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  • Working out exact size of signs scaled to building

    Posted by Levi Summers on August 7, 2018 at 2:49 pm

    Hi,

    We’ve got a job to do, the customer has provided some art work and has requested the letters fit exactly as in the photo which means size wise we need to cut them perfect. They have no margin for change apparently.

    The size of the building is as follows:

    Length 18110 mm
    Height approx 6000mm
    Between Windows dimension 1510mm

    I might be being absolutely stupid here but my brains fried trying to work this out.

    Can anyone help me out or suggest a method? Sorry for what seems a stupid question.

    Thanks guys

    Levi

    Levi Summers replied 5 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Jamie Palmer

    Member
    August 7, 2018 at 3:16 pm

    I have just copied the image, made a box 151mm in illustrator (size will limit scaling 1510mm), sized photo behind to get window gap correct. Made a box around the K and then scaled the box up. if you have the rest of the artwork as shown if you match a few letters it should be accurate. I got the ‘k’ as 681mm wide by 864mm tall.The ‘F’ood Hall i got to 340mm wide x 484mm tall. Thats how i would usually work it out. Hope it helps.

  • Justin Atkins

    Member
    August 7, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    I make it..
    MACKNADE = 6320mm x 825mm
    F-7 = 7670mm x 480mm
    Which leaves about 1800mm either end.
    I only make the gap between the top and bottom windows 1400mm from the photo but 100mm can be lost in shadows at such low res.
    Disclaimer: I might be wrong 🙂

  • Vince Francis

    Member
    August 7, 2018 at 6:20 pm

    With a ruler measure the length of the building. Then divide the length that you have by what the ruler says in mm. That will give you your scale for the rest of the calculations. Then with the ruler measure the length of say the larger sign and times it by the number you got in your scale. You can then do the same for the height and the other letters. Whilst it may not be scientific, I have used it for years and never been too far out. If that doesn’t make sense just ask. I doubt you will get that to match anyhow without the original cut file who ever may have made it in the first place.

  • Vince Francis

    Member
    August 8, 2018 at 7:47 am

    I had a quick look this morning, I make the MACKNADE approx. 6440mm long x 800mm wide, the spacing between the windows I make approx. 2215mm, when I scaled the width by the height it comes out approx. 6000mm

    Hope that helps

  • David Rogers

    Member
    August 8, 2018 at 8:01 am

    Any estimate based on that photo will be very much an educated guess as the photo has been taken at a slight angle so has introduced a parallax error into (mainly) the horizontal size.

    The GOOD thing is that the lettering is on studs so YOU can shuffle them around a little on site to hit the specific markers they want.

    Dave

  • Simon Worrall

    Member
    August 8, 2018 at 9:03 am

    0.Make a rectangle into your graphics program measuring 1811 mm by 600mm
    1. Remove the fill, give it a stroke.
    2. Import your photo.
    3. Place it BEHIND your rectangle.
    4. Envelope distort the photograph to make the corners of the building line up with the corners of the rectangle. This might take a few trials to get it just right.
    5. You will now have an undistorted photograph of a building that is 1811 x 600 and everything in it will be in the right place.
    6.Now drop in your lettering
    7. Scale the lettering up or down so it looks right to the customer.
    8. Outline the text, and keep it selected.
    9. Look in the TRANSFORM pallette. It will have the WxH of your lettering to within a few mm.

  • Levi Summers

    Member
    August 14, 2018 at 6:26 am

    I just want to say a huge thank you to everyone here for your great advice and help as usual.

    I went with 34” 30” and 19” in the end.

    The job was extremely difficult as the building wasn’t straight, none of the windows lined up and the cladding was twisted and almost impossible to fix to with all sorts of rivets and spikes sticking out.

    The photo doesn’t do it justice but we managed to get it done in the end.

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