6th
Vote…
Conservative…
Labour…
lib Dem…
Tesco…..won’t be long….
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As Lynn says, depends on customer budget! To be honest if they want the sign on correx then the budget is low. Don’t waste time and money trying to make there sign look better than paid for!
Have you charged for design time or just material/fit?
Matt
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Havn’t you asked already but re-worded the question? Mmmmm????
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Hi Phillip
Yes it will distort the print, more noticeable if its text!
Depending on the material and fitting the recess shouldn’t be a major problem. Just be aware if your stretching material up to 2" you risk splitting and colour loss.
Good luck!
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Will Tescos offer plotters for £150-£200 so that more people can be sign makers?
(Ebay do…..)
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I thought the forum was for advice/help on sign related topics not a ‘running around ’cause I can’t be bothered to look’ forum…
Sorry….
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I stand corrected….. 😳
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Hi!
Why do you need to laminate straight away? If you no the jobs coming up why can’t you let the print degas before laminating?Are you really wrapping wet? See previous threads!
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Philip mate, put the job back or plan further ahead.
Sounds harsh but it won’t work and will cost you more, money and potentially customer. If a jobs worth doing, its worth doing properly.
You can’t cut corners with wrapping, explain to your client about the laminate/hols ect. It will save you soo much hassle in the future.
Good luck mate and hope it works out.
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Ah, but if you fit over it it will hold the window in! 😀 😀
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Im pretty sure its a April fools joke Peter….
Who would fit an un-laminated print and brush/spray laminate afterwards?
Don’t get it myself….
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Are you brushing it on, rolling it or spraying?
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As Andy said!
Point out to the customer a wrap isn’t an alternative to a spray job.
Also, you can’t polish a terd…!!
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1. Why?
2. How?
3. Why?!!!!!
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Totally agree John, plus they look better and make better coffee!
Only issue I would have is time off to kids illness etc and physical power but as they a lot to gain from a descent job they would tend to make better employees. My wife helps me out alot of the time.
Also worth considering is that the unemployed of over 6 months are given two £500 vouchers. One is given to the new employer at the start of employment, the second after 3 months of working for you so you basically get £1000 to take a guy/gal of the dole.
Food for thought…
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Good luck!
Hope it works out for you!
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Hi Nick
Its definitely the right problem to have!
Whats the nature of your business?
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Hi Kieron
You’ll get loads of help from the guys here regarding sign/print etc but asking for freebies and how to get customers may get peoples back up!
We all want more work and have spent years building up reputations.
Are you working from premises or a plotter in your bedroom?
No offense intended but needs to be asked!
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There is options for better quality ones for a few pound more.
Do I sound like I work for them?
Its quite scary when I read it back…
Do you do cards yourself Tim?
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Good point Neil..and very valid!
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Funny that…they said the same about you…
(grab)
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quote Tim Painter:Vista Print..cough….no comment.
?????
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Like it! But personally the left hand side looks like it was measured wrong and could do with being stretched to meet the top of the beading like the bottom.
Oh, and you have shot Barny….
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Sorry to all you guys who do do business cards but 500 business cards…printed to your own design for free plus a few ££s p+p at vista print.
I no I’ve had a fair few done and charged the customer for them… 😳 😳 😳
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Hi Warren
Original post being 1.5m x 800mm window to be blacked out.
How much would a glazier charge to come out and look at it?
Then getting a customer to sign a disclaimer?
I may be wrong but I certainly wouldn’t pay to have a window blacked out only to sign to say if its breaks ive got to replace it!
Would you pay a mechanic to change your gearbox and sign a disclaimer to say it might right your car off?
Maybe I’m being nieve….
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I hang my head in shame and curl in a ball in the corner!
Seriously tho, If a customer asks for a window to be ‘blacked’ out do you..
A. Walk away
B. Advise him on what might happen and loose the job/risk doing it
C. Fit the job and when he comes back with broken window deny all knowledge
Curious to no peoples thoughts…
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Too true Robert..
Vws was changed to Vws2 which is a more usable material. I’ve never none it to show vehicle colour through before! Maybe to stressed or too much heat?!!
Macfleet quite rightly so…It loves you if you love it! Too cold, it snaps, to warm its like fitting clingfilm. As with all wrapping, environment is detrimental!
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Fill tool…Signlab
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The list is endless…As I’m sure you’ll hear!
It’s a matter of preference. For me VWS all day every day (KPMF) but each to there own!
