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  • what vinyl is suitable for airbrushing a wrap?

    Posted by squareone on April 3, 2007 at 4:57 am

    I want to wrap my pathfinder and was wondering what the best wrap would be. The kicker is that all the graphic will be airbrushed so i do not think i need printable vinyl. I was thinking of using Oracal 751, but could i use it on the whole car?

    Thanks in advance
    -Rich

    Hugh Potter replied 16 years, 10 months ago 7 Members · 18 Replies
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  • Shane Drew

    Member
    April 3, 2007 at 5:57 am

    you going to wrap the car, then airbrush? Or airbrush the vinyl an then wrap it?

    751 is Ok, but Avery900 is probably softer and easier to stretch and apply for my money.

    Hope that is of some help

  • squareone

    Member
    April 3, 2007 at 6:17 am

    Thanks Shane

    Well this is going to be new to me! I have never tried something i could get done. I just want to used the best vinyl… I guess im looking for minimum bubbles, wrinkles, low tact, and available in colors

    I want to airbrush the vinyl and then lay it. I am using ronan paint with clear gloss. It works wonderful on banner and lettering but i have not tried it this way. I like to be different! I want each side of the vehicle to also appeal to a different market. Lets face it, a person can only be on one side of the vehicle at time.

    Thanks
    -Rich

  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    April 3, 2007 at 6:21 am

    Wont it be easier to apply it then airbrush it?

    If you stuff the application at least you wont ruin your air brushing?

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    April 3, 2007 at 7:30 am

    I would go the route of wrap first airbrush after also.

    that way you dont have to worry about distortion either.

    Peter

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    April 3, 2007 at 11:51 am
    quote squareone:

    Thanks Shane

    Well this is going to be new to me! I have never tried something i could get done. I just want to used the best vinyl… I guess im looking for minimum bubbles, wrinkles, low tact, and available in colors

    I want to airbrush the vinyl and then lay it. I am using ronan paint with clear gloss. It works wonderful on banner and lettering but i have not tried it this way. I like to be different! I want each side of the vehicle to also appeal to a different market. Lets face it, a person can only be on one side of the vehicle at time.

    Thanks
    -Rich

    Rich, I’d airbrush on the car after it is wrapped too. Be a much easier and quicker application. Especially if you have not wrapped before.

    That said, I’d use Oracal 3551gra. (not 3551) Easy to apply, has bubble free properties in the adhesive back, and is pretty easy to work with.

    Pick yourself up an Avery blue squeegee with the felt edge. (get a couple because the felt will wear out after a while) . Also get a mate to help you because it will be a quicker application too. I’m a one man band, and I speak from experience 😳

    I’d think twice about using the wife as the sole off-sider, because if you argue with your mate, he will eventually go home, but if you finish up arguing with the wife, well, I don’t think we need to go there :lol1:

    Also, check with your local Oracal rep, but they do a 870 series in colours too. Its the stuff they wrap the taxi’s with throughtout Germany. Brilliant stuff, and is designed purely as a wrap material. Come in 1500 wide material from what I read.

    They are thinking of bringing it into Oz. I’ve seen a sample, but not sure any has landed yet.

  • squareone

    Member
    April 3, 2007 at 8:30 pm
    quote :

    That said, I’d use Oracal 3551gra. (not 3551) Easy to apply, has bubble free properties in the adhesive back, and is pretty easy to work with.

    Oracal 3551gra comes only in white and I cant seem to find the avery900. Do you think avery900 is called something else here in the US?

    Thank
    -Rich

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    April 3, 2007 at 11:02 pm
    quote squareone:

    quote :

    That said, I’d use Oracal 3551gra. (not 3551) Easy to apply, has bubble free properties in the adhesive back, and is pretty easy to work with.

    Oracal 3551gra comes only in white and I cant seem to find the avery900. Do you think avery900 is called something else here in the US?

    Thank
    -Rich

    A9?

    I think Avery800 is called A8 over there. The numbers are different I suspect. Jill may see this post and let you know.

    Oracal 870 not available? That comes in colours too.

    Cheers

  • squareone

    Member
    April 3, 2007 at 11:17 pm

    I just talked to a new suppler this afternoon, the 870 Oracal wrapping cast is in color guide he gave me

    Thanks again,
    Shane

  • Jeff_Brown

    Member
    June 18, 2007 at 2:16 pm

    err…. Why not just paint the car?

  • Brian Hays

    Member
    June 18, 2007 at 3:15 pm
    quote jeff66:

    err…. Why not just paint the car?

    Because it’s a lot easier to remove a vehicle wrap than it is to respray a car when it’s time to sell, or time for a change. 😮

  • Jeff_Brown

    Member
    June 18, 2007 at 3:18 pm

    Wow! Is it just panels. Or the whole car?

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    June 18, 2007 at 3:34 pm

    jeff, have a nose at this vid, wish it was as easy as this guy makes it look !

  • Jeff_Brown

    Member
    June 18, 2007 at 3:35 pm

    What vid?!

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    June 18, 2007 at 3:40 pm

    http://www.oracal.com/global/CF_instruction_large.jsp

    this one !!! shows a wrap being done

    😳 😳 😳

  • Jeff_Brown

    Member
    June 18, 2007 at 3:59 pm

    Its very clever! But….

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    June 18, 2007 at 4:18 pm

    but ???????

  • Jeff_Brown

    Member
    June 18, 2007 at 4:21 pm

    Well…. To airbrush all that art onto plastic… Then throw it away!!???

    I mean, a good airbrush job on a full car ain’t cheap.

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    June 18, 2007 at 7:15 pm

    i guess it comes down to how long you plan to keep the work, the vehicle etc, if i had a decent digi printer, and could wrap well, i’d change the shop cars colour / graphics every month, just to keep it fresh, as it is, i change them as soon as i think i’ve got a better layout or design,

    if i could airbrush as well as i know you can, i’d wrap my vehicle and paint it, i don’t think i’d worry about throwing the work away, i guess you could sell the car as is, and hope the art added to the value, but i guess i’d look at it like a street artist might view his work "it’s there for the moment", enjoy it and move on.

    just a thought !!

    squareone….. did you finish this project ? i’d be interested to see it.

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