Which material to use here on a van? advice please?

[Martin Cole]

A solid colour change wrap vinyl, Avery, Hexis etc

Wouldn’t advise 751, you would struggle,

[David Hammond]

Yes I wouldn’t be using 751 on that, Try Avery Supreme, or 3m’s 1090, although it’s going to cost considerably more than 751.

[Ewan Chrystal]

Thanks guys, i kind of knew the answer but wanted the experts to confirm it for me

[David Hammond]

Sorry should be 1080 not 1090.

Is there a reason you’ve opted not to wrap the bonnet with a silver logo?

If cost becomes and issue, you could reduce te wrap to something like we did for a customer.

Wrap the rear doors, and add a curved wrap to the rear 1/4 into the wheel arch. No need remove trim etc and looks OK, depending on the van you can get two side by side on the plotter saving material 😉

I can’t post a pic as they’re all on my phone and are too big to upload.

there’s some photos of a Vivaro and Movano we did on our website here http://www.seymoursignandprint.co.uk/po … -graphics/

[Adrian Hewson]

Would only use 3M 1080

[Adrian Hewson]

as here done this week

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[Robert Lambie]

Based on cost effectiveness, I would say 1080 is over spec for that Adrian, the only part of that job that should be wrapped there is the side sliding door zip u-shape recess and rear door corner recess. a decent cast laid properly would deal with that no problem. However, the 3M 1080 is not warranted or advised for that area you need to actually wrap due to it being a combination of control-tac adhesive and also air-channels going into a double step recess. 3M IJ380 would do yes, but thats a digital film.

Cost effectiveness, I would go with Oracal 970 wrapping film with a regular adhesive system, not air-escape.
if air-escape media is preferred, i would go with Avery Supreme or Arlon UPP.

[Ewan Chrystal]

Thanks everyone, this is my first wrap type job since doing the course – which seems like years ago so want to make sure i get it right.
Would you recommend cutting the logo out or applying cut vinyl to the wrap?

[David Hammond]

I tend to apply cut vinyl over the top, as it’s easier to ensure the logo is straight and doesn’t loose it’s shape.

Saying that I am by no means an expert, and I’m sure other more confident fitters would cut the logo from the wrap.

[Ewan Chrystal]

Think i’m with you on that David lol.
ps, they are now getting the bonnet wrapped

[Martin Cole]

quote Ewan Chrystal:

Would you recommend cutting the logo out or applying cut vinyl to the wrap?

100% cut vinyl applied on top of the wrap.

[Ewan Chrystal]

Hope you dont mind me bringing this thread back to life but i’ve got what might seem like a daft question.
How would you go about cutting the curve?
The material is 1524mm and my cutter is only 610mm so i’m wondering if i should be using knifeless tape?
I’m sure there will be a straight forward method for doing this but your advice would be appreciated.

Thanks

[David Hammond]

If you’re only 610 wide I’d imagine knife less tape is the only/best option.

Now then, let the debate start as to which is best, wrap cut or knife tape (?) …. :lol1:

[Martin Cole]

hmmm.. 610 plotter is no good for this,

I would either lay the vinyl out on the bench if you have the room and hand cut the curve.
Or as Dave says knifelees tape on the van.. but the curve has to be smack on which is tricky.

We did a van on Monday and cut the curve in 2 horizontal sections with the versacamm and used knifeless tape for lower part of the curve under the trim

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[Ewan Chrystal]

Thanks for the replies guy’s. One thought i did have was to cut the curved section using a spare piece of vinyl that will fit in my cutter, then lay that up on the van to give me the position for the curve. Apply knifeless tape along the line of the curve then remove the vinyl leaving the tape in the perfect position? What you think?

[Martin Gray]

What I’ve done in the past Ewan is a pencil,string and a magnet! Mark the curve with the pencil then apply knife less tape to your line.

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[Martin Cole]

Curves look good Martin. good method… I think your way using the vinyl would work Ewan.

Good luck and look forward to seeing finished product.

[Ewan Chrystal]

Fingers crossed Martin

[John Harding]

Hi Ewan – I would do it your way cut the curve on the 610 lay it on as a guide for your knifeless tape – only thing to add cut the guide piece in removable vinyl 😀

Let us know how it turns out and what you would do differently next time

John

[Ewan Chrystal]

Out of curiosity everyone. The standard rolls of wrap vinyl come in 1524mm wide but most of the bigger cutters are only 1320mm with only a couple being 1830mm.
Just wonder why they dont make the vinyl smaller or the cutters bigger?

[Bob Scullion]

You can get 1520 wide vinyl to fit in a 1300 wide plotter, well I can in the mimaki cg130, it fits but you lose the ends, ie, just over 100mm from each end.

Bob

[Martin Pearson]

quote Ewan Chrystal:

Out of curiosity everyone. The standard rolls of wrap vinyl come in 1524mm wide but most of the bigger cutters are only 1320mm with only a couple being 1830mm.
Just wonder why they dont make the vinyl smaller or the cutters bigger?

Just a guess Ewan but a standard solid colour vinyl roll is 1220mm which will fit in all the wider plotter for cutting. Colour change wrap vinyl isn’t generally cut in a plotter so not a big demand for much wider plotters. The rolls are wider so it will fit the majority of vehicles without a join.