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  • Which banner eyelet machine have you got?

    Posted by Denise Goodfellow on August 26, 2017 at 7:17 pm

    The hubby broke ours on Friday, the base snapped. It was a blue hand version, we’ve had it at least 8 years so can’t complain really.

    We’ve now got to buy another so perpaps it’s time to upgrade. We have a small compressor it some of them need one.

    The hand version was fine tbh but after several banners it can be tiring.

    What are my options?u

    Kevin Mahoney replied 6 years, 8 months ago 3 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    August 26, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    Like you, we have a couple of hand pull-lever ones too Denise. As you say they do the job.
    I actually meant to buy a new one some months ago after seeing some automated ones at Sign & Digital exhibition this year. But i have lost the leaflet i picked up after a demo at the show. "typical"
    I intend buying a new semi automated one as i don’t see the point in investing on a large fully automated one as we don’t have the call for large batch orders of banners as such, even though we do a fair bit of them.
    Don’t get me wrong, there are some real nifty looking full automated ones, but i could see how they could be a tad troublesome in ways for the user, with others i would say really need a dedicated area and setup to use to its full potential. Maybe for a large print house banging them out all day long, but not a sign company like ours.

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  • Kevin Mahoney

    Member
    August 27, 2017 at 6:19 am

    We have a KPF2 foot operated manual one, brilliant bit of kit. My wife uses it all day.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    August 27, 2017 at 1:27 pm

    I did look at foot operated eyelet machines as it does free hands to align banner, but felt if i was better moving to the semi automated. By that i mean you still manually load the eyelet but has the automated crimping action/part as it is connected to a small silent compressor.

    Example of manual Foot Pedal operated type and manual hand-pull type below.


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  • Kevin Mahoney

    Member
    August 27, 2017 at 1:38 pm

    My one has a pedal that faces the other way, I place it against my work table & slide the banner around on the table to position for eyelets. If I have loads of banners to do, I generally delegate somebody else to do it as it can be a bit tedious to manually load. I guess if banners are a big part of your workload, an automatic one would be more suited.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    August 27, 2017 at 2:09 pm

    a reverse facing one like you have, may actually be better designed as it keeps you out of the way of the banner, if that makes sense… specially big banners.

  • Kevin Mahoney

    Member
    August 27, 2017 at 2:27 pm

    I think the pedal is reversible looking at the linkage underneath, works fine for us & kills the hand presses for speed. Just need to refine our technique on the high frequency welder now, still finding it a bit of a pain, or perhaps I’m being impatient

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    August 27, 2017 at 3:27 pm

    if using a high frequency welder, i assume you must do a fair bit of banners…
    i can see how they would be frustrating when using as they are fixed in situ so requires the banner to be fed into them and keep aligned. about 15 year ago i opted for the liester banner hemmer/welder which in fairness does the job and is portable. but like many things like this, to get full benefits of having one it really requires a dedicated area and setup.
    yes easy to use etc but also easy to spoil a big banner/s if not used regularly as there is a knack to it. also easy to burn yourself! 😆

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  • Kevin Mahoney

    Member
    August 27, 2017 at 3:41 pm

    Had the leister rep come in to demo it for us, they sent a guy who said it will only weld unprinted pvc! I pointed him to his own website & proceeded to show him how to use it. At 2 grand ish, I wanted someone to show me it working at my workshop, not a posh set in Germany. Maybe he was unfamiliar with it but read the literature for gods sake, that’s day one stuff. Anyway, we used to take our banners to be sewn by a mate over the road who is an upholsterer. Always felt a bit guilty as he didn’t charge us but they got a bit scuffed in his very small workshop, plus he’s always really busy & wasn’t fair to keep stopping him working ( know all too well what that’s like ) Tried a cheap flea bay copy of the leister but didn’t get on with it. Use it to hold the back door open when it’s warm now. Welding is a nicer finish to be fair, a stitch is basically a perforated tear line.

  • Denise Goodfellow

    Member
    August 28, 2017 at 6:03 am

    The small hand machine is pretty versatile. We have a 24ft X 5ft table, we just layout the banner and move the machine along.
    The foot operated version would have to work the other way, dragging the banner through it in between the operator and machine, I can see the banner having loads of marks on it after it was finished.

  • Kevin Mahoney

    Member
    August 28, 2017 at 6:09 am

    The press faces the table & the operator stands behind the press so the banner can be slid around easily on the table. My table is 10′ x 5′ & never had any damage with it. With a giant table like that, I don’t see any problems for you & it’s halved the time with the hand press & much less effort is needed

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