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what is the best way to remove old vinyl?
HI WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO REMOVE OLD VINYL.
IS THERE A SPRAY?
HOPE YOU CAN HELP ?
THANKS FOR LOOKING KEVIN -
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Depends on what type of vinyl you are trying to remove, heat works quite well and so does a steam wallpaper stripper, you can buy plastic tools from people like Jag Sign Supplies that aid you in starting to lift the edge of the vinyl if you have no finger nails (like me :lol1: ) or you are worried you will chip your nail polish!!!
There are a couple of chemicals on the market to aid vinyl removal, 3m do a spray to halp remove vinyl and one to help remove glue as well but they are expensive as most 3m products are. I believe Grafityp also do one and there is a link to their website on the homepage.
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Hi Kevin
Stop SHOUTING your giving me a headache!! 😀 😀Peter
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quote KEVIN FRYER:HI WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO REMOVE OLD VINYL.
IS THERE A SPRAY?
HOPE YOU CAN HELP ?
THANKS FOR LOOKING KEVINGet someone else to do it!
No only joking, if i have originally fitted the vinyl I am happy to remove it, but at a cost, I wll give the customer an estimate in terms of time @ an hourly rate, but most opt to get a lad to do it a far cheaper rates.
Like has been said warm air or steamer works well, but unless the vynil is really old and brittle, the chemicals are more hinderance than help.
You can use nitromores it works well … NO DONT! good stuff for stubborn vinyl on GLASS though
Peter
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I use a hot air gun on a low setting, and to get old adhesive off a bottle of "right off" £8 from dorotape, citrus based spray leave it on 2 minutes and the vinyl just wipes off with no effort.
for older brittle vinyl on vans I use a chainsaw and then metal filler.
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Steve you’d have no problems with residue glue with your last method 😀
Lynn
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No I just cut the whole panel out, tape a bit of cardboard in there and a bit of metal filler on the edges, to make it look good.
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great thanks every body.got a few ideas to try out.
think i leave the one about the chain saw lol -
Kevin at this time of the year your best method is just peeling it off, if you use heat you are more likely to leave glue behind, same with the melt sort of products, glue is almost as bad as vinyl to get rid of, you can use glue and tar remover, then depending who it is for give it a "T" cut won’t get rid of all the ghosting but will look better.
Lynn
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quote KEVIN FRYER:HI WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO REMOVE OLD VINYL.
IS THERE A SPRAY?
HOPE YOU CAN HELP ?
THANKS FOR LOOKING KEVINDepends what you are removing it from and whatever the tools recommended here you’ll find the hairdryer is not only the cheapest but the best.
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quote derek longhaven:quote KEVIN FRYER:HI WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO REMOVE OLD VINYL.
IS THERE A SPRAY?
HOPE YOU CAN HELP ?
THANKS FOR LOOKING KEVINDepends what you are removing it from and whatever the tools recommended here you’ll find the hairdryer is not only the cheapest but the best.
Hair dryers are for drying hair, buy yourself a professional, adjustable hot air gun, about 25 quid will get you a dewalt, including several nozzles.
Peter
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quote Peter Normington:quote derek longhaven:quote KEVIN FRYER:HI WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO REMOVE OLD VINYL.
IS THERE A SPRAY?
HOPE YOU CAN HELP ?
THANKS FOR LOOKING KEVINDepends what you are removing it from and whatever the tools recommended here you’ll find the hairdryer is not only the cheapest but the best.
Hair dryers are for drying hair, buy yourself a professional, adjustable hot air gun, about 25 quid will get you a dewalt, including several nozzles.
Peter
Well only an idiot would waste £25 when a £3.50 hairdyer does the same job. There again evidently you don’t own a hairdryer
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have to agree with Peter there, got the de walt one for £30 its brilliant.
and also a hair dryer isnt going to wrap a van if you ever want to go that route. -
sorry Derek have to disagree you can get excellent heat guns quite cheaply with variable temperatures, these of course can be used in vinyl application as well, so an investment at the end of the day. ad by the way where can you buy a hair drier for £3.50 🙄
Lynn
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quote Steve Underhill:have to agree with Peter there, got the de walt one for £30 its brilliant.
and also a hair dryer isnt going to wrap a van if you ever want to go that route.Its to remove vinyl not wrap a van.
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quote Lynn:sorry Derek have to disagree you can get excellent heat guns quite cheaply with variable temperatures, these of course can be used in vinyl application as well, so an investment at the end of the day.
Lynn
Both the normingtons disagree with everything I say, I don’t care, because you’re wrong.
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may as well have the right tool for the job was all I was saying.
but I can assure you a hairdryer isn’t the "best" maybe cheapest tho Ill give you that. -
quote derek longhaven:quote Peter Normington:quote derek longhaven:quote KEVIN FRYER:HI WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO REMOVE OLD VINYL.
IS THERE A SPRAY?
HOPE YOU CAN HELP ?
THANKS FOR LOOKING KEVINDepends what you are removing it from and whatever the tools recommended here you’ll find the hairdryer is not only the cheapest but the best.
Hair dryers are for drying hair, buy yourself a professional, adjustable hot air gun, about 25 quid will get you a dewalt, including several nozzles.
Peter
Well only an idiot would waste £25 when a £3.50 hairdyer does the same job. There again evidently you don’t own a hairdryer
Only an idiot would waste £3.50 when you could just wait for a warm day 😀
Peter
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quote Steve Underhill:may as well have the right tool for the job was all I was saying.
but I can assure you a hairdryer isn’t the “best” maybe cheapest tho Ill give you that.Same argument with using Coreldraw and not using Flexisign / signlab etc then?
