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why are my letters not releasing from backing paper?
Posted by Timmy Mallet on April 21, 2003 at 8:37 pmHad a problem on a vehicle I did Saturday. When applying the vinyl to the vehicle by using the hinge method I found that certain letters would not release from the backing paper. The letters stuck ok to the application tape but as I peeled the backing paper away it was tearing itself and sticking to the cut out lettering.
I have not had a chance to check that my cutter is cutting to deep but what is worrying me it is a new roll of blue and all the other colours I have been cutting there has been no problem.
Timmy…….
Mike Brown replied 21 years ago 9 Members · 12 Replies -
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I always run a test cut of whatever I’m running through Timmy.
Certain colours cut easier than others, black being the toughest, apparently due to the carbon content so I’ve been informed.
I have had the same problem as you but if you run a test each time that might help.
Also, do you use the same brand of vinyl all the time?
Cheers
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Yes I use same brand and type every time, I also set up knife holder to each roll of Vinyl to be used. The chappy from Edward Mathias rang and explained the best way to set it up and since then my machine has been cutting spot on every time, thats why I was wondering if there is a possibilty of faulty vinyl.
Timmy…..
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nah its not the vinyl mate.. more the pressure or somthing like that.
there is a few reason this cna happen.. biggest culprit is the pressure!its a pain when it happens, i know. frsutrates the life out of me..
when it happens, just take a razor or stanly blade. cath the corner of the paper and flick it back.. it just needs a start then it comes away.if you apply all the text & strip the backing this can also been done to the letters part applied. just hold back catch the paper with blade and flick it back then pull away.. doesnt do any harm. just annoying 🙄
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Ok sounds like a look at my machine, thanks for help…….
Timmy…
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Timmy as a matter of pure interest exactly how long did it take Harry Matthias to explain the rudiments of depth of cut setting?
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(sleep) (sleep) hours probably 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
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Hi Tim
The boys are rigfht it usually is the plotter or blade settings specially if you scuff the end of the blade somehow.
But be aware that if you are sure it is the same make and match of vinyl
feel it make sure its not thicker /thinner because it is possible to have a duff roll of vinyl. I have had this only 3 times in 15 years but it is possible
if so send it back and have it tested most suppliers are happy to exchanche faulty products if that is the case. Just make sure its not your machine before you complain or they wont be impressed you. 😆 -
Hee Hee,
Poor Harry,
The most helpful supplier I’ve ever spoke to ( I think the radiation from my mobile for 2 hours fried what was left of my brain!) can talk!
Even more than me…….
Seriously though he’s a great guy and I have much easier cutting with their blades (Steady with that delete button Robert).
Thats my opinion anyway.
Cheers
joe -
3 cheers for Harry Matthias a great character….. the UK talking champion!
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Deleted UserApril 24, 2003 at 2:52 pmCredit where credit is due…
Harry Davis
Edward Mathias & Company
P.O. Box 216
Liverpool
L69 7EB0151 728 7221
sales@blades.uk.com
http://www.blades.uk.comGet a chair and provisions before calling.
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…the technical term for this is ‘delamination’ and it is caused by the blade cutting too deep – right through the vinyl and into the paper backing too!
Different vinyls from the same supplier and indeed from the same range will vary in thickness. For example, the Europoint red vinyl receives two lots of pigment to ensure it has enough opacity (covering power) – this and other differences across the range mean that the blade will often achieve varying degrees of penetration depending on the colour/material. Of course, this is most noticable when you switch from thicker ‘calendered’ vinyls to the thinner ‘cast’ ones…
All you can do is cut a sample first and weed it – or set the machine running and then pause it after a minute, peel back the unwanted vinyl to the edge of the nearest cut line and then lift the cut letter/item at one corner to see if the blade has sliced into the paper.
An alternative method is to pause the cut after a minute and then look at the reverse (underside) of the vinyl/paper to see if you can see ‘score-marks’ in the paper backing…if so, then turn down the bladde pressure!
more soon
mikethesign
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