• What to charge!

    Posted by Colin Crabb on March 21, 2024 at 4:22 pm

    I’ve been asked if we could fit some signage.
    (I say signage, mainly vinyl to flat surface), this isn’t our normal gig at all, and to be honest unsure what people would charge.

    Travel 2 hours each way – 140 miles – 45p/pm = £63 fuel (travel time?)

    3 hours onsite with a 2 man crew
    All materials supplied.
    Ballpark figures?

    And yes…
    I know what I would charge if it was totally my job etc, the subby part/materials supplied are new, it could be a cool job to do as it involves luxury cruise liners, so don’t want to go under price…

    Colin Crabb replied 6 days, 4 hours ago 5 Members · 6 Replies
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  • David Hammond

    Member
    March 21, 2024 at 9:15 pm

    A team of two good subbies, with van scaffold all the gear I get charged ~£450 more geared up for heavy installs

    There’s a one man installer who is great at vinyl work, and can do some two man vinyl install on his own with no issues, and he’s wanting ~ £275

    Most of my work is local, but I know they do charge mileage, and the travel time can come off their day (8 or 10hr day)

  • RobertLambie

    Administrator
    March 23, 2024 at 3:35 am

    The part that becomes difficult for pricing an installation service, is how we perceive the value of the installer.
    I.e. Is he Joey Bloggs the Plumber or Thomas Smith the Corgi-certified Gasman?

    it could be a cool job to do as it involves luxury cruise liners, so don’t want to go under price.

    In 2019 I won a small contract for a UKSG-accredited vinyl installer for a global cruise liner company.
    The ship left from Italy, and they were required to stay on the ship for a week or two.
    When the job was finished, they would fly home from whatever country it had arrived at, at the time.

    * All food and sleeping accommodations were covered by the cruise liner company.
    * Flights, taxis etc covered by the cruise company.
    * One day travel to the port in Italy = £100 per day
    * 8-hour shift = £400 per day
    * One-day travel home, once the project is complete =£100 per day
    e.g.
    If the Project only lasted 7 days, the total price the UKSG fitter would earn would be £2200

    This is just the bare-bones pricing of the project and the fee I negotiated for the installer. (I took zero money for my part) so that is something else to factor into your price.
    There were other very attractive parts to this job for the installer like they got to enjoy the cruise, sunbathing and all the facilities while there because the installation part was done during the night as people slept on the ship.

    I am just giving you these details as it sounds like you may be doing a similar type of thing, albeit, the ships obviously ported within driving distance.

    In your case, I would probably just lump everything together and charge by the day.
    The fee you request is obviously up to you. but something like…

    Day Rate: £999+vat
    Price includes:
    * Two-Man Installation Team
    * Travel time and Fuel
    * Inc. some Terms and Conditions

    They will require you to provide “RAMS”
    Risk Assessment and Method Statement document

  • Jeff

    Member
    March 25, 2024 at 11:38 am

    now why cant i land these types of jobs once or twice a year? 😎

    • Mark Johnston

      Member
      March 25, 2024 at 11:56 pm

      same here jeff. imagine having this type of work all year long. 🚢⛴🏝

      In 2019 I won a small contract for a UKSG-accredited vinyl installer for a global cruise liner company.

      so can you put my name down for the next job like this rob? 🤣

  • Colin Crabb

    Member
    March 25, 2024 at 5:28 pm

    Cheers both, we was about right with our pricing, is defo one of those we don’t want to go in to lean.

    • Colin Crabb

      Member
      April 21, 2024 at 8:24 am

      And pricing was correct, we’ve had ‘adventures’ on 3 ships so far, with another next week booked in.

      Not a job for the faint hearted, you need carry everything aboard in one go (no returning to vehicle), fun security checks, time limits, going into these jobs semi-blind (no site surveys, just a designers mock up, that, lets say isn’t always correct sizes..) and omg.. is it hot on those boats when you gotta work at speed!

      But it’s definitely a fun job.

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