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  • When black isnt black and the Roland Library Prints rubbish

    Posted by Paul.Gadsdon on January 6, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    Hi

    Teething problems with VP300

    So I printed the colour chart from Versaworks and it has come out bad. The blacks are spidering, like too much ink has been laid down and then the head is just scrapped the black before its dry. The the pastel colours or shades of colour are very pixelated. The deep colours are fine through and very vibrant

    I am currently using generic vinyl 1 profile

    In addition to this if I attempt to use "sign and display" or "maximpact", the blacks also seem to spider

    So I made myself a logo and used the Roland colour System library’s black and that has really bad spidering as well. I changed this black to the CMYK black in the default swatch in Illustrator and the back was purple grey 😮

    I then changed the black to RGB Black from the swatch and it comes out black with no spidering!

    I have currently got convert to spot colour check box checked in the queue settings

    Any Ideas, Profile perhaps? I would have thought that using the Roland System Library colours would render properly.

    Cheers Last post this week I promise 😳

    Paul.Gadsdon replied 10 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Mario Ortiz

    Member
    January 7, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    maybe you have to use another profile, whats your vynil brand??

  • Paul.Gadsdon

    Member
    January 7, 2014 at 10:34 pm

    Yeah

    I use graphityp so I have to find the profile for the right vinyl

    Only the zip file for the profile on their website is corrupt

    Cheers

  • Gary Birch

    Member
    January 8, 2014 at 6:23 am

    Try Metamark md5 profile … We find it solves most problems

    Cheers

    Gary

  • Andrew Blackett

    Member
    January 8, 2014 at 7:32 am
    quote Gary Birch:

    Try Metamark md5 profile … We find it solves most problems

    Cheers

    Gary

    Would agree with Gary, used this on our older SP540 running compatible inks and it made a massive improvement in colour reproduction and general quality.

  • Paul.Gadsdon

    Member
    January 8, 2014 at 8:42 am

    Hi and cheers

    Should I use the normal profiles or the RIPC profiles or try both

    Cheers

  • Andrew Blackett

    Member
    January 8, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    RIPC will help minimise banding so that would be the better one to try (in my opinion anyway)

    Andy

  • Paul.Gadsdon

    Member
    January 8, 2014 at 1:23 pm

    Ok thanks Andy I will give it ago

    Paul

  • Paul.Gadsdon

    Member
    January 13, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    OK folks

    Still having a few issues and I am aware that I will need a new black head (see attached test print). However I still unsure about why the black is spidering when I use the Roland Colour System Library.

    I can only get reasonable quality prints when I print in high quality and use only the RGB black in Illustrator. If I do there is no spidering but the black isnt really jet black if you know what I mean.

    In fact all colours are slightly washed out. You can also see that the Roland colour system charts have serious banding and spidering on the blacks. Oddly the banding seen here is only on the shades, whereas the pure colours are very good.

    I have tried the metemark md5 profile as I was unable to find the Grapityp profile and that made no difference. The green and black AG sticker is the best I can get and this is using the generic vinyl 1 at high quality setting on PrePress US

    The street decals sticker shows the spidering when using the Roland Colour System black. This also happens when I use sign & Display and Max impact.

    My thoughts on this is if it were dues to the black head then it would happen on all settings and colour choices and it doesnt. If I use the stand black swatch from illustrator the blacks do not spider

    Will get to the bottom of this soon 🙂


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