what is everyone else doing with chapter 8 regulations?

[Peter Normington]

I dont think you can use any other colour on the back other than red, the second colour should be hi vis yellow (flourescent) but not reflective.
so you shouldnt need 20m of each colour

This site gives details off chapter 8 requirements, and also supplies the material,

http://www.reflectivesuk.com/index1.htm

(click on the products window at the bottom, its a bit hard to find at first)

But shop around for the best price

Peter

[Karl Williams]

Peter. Every motorway maintenance vehicle…..railway maintenance vehicle and recovery vehicle I have ever done has had red and yellow reflective on the back. I do one nearly every week and there has never been any mention of the fluorescent vinyl being used.

[Simon.James]

Thanks Peter

if Relectives Uk have done there homework correctly, there guidelines are very clear to follow, it says a non reflective material so I could print the chevrons out on the mimaki at a 60 degree angle.

the red warm red – 100mag 100 yellow

but does anyone know the colour split for ral 335 lemon it looks like a dirty yellow i would take a guess at 100 yellow and 10 – 15 magenta?

does anyone know for sure?

Peter i was hoping to meet you for a coffee and sign uk, but due to just moving into a factory unit, I am skint and i need to keep on trucking to pay off the overdraft, but if you are ever in Wales pop in for a coffee or something stronger!

cheers

Simon

[Peter Normington]

Just going on what I have read Karl, I have also fitted yellow reflective and red to the rear, many times, but looks like its not correct anymore, Just pointing out that the cost may be less if using hi vis yellow,

Someone will no doubt post the definitive answer.

Peter

Peter

[Graeme Harrold]

Im looking…….found tons of uninteresting cr@p, but here is a police link…………. http://theheap.net/files/2-98-specification-for-livery.pdf

[Simon.James]

Thats the £34 a metre stuff, no wonder the police cant clear up the crime rates they are spending all there budget on chevrons for there vans!

[Chris Wool]

well i have to price one up and been following this and trying to read chapter 8 etc.
can anybody spell it out for me please.
can i print red on to yellow day glow or does the red have to be reflective ?

chris

[Richard]

The relevant bit of Chapter 8 is on page 62 here,

quote :

c) chevron markings comprising alternate strips of fluorescent orange-red retroreflective material
and fluorescent yellow non-retroreflective material, of not less than 150mm width each, inclined
at 45-60° to the horizontal and pointing upwards, or

d) a solid block of fluorescent orange-red retroreflective material.

[Karl Williams]

Don’t the plods use 3m diamond vinyl or honeycomb?

[Lynn Normington]

Karl I expect what the police use makes no matter it’s what they say we can use 😀

Lynn

[Karl Williams]

Yes Lynn but the price of £34 per meter only rings true for 3m diamond and honeycomb.

[Peter Normington]

quote Karl Williams:

Don’t the plods use 3m diamond vinyl or honeycomb?

Karl, the police use diamond grade, as all the emergency services do,
next time you see a police car, or an ambulance though, take a closer look, the yellow/flourescent is not diamond grade, if it is the second colour is not, if you understand what I mean.

Peter

[Andy Gorman]

Most forces use diamond grade, some use Avery EV and some use Nikkalite. They are all the same sort of thing. West Midlands police were using engineering grade on their patrol cars when I last did one.

As for the ‘regulations’, every force interprets them their own way. I’ve made literally thousands of battenberg and other kits for the emergency services and they all had their own unique way of doing it.

[Graeme Harrold]

Have a look back at this one………

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[Simon.James]

We done the job yesterday on the 4 lorries[/b], after all your sound advice (thanks) and hours of research, I am came to to the conclusion I should have used Ral Lemon335 non reflective £7 a metre And class one RED reflective @ £34.95 a metre. When I told the customer they were looking at a bill of around £2100 for materials and labour, they decided I could print out 50ft of chevrons on my JV3 and fit for £695.

The Job Would have been a nightmare, but we decided to have a go at wrapping it with a heat gun, the end jobbie what a wonderful result, we managed to wrap around every nook and cranny, we maanaged to cover every rivit and bolt and the final result looked as if we had painted it. the customer was over the moon with. I probably used the totally wrong stuff MD3 with an over laminate????????

Question one[/b]
I now have the bug to go on a vehicle wrapping course, but I only have a mimaki jv3 760mm will my machine be big enough for the job as I dont plan on changing for a year or to.

Question two

I am a bit of a worrier, is Vehicle wrapping 100% foolproof, i have heared you can get cracking and peeling months later and what happens to the vehicles paint work when the customers wants to remove it say 4 – 5 years later.

Question 3 [/b]

99 percent of my work is industrial signage and we only signwrite about 6 vans a year due t the lack of space in our small unit. if I get into wrapping it will need to be done outside in my yard, will it be possible to do it under some sort of cover like large garden gazabbo say about 20 foot long by 10 ft high, does anyone elso do vehicle wraps outside or am i asking for problems?

Cheers

Simon

[Russell Spencer]

quote Peter Normington:

quote Karl Williams:

Don’t the plods use 3m diamond vinyl or honeycomb?

Karl, the police use diamond grade, as all the emergency services do,
next time you see a police car, or an ambulance though, take a closer look, the yellow/flourescent is not diamond grade, if it is the second colour is not, if you understand what I mean.

Peter

I believe that there is now a flourescent yellow class 1 (diamond) grade vinyl. I saw an ambulance the other day and had a closer look. So effectively the whole vehicle was reflective.

[Craig Brown]

quote signsurfer:

quote Peter Normington:

quote Karl Williams:

Don’t the plods use 3m diamond vinyl or honeycomb?

Karl, the police use diamond grade, as all the emergency services do,
next time you see a police car, or an ambulance though, take a closer look, the yellow/flourescent is not diamond grade, if it is the second colour is not, if you understand what I mean.

Peter

I believe that there is now a flourescent yellow class 1 (diamond) grade vinyl. I saw an ambulance the other day and had a closer look. So effectively the whole vehicle was reflective.

Wm Smith have sold the 3M Florescent Yellow for a long while now, details here
3M Florescent