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  • XC-540 Head soak

    Posted by Graham Dungavel on December 9, 2009 at 10:13 am

    Morning all,

    Have a problem without XC-540, Cyan and Magenta Heads appear to be clogged after the weekend. (Large amount of dop dropout on both)

    Self-cleaning made a difference but it is still quite bad.

    The next step seems to be trying a head soak though I can’t seem to find much info on it?

    I found a forum post on doing it for a versacamm, though I can’t post the URL here, are the steps similar, or what additional steps needs to be taken on the XC-540.

    Is it necessary to block the drain plugs? (I assume to stop the fluid running through?) How do I move the carrier to allow access?

    Is it just using the normal roland cleaning fluid? or is it a special fluid, we are using eco-sol inks by the way.

    Thanks all for any help!
    Graham

    Shane Drew replied 14 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 18 Replies
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  • Russell Huffer

    Member
    December 9, 2009 at 10:50 am

    You need the Roland tool to wind down the capping station, looks like a hollow bar with one end flatterned slightly.

    Switch off power and clamp tubes going to waste bottle, there is a hole underneath the printer inline with capping station, the tool gos in here and allows you to unwind the capping station, once this is unwound you can move the head to one side manually.
    I used to use solvent flush just stick a big syringe with a needle on into a solvent flush cartridge and draw out, fill up capping stations and return head to capping position, now wind up the capping station gently with the tool and leave overnight.

    In the morning remove clamps and switch on.

    Regards

    Russell.

  • Graham Dungavel

    Member
    December 9, 2009 at 10:59 am

    Thanks for the quick reply Russell.

    Where can I get the tool from and how much are they usually? Can something else not be used?

    What do you use to clamp the lines? would large bulldog clips work?

    Thanks again
    Graham

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    December 9, 2009 at 11:51 am

    Graham, seems unusual that the heads would clog that badly in a weekend, especially eco inks.

    Are you sure your pump lines aren’t blocked from the capping station, or to the waste?

    I’ve had one of my machines for 5 years and I’ve never had to soak a head, let alone 2 heads.

    If the heads still show a blockage, it could be the foam pad that wipes the head is too dirty

    Hope that helps

  • Graham Dungavel

    Member
    December 9, 2009 at 11:59 am

    Yes i agree it does seem odd, perhaps something has got trapped and caused them not to seal correctly?

    I don’t think there are blockages in the lines as there is still ink coming through, from a visual inspection there doesn’t seem to be.

    the foam pad is quite dirty, however i am not sure when it was last changed, certainly not in the last 6 months? Is it possible they have picked up some crap from the pad which has caused a blockage?

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    December 9, 2009 at 12:12 pm
    quote Graham Dungavel:

    the foam pad is quite dirty, however i am not sure when it was last changed, certainly not in the last 6 months? Is it possible they have picked up some crap from the pad which has caused a blockage?

    Change the pad and you may be surprised at the result.

    I had a technician out the other day as I was concerned my black head needed changing as it was missing a lot of pins and was not printing very clean. The guy cleaned the heads with a cotton swab soaked in flushing fluid, changed the pad, and then ran a head clean, the results were amazing. the head came back to about 98%.

    he reckons a pad should be changed every 6 months regardless of how dirty it is. Only about $10 so not expensive.

    Its worth a try Graham.

  • Graham Dungavel

    Member
    December 9, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    Alright thanks for the help.

    I am waiting to hear from Roland’s tech support to see what they say.

    I think the best bet here would be to soak the heads and change the pad then.

    I will need to see about getting a hold of this tool off Roland then I suppose!

    Graham

  • Graham Dungavel

    Member
    December 9, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    The tool and cleaning fluid etc will be getting ordered up soon so i can give this a go.

    Any recommendations on what to use to clamp the drain pipes?

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    December 9, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    hi shane what pad a we talking about please

    chris

  • Graham Dungavel

    Member
    December 9, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    I assumed the big white one next to the wipers?

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    December 9, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    if its the big one 60mm ish sq then it should NEVER touch the heads. it is not a wiper its to collect the ink waist. from what they call mist flushing.
    on every pass the heads print in to the pad to insure that there is no drying ink in the head nozzle. from non printing colours.

    as your pumps should be the new type i don’t know whether you need to clamp the tubes or not.

    chris

  • Graham Dungavel

    Member
    December 9, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    Oh, After re-reading the post he must of meant the wipers.

    I have a fresh set of wipers for it, I will be replacing them after I clean the heads.

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    December 9, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    if they are roland wipers they are double sided

    rubber side towards you, felt side away from you.

    chris

  • Graham Dungavel

    Member
    December 9, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    yep that’s the ones.

    I think they were changed about 6 months ago, before the previous operator left, will get them changed then.

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    December 10, 2009 at 4:11 am
    quote Chris Wool:

    if its the big one 60mm ish sq then it should NEVER touch the heads. it is not a wiper its to collect the ink waist. from what they call mist flushing.
    on every pass the heads print in to the pad to insure that there is no drying ink in the head nozzle. from non printing colours.

    as your pumps should be the new type i don’t know whether you need to clamp the tubes or not.

    chris

    That is true Chris, I probably didn’t explain myself properly. I meant to say it could be the foam pad that wipes the head because it is too dirty

    If the white pad is dirty and hard, it can build up to touch the heads as the gap is minimal.

    Also, if the pad is not able to absorb the sprayed ink, it will effectively bounce back up and re coat the head, which could lead to ink drops in your print if the build up is too high.

    Thanks for the clarification mate… it was late and I was tired. That is my excuse for now until I think of a better one. 😳

  • Lee Attewell

    Member
    December 11, 2009 at 5:58 am

    Couple of quickies…

    Have you taken out the cartridges to see if they’ve got ink in them first? instead of doing something that might give you more grief than it saves you, have you run multiple head cleans? Don’t do the major head clean, just do two or three light cleans. This might save you ink (I was told it takes five small head cleans to use as much ink as one major ink clean).

    See if this makes any difference.

  • Graham Dungavel

    Member
    December 11, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    Yes the cartridges have ink in and have run multiple head cleans, they did help but not enough, still had severe banding.

    The head are soaking as we speak so i will let you know how i get on.

  • Graham Dungavel

    Member
    December 15, 2009 at 9:21 am

    Head soak worked a treat!

    Wipers also replaced and gave the full machine a good clean.

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    December 15, 2009 at 9:27 am

    great news….

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