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Im not arguing,
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quote Steve Underhill:Im not arguing,
arguing on the internet is as pointless as booing at the special Olympics.No the right tools for the job comment, the argument is exactly the same, why buy a heat-gun when your hairdryer will achieve exactly the same result, why buy signlab or flexi when corel will ‘get you by’ ?
It’s the way you perceive your end result and the easiest way to achieve your aim. Hell i’ve seen fantastic results with something as accessible as paint and a brush for gods sake!
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i take it every body has had a bad day then 😉
i love my corel, heat gun and steamer.
chris
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I do use corel draw,
Signlab or flexi just make it quicker easier and less infuriating for sign work sometimes I guess, but I also do a lot of vector drawing, so Im fine with it.
point taken on the hairdryer, whatever works for you.No bad day here Chris, just hard to express a tone of voice on a forum, Im always happy.
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Hey Derek…………you’re a funny guy 😀
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derek please read the board rules 😉
nik
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I Agree with Chris,
Derek, take a chill pill you seem a little hot under the collar, turn that hair dryer down a bit.
So In Summary……
Heat guns and Hair dryers.
Chemicals but test a small area first.
Steamers 🙂 (i think every agrees on that note)Ahhhh, Now we’ve got that covered…..
And I’m the one who’s been to the pub and drank Stella all night 🙂Cheers
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I use a hairdryer. It is probably a bit slower than a heat gun, but the first time I picked up a heat gun by the metal nozzle I left a fair bit of skin on it and decided I didn’t like it. Also, there is no chance of causing any damage to paintwork with a hairdryer. The trick is to warm the panel up, not just the vinyl.
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quote :The trick is to warm the panel up, not just the vinyl.
the best bit of advice all night thats why i like my steamer.
chris
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A useful tip I have discovered after years of experimentation..
To minimise glue left behind on the panel – try to get the panel hotter than the vinyl (though the vinyl also needs to be heated to stop it being brittle) but if you can get the panel hot the glue will release from the panel and come off with the vinyl (rather than be left behind after the viny is pulled off). As Lynn said earlier – you can spend more time removing the glue than the vinyl – so if you can get a "clean" panel when you remove the vinyl you will save time.
I’ve always found a walllpaper stripper to be best – this ensures the panel as well as the vinyl gets nice and hot and minimises glue residue.
I should know – I have spent a lifetime in research and development to produce a quick and easy method of removing vinyls. Once my "top secret" invention is perfected and brought to the market – I reckon I will retire a millionaire 😎
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Hey Andy,
The way your holding that pint glass looks like your trying to cool your fingertips down, Always a good excuse for a pint. 😀
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quote derek longhaven:quote KEVIN FRYER:HI WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO REMOVE OLD VINYL.
IS THERE A SPRAY?
HOPE YOU CAN HELP ?
THANKS FOR LOOKING KEVINDepends what you are removing it from and whatever the tools recommended here you’ll find the hairdryer is not only the cheapest but the best.
sorry, but that is simply wrong! 🙄
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I’m annoyed I’ve been busy today and missed all this! For what it’s worth, I use a hair dryer, not cause it’s best but because there is no risk of damage to anything or burning myself. I have a heat gun and use it when it is needed. As said before the steamer is the way forward (tools for the job – steamer for removing wallpaper? no, it’s good at vinyl too)
quote :Im not arguing,
arguing on the internet is as pointless as booing at the special Olympics.brilliant… I’m using that one!
Just to drag out my post and cause I’m on my lunch and feeling pretty good today, as not everyone is it seems, I’ll blether on for a sec. I post on another forum (not sign related) and there is loads of bitching and sniping on it. Most of the time it’s because people misread others posts, but at the same time if the original poster took more time to check that they didn’t come across as rude and bitchy it could all be avoided. To be honest I’d stop using the other one but it’s the best on it’s topic and fortunately UKSB is nothing like that so this was all quite pointless!
Sorry if you just wasted your time reading that!
G
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Just wanted to add to this thread before i edit it later tonight…
Mr derek longhaven does NOT exist! this is a bogus account created by a certain company by the name of outline signs and graphics, yet again!
apologies for the inconvenience caused by this… but i was merely giving them enough rope to hang them self. 😀
should this person persist to cause problems on uksb i will submit their "full details" to the legitimate manchester sign company that they have given details of and claim to be from in this recent show of childish behavior.
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🙄 ………………. again (!)
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Well I never, what a surprise. 🙄
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Oh, I just wanted to get the 200000th article.
There, that’s it. 🙂
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quote Andy Gorman:Oh, I just wanted to get the 200000th article.
There, that’s it. 🙂
:lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:
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I just did 2 large removal jobbies of vinyl. The scrapers from JAG can recommend them very good for getting a start. Didn’t use any heat at all just peeled it slowly. Had some glue residue on the colder bits where it snapped away Meths took care of that.
The biggest problem was getting the traffic film off the dibond.
A weak solution of bleach did the best and a good clean after to remove residue.Always somebody spits the dummy out cause they think their opinion is the best.
By the way Derek what type of car do you drive? Old LADA perhaps?Goop
OOOppppsss never read all the threads above
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I’ve got a question 😮
I find my hairdryer is over the top when drying my hair in the morning. I was thinking of buying a hot air gun instead – something that can give me a range of "little or no heat" to "burn your brains out yabast!!".
My Rowenta hairdryer only has two settings ("hot" and "Ooyabast") so I was hoping for a hot air gun with a much greater range of heat settings with much finer incremental settings than the old Rowenta.
Any suggestions 😮
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Phill, put yer ‘ead in the oven. Mine has 9 heat settings, and a grill.
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I tried that Andy… but the gas won’t stay on if the pilot light hasn’t ignited the gas and allowed thermal expansion of the copper tubing to permit a free flow of gas into the oven chamber.
When I tried a simple noose around my neck the rope broke when I kicked away the stool 😕
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