But remember, If printed it needs to be laminated, regardless of the vinyl, I’ve never wrapped a vehicle in single colour vinyl that has been laminated.
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Andy!
Are you trippin’ mate?
I fitted black vinyl at Mc Donalds windows in their drive thru at over 30 restaurants over the last couple of years and not one has cracked, broken or shattered!
As far as Andy T says yes the material is Blockout. Its used to stop light showing through on banners etc..
I’d love to here if black vinyl has broken anyone elses windows tho! (sorry Andy G)
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Shock! I agree withe Peter!
Personally I wouldn’t go to see a customer for £70 let alone sign his van!
Can I ask what overheads you have..ie. plotter premises or (no offence) are you running a plotter from your bedroom and buying 6 month vinyl of freebay?
Sorry but someone had to ask!
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As regard to question about vehicle wrap cutting print..
As long as its printed to fit the vehicle ie tiles and its cut to the prints bleed then the fitter adjusts to suit.
hope this makes sense…
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Hi soyeb
As Luke said…
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Hi stuart
I would and please listen, would only ever fit a bonnet wet/misted if the the vinyl was too tacky or it was to hot.
If you read was was posted throughout this thread you will understand and grasp reality.
If all sign companies could wrap, I’d be out of a job. If all wrappers could produce vinyl, sign companies would be out of jobs!
The two gel together but never the twain shall meet…. (chat.)
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Phill :funky:
Chris thought you were bored of this thread!
Stuart…Do a course or get aprofessionall in!
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If only…. 😀 😀
Speak soon 😛
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I agree Peter and as I said I wouldn’t wrap anything wet unless the circumstance demanded it.
Just for the record if you think a fin of a 747 is flat….think again!
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Sorry Chris are we boring you? 😀 😀 😀
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quote Robert Lambie:matty, what if the product/wrap fails, who is to blame then and do you still get paid?
Unfortunately Rob thats the nature of our business. We can go and try to resolve the issue but if its a material failure we don’t have a leg to stand on. The customer is always right! We just explain the situation and advise on materials to start with…not that they listen!
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Just to add for Peter…
A bonnet is a large surface which is horizonta and fitted as suchl. A recessed panel is usually fitted vertically top to bottom so more control of the vinyl is had!
A good fitter can fit all day every day top to bottom on sides of vehicles, a good wrapper can do bonnets day in day out!
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Sorry Peter, I should have said, we fit a lot of aircraft abroad and in India, italy, New Zealand it does get hot sitting in a cherry picker 40 ft up on tarmac!
Yes water is a cooling agent but as John rightly points out, its all about materials and conditions.
As a fitter I no what is ideal, but 65% of customers want a wrap done with there choice of materials and there conditions.
We have to work with what were given or no pay!
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Hi Martin
No probs!Great point Rob BUT along with the water where does the air go….?!!
Just to clarify with Peter, I’ve been wrapping over 8 yrs and running my wrapping business for over 2yrs and there are times water is necessary.
we can’t determine our working environment or materials.
If you turn up to a job and its 90 degrees in the shade and you’ve got 9800 series vinyl there’s no choice but to do it with a misting.
Definitely only on bonnet and NEVER where there’s a recess
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Hi Martin
As I said earlier, I personally would never apply anything wet, be it a wrap or flat panel, saying that windows I would yes!
The point I was trying to make is, if you have never wrapped anything before then a small ‘mist’ of spray does make life easier say on a bonnet. It will take 10 times longer to fit but it can be done.
Question being…If you had a ‘one hit’ wrap to do, no experience, would you do it wet?
Answer…NO! Unless you’ve got 5 days to spare and money to burn, get a professional in to do it! We sound expensive but a days labour versus the heartache and time is more cost effective! There is also the wrapping courses…..
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With flat panels I don’t see any reason not to do them wet but as Rob said, if your competent enough to do a wrap you’ve got no need to do it wet!
I run a wrapping business and under NO circumstances would we ever use fluids on a wrap.
Good luck!
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It just says ‘TNT’ to me…sorry!
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Hi John
As Colin rightly pointed out, there are many instances where the road would be needed to closed to the public. This is a very long winded procedure and a lot of form filling/method statements etc..
Least of all an access license and insurance will be needed!
Don’t just turn up with the banner and a set of ladders…you WILL regret it!!
Matt
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So my wife says…..Car that is!
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I bought some of this a few years ago…can’t find it anywhere…
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While typing this it seems to have jumped to another question! Sorry guys!
