[Clete Franks]

quote Alex Pirozek:

As Chris as stated, once you have aligned the white scroll gear with the middle of the cartridge by looking directly from above (no 4 i think) you’ll have to save the settings and then the machine will go in to an exchange test starting with cartridge 1 and then through all of the 6 cartridges. Once the pickup of all positions is complete and ok you just have to lift the front cover up to finish the test.
It’s difficult to explain as the service manual refers to blinking lights and button presses at stages throughout the cartridge pick up adjustment procedure.

Thanks Alex for your input along with Chris.

Appreciate you guys willingness to share your expertise to my questions

Clete
USA

[Clete Franks]

quote Chris Wool:

i am poor at explaining and its not easy.
when the manual tells you to do something it also says which lights are on or blinking if you get it right.
opening and shuting the front cover is part of the sequence and must be done at the right time.

you must read each sentence carefully and do as says then check that the correct lights are on before going to the next step.

Chris

Thanks for reply. I think I understand (though it was clear from the start)

Glad to have all you old timers around to help us green newbees out

Clete
USA

[Clete Franks]

quote Chris Wool:

follow the manual and save the adjustment do what it says next and it will do a cart exchange test which requires only one cart to be in the machine in the no one slot.
it will then pick up the cart from the one position and put in to two and so on you can leave it running like that for a while. if there are any failures then start at the begining again.
you must take care to follow the lights instructions and when to lift and replace the front cover. else it all fails

Chris,
Thanks much for reply. I am still confused on how to interpret the part about lights, cover, etc. I have no problem up to that point. Evidently the numbers
refere to lights but then the part of spaces to left or right come into play.
Could you go into more detail?

Thanks so much for patience with this newbee.

Clete

USA

[Clete Franks]

quote Chris Wool:

had very little to do with a 600 but the manual says you only adjust no4 then save, then run the exchange test if wrong start again.
the sequence is a bit round the houses a easy to miss a bit mucking up the whole thing
if you say you have done that correctly then as it had a bad crash to damage the electrical data cable may be something is lose or bent.

Hi Chris,
Explain to me what happens on pc 600 when the exchange test takes place.
To me the service manual is vague on this, of cource it could me me rather
than serv. manual. I have no problem in following service manual up to this point.
Thanks much
Clete USA

[Clete Franks]

quote Chris Wool:

I have bought 2 from Hong Kong and they were genuine but the 60 and 600 really are different they will fit but different set ups.
As said before Roland usa still support the 600 at a reasonable price the last I spoke to one of there techs.
There are many scams about heads for these printers and the big ink jet ones best advice is tread carefully and can you afford to lose your money.

Chris

You know the old addage about a fool and his money.

Thanks

Clete

[Clete Franks]

quote Denise Goodfellow:

I’d be very careful of too good deals, it wasn’t long ago I saw versacams for £4k from the same country…… 1 word …. Scam

Thanks Denise

My gut feeling agrees with you.

Thanks

Clete

[Clete Franks]

quote Martin:

If they are from Indonisia & cheapish then I doubt they are going to be genuine. Could be re-manufactured under licence but more than likely reverse engineered as a lot of stuff sold from Indonisia, China etc etc.

If you do a search on the forum there have been a few posts by people asking if anyone knows where to get hold of the printheads, maybe something in one of those threads that can help you.

Thanks Martin

Good advice

Clete

[Clete Franks]

quote Alex Pirozek:

Also try turning off the ribbon saver feature as that caused me a lot of trouble with snapping ribbons,
Like Chris said earlier – you’ll need to go through all the steps in the service manual relating to a new head fitment and load the correct heat TEI file that came with it.
You can easily go around in circles with something like this.
People still use these machines (including me) so I’m sure we’ll able to sort it.

Alex.

Alex,

Thanks much with reply and advice. Will try this.

Clete (USA)

[Clete Franks]

quote Alex Pirozek:

Probably take a look at this thread, I had the same problem a while ago. It does all it’s setting up on cartridge 4 but should save all the settings and work for all the cartridge positions. If the reflective strip is dirty this might be the issue…. as was in my case.

https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … highlight=

Alex.

Alex

Thanks much. Will try your suggestions.
Nice to have so many members that are knowledgebel
and willing to share it.

Thanks again

Clete (USA)

[Clete Franks]

quote Chris Wool:

last time i spoke to a service guy in the states said that they only supplied the head if they fitted it for a reasonable all in charge.

to wards the end of the manual there is a lot on ribbon snaping and special adjustments when fitting a new head, related to snaping.

does the head move freely across its full width ?
just need to go through the tests etc. one by one
can’t really offer much more sorry

chris

Chris

Thanks much for reply. Yes carriage moves thru the entire travel path.

Will work on some fine tuning on ribbon snapping. I will check out the

thread given by another member.

Thanks
Clete (USA)

[Clete Franks]

quote Chris Wool:

had very little to do with a 600 but the manual says you only adjust no4 then save, then run the exchange test if wrong start again.
the sequence is a bit round the houses a easy to miss a bit mucking up the whole thing
if you say you have done that correctly then as it had a bad crash to damage the electrical data cable may be something is lose or bent.

Chris

Thanks much for reply.
The test with the #4 holder finds no problem with adjusting as this holder is dead on but the exchange cycle finds the alignment better than 1/4 inch
off on #1 therefore fowling up the exchange.
As mentioned ribbon snapping is a common occurence.

Thanks

Clete (USA)

[Clete Franks]

quote Chris Wool:

just looked at a old one to see if that could be used, but it don’t just plug in to the head so thats out of the question.
as you are in the states its a lot easyer for you to get a new head from rolandusa and the last i heard is they fit it as well in a all in charge

with a lot of luck and very carful soldering might be able to save the old one tried a few times on other things

Chris

Thanks for info. Will follow up.

Clete

[Clete Franks]

quote Chris Wool:

welcome

if the ribbon broke and now not printing well might be a bit of ribbon melted on the head.
slip a mirror under the head and have a close look

Thanks Chris

I should have been more specific. The ribbon I referred to was the

electrical one that connects head to carriage board;

Sorry!

Clete

[Clete Franks]

quote Chris Wool:

welcome

if the ribbon broke and now not printing well might be a bit of ribbon melted on the head.
slip a mirror under the head and have a close look

Thanks Chris

I should have been more specific. The ribbon I referred to was the

electrical one that connects head to carriage board;

Sorry!

Clete