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  • which vinyl can i use to cut small lettering?

    Posted by steve geary on August 10, 2005 at 7:23 pm

    I try to stay away from these, but for a few customers I do small logo one color stickers for Car Dealers to put on the trunk lid of cars.
    I’ve experimented with most types and colors, but i think for solid colors – the 3 mil works a little better for weeding and also adhering to the transfer tape during installation.
    I see a lot on cars in very small letters and wondering how it’s being done. Never talked to anyone who does them…
    Any Input??

    thanks,
    steve

    Dave Springate replied 18 years, 9 months ago 8 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    August 10, 2005 at 7:25 pm

    hi steve
    have you tried reverse weeding mate?
    basically, cut your vinyl as normal but dont weed. tape it up and apply it dry. remove app tape and begin weeding, you wont loose a letter 😉

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    August 10, 2005 at 7:31 pm

    or, you can do as rob says, put the app tape on, remove the backing, turn over and weed, Although this is a pain, it does work. We use a graphtec and cutting and weeding small letters does not seem to be a problem.
    peter

  • steve geary

    Member
    August 10, 2005 at 7:37 pm

    I usually do about 50 each of two or three colors on an order, Cut weed, tape and cut apart by hand. then give to the customer and they apply them.
    I usually limit to the design to about 1/2 inch letters and although i don’t make a killing, it’s worth the time to do. I can get about 1.05 @
    Recently a customer asked for some with small checkerd flags on them… one color, would be weeding half of the squares on the flag…

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    August 10, 2005 at 7:44 pm

    For chequered steve use Race font, the squares are slightly ofset and when you weed them they come out in one piece.
    your first post said 3mil, was this the height of the font? I know you guys rarely use metric, so have I misread?
    Peter

  • steve geary

    Member
    August 10, 2005 at 7:46 pm

    sorry..
    I was refereing to 3 mil Thick Calendered vinyl as opposed to 2mil Thick Cast Vinyl.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    August 10, 2005 at 7:50 pm

    Steve
    You guys in the states must really try and go metric, 3mil is like almost a 1/8 of an inch, that’s thick vinyl!
    peter

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    August 10, 2005 at 7:54 pm

    try this site to convert
    http://www.onlineconversion.com/
    Peter

  • Marekdlux

    Member
    August 10, 2005 at 7:55 pm
    quote Peter Normington:

    Steve
    You guys in the states must really try and go metric, 3mil is like almost a 1/4 of an inch, that’s thick vinyl!
    peter

    And you guys should drive on the right side of the road. :tongue:
    Just kidding. I really wish we were metric, it would make life a whole lot easier.
    -Marek

  • steve geary

    Member
    August 10, 2005 at 7:57 pm

    peter sorry for the barrier.
    Here the vinyl thickness as well as paint is measured as a mil, not millimeter.

    One mil is .001 or One one thousandth of an Inch.
    (don’t know why it’s not called a Thou)

    Cast Vinyl is typically .002 or .0026 of an inch. Calendered is .003 of an inch.
    I’m going post some pics of what i’m referring to in the s.u.y.s forum

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    August 10, 2005 at 8:09 pm

    Sorry steve, its called a thou over here.
    And your gallon is smaller than ours!
    P

  • Iain Gordon

    Member
    August 10, 2005 at 8:12 pm

    Looks like the start of an East/West divide…. 😀

    Seen the pics you posted and the graphtec should do these easily, just be careful weeding fonts with serifs

    Iain

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    August 10, 2005 at 8:16 pm
    quote Peter Normington:

    You guys in the states must really try and go metric

    what bugs me in this country..i wish they could decide which one to use full stop. 😀

    nik

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    August 10, 2005 at 9:30 pm

    Looking at your pics in the other thread Steve, I wouldn’t have a problem cutting that in cast or calendered. 1/2 inch will weed comfortably. It’s all down to getting the right setup on your plotter. I have found that if the cut is too deep it scores the liner too much and makes lifting the app tape difficult.

    If you ever have problems with small letters refusing to lift off the liner, try warming it first. Not only does this make the tape stick to the tiny letters better, but it also helps to prevent the tape curling up on larger stuff. I think the glue on the tape softens a bit under heat and bonds a little better when it cools.

  • steve geary

    Member
    August 10, 2005 at 9:48 pm

    Thanks G…
    Good Tips, as Always! :thumbsup:

  • Dave Springate

    Member
    August 11, 2005 at 7:26 am

    Hi Any chance of posting that “race” font?

    Dave

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