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A. Show them a proof of finished print colour
B. If the wrap is fitted by a competent skilled fitter, there’s no reason for the customer to return the vehicle.
Failing that there’s always disclaimers…but don’t be surprised if the customer goes elsewhere!
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These Crap chinesse Cutters and flea-bay are going to ruin this business.
quote :Don’t quite understand how fleabay or cheap plotters can ruin the sign business! I’ve been in the trade for over 23yrs and have very good friends who use ‘chinese plotters’ and when they break, replace them cheaply. I advise them to buy a descent well known brand but if there happy, there happy. At no point has it ‘ruined’ my business and nor has fleabay.
Quite a flipant comment to be honest.
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At a previous workplace I worked at we did a lot of this for car showrooms. We pinted in reverse on jvc-3 and cut on sumo.
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Personally I use any cotton glove, any good chemist sell them, but I do have Avery ones, bit pricey but they do last well and all print supplies do a descent glove too.
A more important investment is a temperature controlled heatgun!
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Have you tried a system restore? Just a thought.
Oh and an anti-cousin password on the Pc!!
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Hi Bob
Yes definitely need a glove! It reduces the friction. Others no doubt will say invest in one of the 3m rollers, not my cup of tea but some fitters swear by them!
In answer to the ‘zip’ effect that normally is caused by the vinyl being too hot. Wrapping takes a lot of patience and time, remember, less is more!
It also occurs if heat is applied to wet vinyl! Are you doing the wrap wet?
Regards…Matt
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I’d be Dr Who
Travel around the universe destroying all other vehicle wrappers!
(:) (:) (:)
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Harry!
What have you given up….
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quote :Finally, petrol vapour being heavier than air, never do it in a confined space, and certainly not over an inspection pit or anything like that. Just make sure that there is a good air flow around and under the vehicle and even a slight breeze will dissipate the vapour. For that reason we wouldn’t do it on a still day either, and would prefer it not to be too hot and sunny.
Makes the job so much eeeaassierr. will always uuussse it frommm nowww onnn. Mmmm Need a sleep…
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I bought a box of ‘stickystuff remover’ and as good as it is it is a very messy product to use, and leaves a residue that vinyl won’ adhere to.
Great for getting labels of jars and chewing gum etc. but would never use it on big vinyls.
3m all the way for me!
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Cherwell Sign Supplies
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I know…I paid. It was a matter of course for the job I was on.
Original thread was about BIG SIGNS and I think now he now has food for thought…
Talking of which….Im having me diner! No, babies up, have it later! -
to John…I had to get a beer!…
To Peter…its IPAF operator training certificate, for operating scissor lifts and self propelled boom machinery.
http://www.ipaf.org
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I apologise to all and take it all on board! Every time I post a reply 3 people have got in before me!
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So if you took delivery of a cherry picker, took instructions how to ‘drive’ it and then drove it over rough ground carrying a 8′ X 4′ perspex sheet and ran it into the customers car your insurance would cover it?
Can I have their details please?
For me to cover my liability insurance for my fitting services, an access license was mandatory.
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This ones for you Peter….
I’m a ‘newbie’ with over 23 years experience within the sign trade, as some of the Gold Members will verify.
I certainly see you point but surely if this forum is for established signmakers only then it should be subscription based only?
I personally couldn’t see any reason to be bronze, silver or gold member apart from getting together at social/business gatherings!Sorry Rob and all Members…. 😥 😥 😥
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Just my input…….To hire a cherry picker/scissor lift you need/should hold an access license or your liability insurance will be not be covered.
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I’ve been wrapping on a self employed basis for 3 years now, wrappng as a job for 8 years and although I think the tool is good, I wouldn’t buy one as I don’t think its necessary.
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Storm Graphics in oxon have a proper spliting machine. Just for the record they supply the stripes pre-packed to Halfords
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Direct 4×4 do most makes and sizes. Remember you will need tyre and wheel size, there not universal!
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Hi Phill
I’ve had 5 4x4s with spare wheel covers and had my company advertised on all of them. Base colour in black with siver lettering…all in 5-7yr vinyl. don’t really see a need for cast.
Matt
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Hi Richard
personally as designer myself, the right justified text in the top one doesn’t ‘read’ right.
I like the second one but maybe change ‘painting’ to ‘decorating’?
Also I’d make phone number bigger to justify left and right to name.Just my opinion…. 😀
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What material did you use to wrap the cab?
😀 😀 😛
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Why not simple fix locator’s?
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Love the Peagreen! Was this just window graphics?
