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  • where can i buy a pantone colour swatch booklet?

    Posted by Dayi on January 26, 2005 at 11:06 pm

    Hi all

    As im just setting up on my own im trying to track down where to get a pantone booklet from?
    any advise

    Thanks in Advance

    J. Hulme replied 19 years, 3 months ago 9 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Peter Normington

    Member
    January 26, 2005 at 11:18 pm

    Pantone dont do a “booklet” just swatches http://www.colourmatters.co.uk/secure/c … rers_id=18
    this site is one of many but the prices are much the same
    peter

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    January 26, 2005 at 11:19 pm

    I would imagine most screen print suppliers will have them. Cherwells sign supplies sell them, about £80. 01280 840297

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    January 26, 2005 at 11:56 pm

    There are usually a tonne of them sold on Ebay. Granted, they maybe a year or two out of date as Pantone release a new booklet every time the wind blows in a different direction, but 9 time out of 10 they are still good enough to use for colour matching. And they sell for about £7 – £10… a whole lot different from the couple of hundred for a brand new set 😮

    Cheers, Dewi

  • Tim Painter

    Member
    January 27, 2005 at 8:59 am

    Just have to watch if they have not faded if your buying second hand.

  • Peter Munday

    Member
    January 27, 2005 at 10:30 am

    Got mine, brand new and still in wrapper from e-bay £34.00 😀

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    January 27, 2005 at 11:45 am

    As you say, occassionally you can be unlucky and get a faded one, but £34 for a sealed one! Blimey! 😮 Thats a real bargain!

    The ones at £7 – £10 are usually of reasonable quality, but the price difference between new and 2nd hand, its worth the risk in my opinion.

    Cheers, Dewi

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    January 27, 2005 at 11:52 am

    A saving is a saving I know, but pantone colours are important to get right. I’d pay the extra for a new book. If your dealing with advertising agencies like I do, one stuff up and you lose the account. Any savings made on a second hand but faded book becomes rather insignificant.

    We pay $A200 here for a new book, but I’d still outlay that sort of money to have the up-to-date colours.

    Just my 2 cents

    Cheers

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    January 27, 2005 at 12:07 pm

    Granted, if you’re working for a advertising firm or in print, you’re spot on Shane. I just assumed Martin was after a ‘near as’ match for signmaking purposes. The colour range in vinyl compared to print is so limited, the often minor variations in colour don’t amount to much when the particular blue you’re after is only available in 12 shades anyway 🙁

    You are right though, if its for use in print or advertising, new, but pmgraphics has a sealed booklet for £34! 😮 I’m jealous! :lol1:

    Cheers, Dewi

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    January 27, 2005 at 12:28 pm

    Cheers Dewi, you are right of course. I assumed incorrectly that Dayi was talking ‘print’ and not ‘cut’.

    I find jumping to conclusions is the only excercise I get 😮

    Cheers
    Shane

  • Peter Munday

    Member
    January 27, 2005 at 1:57 pm

    Theres a couple on there now 😀

  • Peter Munday

    Member
    January 27, 2005 at 1:57 pm

    But it would seem that my link does not work 😮

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    January 27, 2005 at 2:03 pm

    Its got a ‘n’ at the start of the address, so it reads nhttp:// etc etc

    Cheers, Dewi

  • Vitor Brito

    Member
    January 27, 2005 at 5:57 pm

    Hi, Dayi

    1st of all u should be aware of what are your really needs for pantone booklet otherwise maybe you’ll buy a pantone swatch that doesn’t fit to your needs. That should be your 1st concern.

    http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/color/bb … ebooks.htm

    A bundle to start would be:
    http://www.pantone.com/products/product … Products=0

    but maybe u don’t wanna spend that much!

    it seems that 299 was on every pantone guide reseller head, and it’s amazing that u can find $299 USD for euro guides, as well as £299. Weird?
    just checked a few in diferent countries

    http://www.tecnimprensa.pt/survival%20kit.htm (Portuguese)

    the only that i found cheaper, if u or someone wanna go for the bundle it’s
    http://www.graphiland.fr/produc_t/produ … PSK&CS=Yes
    but it’s french!! u just need to check the costs for packaging

    Another advice is if u talk to a seller maybe they’ll try to sale u a color cue device, my experience says that those got a long way to go before they are trustable.

    Just throwing my 2 pence !!

    Cya

  • Steve Broughton

    Member
    January 27, 2005 at 8:13 pm

    I worked in printing for 15 years prior to doing this and i can assure you all this “buya new pantone booke each year” that they tell you to do is a load of b******s :lol1: when i first started work at 16 the one we had looked like it belonged to Caxton before us :lol1: printers are in general tight fisted buggers in 15 years I only ever remember seing one new one, if they are looked after they will last pretty well, a pantone book is a Guide Only not the Bible as colours are affected by different printing techniques and different substrates, you could print a colour onto 3 different types of paper and each colour would look different so don’t rely on them totally, when i first started mixing ink I used a digital scale, 15 years later I used the “dollop” measurement :lol1: and now can sometimes see colours and say “ah thats pantone XXX” sad isn’t it? 🙄

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    January 27, 2005 at 9:18 pm

    You’re right there Steve. We used to have a light cabinet that simulated different lighting conditions – daylight, fluorescent tubes etc. It was amazing how different the colours would look under the different lights.

    We too used a digital scale but had a geezer who would look at a colour and say “that needs a toothpick more black in it!”

  • J. Hulme

    Member
    January 27, 2005 at 11:12 pm
    quote big G:

    You’re right there Steve. We used to have a light cabinet that simulated different lighting conditions – daylight, fluorescent tubes etc. It was amazing how different the colours would look under the different lights.

    We too used a digital scale but had a geezer who would look at a colour and say “that needs a toothpick more black in it!”

    Too true, you’ll never, ever get identical colour match, far too many variables, from dependent on the amount thinners you are using through to the substrate (and colour of )you’re printing to not forgetting mesh count and blade profile, let the customer quote the numbers and get your ink supplier to make it, save your money, you certainly do not need a pantone reference guide, unless of course, it’s free, then it makes a good door-stop 😉

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