[Jean Lishman]

Have been looking for a little machine like this for a while but a little confused too at the roll width of 500mm?!
This does come with white ink according to Grafityp website – 4 cmyk/5 cmyk + metallic + white.
Hope they haven’t got it wrong as it’s very useful having the white ink option.

If they are 5k then not a bad price and although some are comparing it to the old edge machine, I first learnt on the edge and thought it was fantastic at the time (the software was a little hairy) but it dominated for a long time 🙂

[Jean Lishman]

Hi Matt,
We use Rotosigns.
Hope this helps.

[Jean Lishman]

quote Robert Lambie:

quote Jean Lishman:

oops! No offence intended to William Smith and as you rightly point out they are a great supplier but yes, occasionally you can end up paying a premium for a brand name behind products — you do get what you pay for though, quality materials and excellent customer service.

Yes, certain high end brand names behind products can result in paying more than the norm. However, William Smiths is the “supplier” of the products, not the brand name behind the products as you are suggesting.
i.e.
They supply various vinyl products from the likes of 3M, Arlon, Ritrama, Vion etc.
Should you go for 3M then it is you selecting the high end brand of their range. You do not pay more because the supplier is William Smith.

Thanks Robert,
Again, no offence meant.

[Jean Lishman]

quote Robert Lambie:

quote Jean Lishman:

Hmm yes indeed I bet you are paying for the William Smith name Neil!

Not sure what this comment is meant to mean? 🙄
William Smith are a great supplier and have supplied our group “UKSG” for years now.
They have a very efficient and knowledgeable team and always keen to help problem solve for us, regardless to if its going to gain them a sale or not.

quote Jean Lishman:

All-Print Supplies that they will soon be stocking the 800 and 900 ranges of Avery. I am certain that the 900 is a supercast and should handle similar to the 951 oracal range. Not sure how long it will take them to sort stock on all colours though

Spandex are an official supplier of Avery media and already do the entire Avery range. If Avery is your favourable choice of media, give Bobby McCormack a call as he has just joined Spandex from Paperlinx and is very clued up on all the range.

oops! No offense intended to William Smith and as you rightly point out they are a great supplier but yes, occasionally you can end up paying a premium for a brand name behind products — you do get what you pay for though, quality materials and excellent customer service.

[Jean Lishman]

quote Gil Johnson:

Hi all,

Knew something was going on a couple of months ago when voluntary redundancies came up.

Anyone know a supplier who stocks Oracal 951? – We have two contracts using this and struggling to find anyone.

Gil

Hi Gil
William smith, Hexis all do a good range and should do cast/supercast, but I have had word from All-Print Supplies that they will soon be stocking the 800 and 900 ranges of Avery. I am certain that the 900 is a supercast and should handle similar to the 951 oracal range. Not sure how long it will take them to sort stock on all colours though!

[Jean Lishman]

Hmm yes indeed I bet you are paying for the William Smith name Neil!

I am now using Avery 700 from Allprint Supplies and these guys are very good with customer service but the Avery 700 just doesn’t match up to the 751 Cast. Have used Oracal 751 since its infancy before it became a cast range and it has always been a fantastic film.

I think Antalis would be foolish not to go after a UK distribution of the Oracal range – there are other companies who supply some of the range or the 651 range and I could understand it if this were a sub-standard low quality vinyl as I have seen these come and go over the years, but this is a premium film that is widely used (despite the new digital media era) and there is still a huge hole in the market now for someone to pick up the mantle with Oracal.

Have you used any 800 series as yet Neil, and does it handle very similar to the 751 cast?
Would be interested to know as I am already having withdrawal shakes and missing the beloved 751!
I have always been prepared to pay a good price for a quality film as it makes sense in the long run for both myself as a business and for my customers.

Thanks for the reply as I am a newbie (albeit an oldie in the sign trade) but just never signed up before – goodness knows why!!

[Jean Lishman]

This news is just awful and feel for all the staff!
I have been with these guys since about 20 years ago in the Europoint days (glory days) and seen all the change of hands upto it becoming part of paperlinx. The Australian arm will not be affected and it is only the UK companies that are in administration.

Have used oracal 751 for EVER…..what will we do now?
Does anyone know another uk supplier for oracal – does antalis do it?
Wonder if anyone will take up the mantle for oracal as a full uk supplier as its a fantastic film!!

A sad day for all —- :shake:
Gutted, but did start using other suppliers over the last 6 months due to lots of admin/delivery and stock problems on my orders!