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Is John Childs the ‘Dad’ on shameles? (Quits)!
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Only a newbie but reading the posts for a couple of years now and got to see faces and read comments including yours…
For that reason hope alls well and take care..
Matt
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3. Returns. Whats going to happen when your sweatshirt gets ripped or because of the poor quality shrinks or fades?? I cant see tesco helping their much after 28 days???
Hi Harry
A few valid points but as for the above (?), my sons school won’t replace ripped or faded uniform after 2 days let alone 28!
Regarding the seceretery getting a box of chocolates I’m afraid I’d rather buy my wife some with the money I would save! (sorry)
Matt
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I agree with Phill…
Illustrator and photo shop for artwork/printing etc..even correl
I use Signlab for cutting tho as I don’t think anything comes close to its possibilities???
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Apart from the accent missing of ‘cafe’ …..???
:lol1: :lol1:
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Excellent Mike!
To make me feel better I got the wife to take it!
Matt :lol1:
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My story…
Wanted to leave school to be a graphic designer (’85)
Got a YTS position with a sign company.
Spent the days blowing up letters from a letterset catologue on a photocopier, sticking the letters on vinyl, cutting round them to produce the text needed to then apply it to a piece of perspex hand cut to fit inside a hand cut panatrim frame to realise the boss had measured the fascia wrong!
Went on to do 2D and 3D CAD as a draughtsman and back to sign design and fitting.
THEN wrapping came in! Saw what my employers were paying contractors and thort.mmm…Ill have some of that and havn’t looked back since, although the comfort of full time employment would relieve alot of family stress!!
As Jillbeans said she wanted to be a mum, I wanted to be a dad and a very proud one now, and if my daughter wants to follow my steps I’d support her all the way. Modelling that is!!
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Just for the record Northampton have the first ‘unmaned’ Tesco’s!!
Its great until you get a problem at the checkout and then 3 members of staff turn up to assist that have been paid to sit and watch a monitor from a staff room!
And that is true!! (KIngsley Park, Northampton)
P.S. And they have two security gaurds employed to keep a look out on all the goings on!
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Again John, I appologise if I offended you.
Isn’t Tescos marketing such that if your there to have your eyes tested you’ll be tempted to buy something from the food/drink/Dvd section?
I am with you on the supporting local shop keeper/farm shop ect. but in this day and age morals are slightly overuled by cost.
As in our industry, quality and professionalism outway the cheaper ‘cowboys’ but as the larger sign company Franchises prove, they can buy in bulk, with discount, and provide a cheaper service without loosing the quality.
Isn’t that what Tesco’s do?
Matt 😥 😥
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To be fair to Nik, the school our son goes to has a specific uniform that can’t be bought at retail outlets such as Primark. They HAVE to be bought already embroided from the school and the price is high, quality poor.
If our local Tesco was to go into competition with the schools choice of manufacturer I would have no problem buying from them, as we all want a good quality product for a fair price.
I would be interested in knowing where people purchase there baked beans….!!
Matt
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Hi John
Really don’t need mean to offend you but isn’t having your eyes tested there just supporting TESCO’s and pushing out the one man opticians?
Wouldn’t we all be Tesco’s if we could?
I wouldn’t mind their profit in my business!
On a serious note they should stick to food and keep the high street for the traders and proffesionals.
Matt
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Here in Northampton we have a ‘company’ that offers ‘Any van graphics for £100 fitted’.
Luckily for me they have a cheap plotter and even cheaper vinyl and a 1980’s clip art cd!
The customer soon realises this and comes to the real sign company’s!
I feel guilty about charging them to strip and fit. Not!!
£100 or £50 suits there budget. £300 gets them what they want.
Matt
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Thanks for the welcome you guys!
When I’m out and about I’ll have to pop in to you Northamptonions for a coffee!
Thanks again to you all!
Matt :lol1: :lol1:
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As Jamie said, used it a couple of times on ‘boy racers’ bonnets to protect the paintwork.
Still not sure what the question is tho!!??
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Hi!
If you go to images on Google and put in NHS LOGO there are numerous different veriations of wording underneath the logo.
Personally Id ring tho!!
Matt
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Hi Pete
Over the years we’ve done many aircraft, here and abroad and yes, the vinyl is special aviation vinyl. (3M)
Its got tiny perforations in it, similar to contravision but not as obvious.
This allows the vinyl to ‘breath’ as the temperatures and speeds are pretty extreme up there!!
Not too sure about about light aircraft tho as only worked on big passenger aircraft.
Matt