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  • What do you think of my van layout?

    Posted by Ade Brown on August 1, 2007 at 10:46 pm

    Hi all

    done thos design for my vito van

    think i need to alter the vinyl print embroidery line – but other than that i’m fairly happy

    i’ve used same logo thats on my bussiness cards and letterheads etc..

    so what you think


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    Martin Pearson replied 16 years, 9 months ago 11 Members · 28 Replies
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  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    August 1, 2007 at 10:49 pm

    can you post as a jpeg to save use downloading it?
    we’re a lazy bunch 😀

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    August 1, 2007 at 10:51 pm

    can you pop a jpeg up please. more people will take a look

    chris

    hello
    hello
    hello

  • Ade Brown

    Member
    August 1, 2007 at 10:54 pm

    sorry

    here we go!!!


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  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    August 1, 2007 at 11:00 pm

    I’d put less on it ……….. Not many people read as much info on a passing vehicle. I’d cut back and concentrate more on your name and ‘signs’.

    If a van has a load of info it’s more difficult to decipher who they are and therefore too difficult to remember their name which is the main point. no one remembers phone numbers by quickly reading a passing vehicle but the name and a short description of what you do does.

  • Ade Brown

    Member
    August 1, 2007 at 11:03 pm

    I originally did a design with just name and signs graphics etc – I showed it to a few local companies and friends and they all said what sort of signs etc…

    now i’ve put the bullets on they all say it tells us more!!!

    now i am stumpted!!!!

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    August 1, 2007 at 11:07 pm

    But you have
    VINYL SIGNS EMBROIDERY
    on it ………………. that says it all to me ……… ?
    Less is more ………… or maybe that’s just me! 😉 😀

  • Ade Brown

    Member
    August 1, 2007 at 11:10 pm

    im going to use whites and silvers

    oh and i think a different blue on the Signs and Graphics!!

    I know everyone has their own opinion’s without them boards would not exsist!!

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    August 1, 2007 at 11:18 pm
    quote a brown:

    I know everyone has their own opinion’s without them boards would not exsist!!

    correct!!!!!!!! It would be a boring place otherwise wouldn’t it! 😀 😀 😀 😀

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    August 1, 2007 at 11:21 pm

    sorry too much for me to.

    i think that you could be more creative with the use of fonts logo quite nice rest of the text old hat.

    chris

  • Ade Brown

    Member
    August 1, 2007 at 11:27 pm

    I agree with you there

    Cannot decide what to go with as i wanted it plain as there does seem alot on it!!

  • Jamie Wood

    Member
    August 2, 2007 at 6:40 am

    You’ve put Vehciles instead of Vehicles on the sides. I also think it looks
    a little cluttered.

    Cheers,
    Jamie.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    August 2, 2007 at 7:46 am

    It’s far too cluttered I’m afraid. I would take Marcellas advice if you want to create a good impression. I would simplify it a lot and use the available space to get the important messages across.

    Maybe something like this:-


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  • Gareth.Lewis

    Member
    August 2, 2007 at 8:29 am

    Unless instructed otherwise by the customer, I nearly always try and get the business type at least two thirds the size of the business name (if the name doesn’t make it obvious of course). I am forever seeing vans with DAVE JONES (for example) in huge letters, then underneath in thin script ‘Plumbing & Heating Engineers’. I often imagine people going ‘look there goes Dave Jones, I wonder what he does for a living’

    Gareth

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    August 2, 2007 at 8:31 am
    quote Gareth Lewis:

    I often imagine people going ‘look there goes Dave Jones, I wonder what he does for a living’

    Gareth

    :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

  • Ade Brown

    Member
    August 2, 2007 at 8:58 am

    Thanks all for the time!!

    Have to laugh the design Phil’s come up with is more or less carbon copy of my 1st one!!

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    August 2, 2007 at 10:39 am

    First of all, as Sister Mary Signhag, I am going to slap your knuckles with my ruler for using all-caps script on PROMO.

    Secondly…never shop your design around to friends and family as you will end up with a laundry list of stuff to add to it. Opinions are like arseholes, and everybody has one.

    (including me and I probably sound like a jerk to you)

    Phill is right, and if your first design was like his, go back to it. Less is more. Nobody is going to take the time to read all that. And you will get stuck putting everything but the kitchen sink on every van you do for every customer if you have it on your own.

    Love….Jill

  • Ade Brown

    Member
    August 2, 2007 at 10:52 am

    There’s no room to slap me!! I’m sore from everyone else – lol 😀

    The problem i have is I’m not just doing "Signs" and there are quite a few idiot’s out there that don’t understand "Corporate wear"

    There sure pilling in!!

    Ade

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    August 2, 2007 at 11:01 am
    quote Jillbeans:

    Opinions are like arseholes, and everybody has one.

    Love….Jill

    :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    August 2, 2007 at 11:02 am
    quote a brown:

    The problem i have is I’m not just doing “Signs” and there are quite a few idiot’s out there that don’t understand “Corporate wear”

    Ade

    If they don’t know what corporate wear is then they’re not bright enough to want any in the first place!!!!!

  • George Elsmore

    Member
    August 2, 2007 at 11:03 am

    and a lot of people talk out of them :lol1:

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    August 2, 2007 at 11:23 am

    …and they all stink!
    :lol1:

    And if they don’t know what "corporate wear" is, they sure as heck won’t know what "signage" is.

    Love….Jill

  • Ade Brown

    Member
    August 2, 2007 at 11:24 am

    missed an order of a local manufacturing company the other week – the guys and old friend and he just got 1000 t – shirts done paid way over the odds for s**t quality and when i asked why didnt you ask me he said he didnt know i did that also!!

    All his company signs are done by me and he’s passed a bit of sign work my way too!!

    He has my cards in his wallet and reception also some a5 flyers with corporate wear and the idot didnt know!!

    can you see what i’m faced with!!!

  • Gareth.Lewis

    Member
    August 2, 2007 at 11:39 am

    I’m was amazed that one of my repeat order sign board customers had gone elsewhere for their fleet vehicle signs, not realising it was all the same stuff! Aaaaaaargh!

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    August 2, 2007 at 11:45 am

    I get it too.
    "You mean you make banners?"
    D’Oh!

    The worst is this guy who is a world traveler but too cheap to buy souvenirs. (a millionaire apparently) He’d swipe little butter plates from various hotels and bring them back to me to paint "Belgium" or "Vienna" on them for $10 a pop.

    Found out he’d just had a fleet of trucks lettered (shoddily) by another sign company.
    "Oh I didn’t know you did that!"

    While I agree that it is important to advertise what you do, if you put too much copy on your vehicle nobody will take the time to read it.
    Love….Jill

  • Dennis Van Der Lingen

    Member
    August 5, 2007 at 11:36 am

    maybe you’ve taken the wrong approach if your customers don’t know what you do.

    the design of the van is so that you do all that stuff, but what’s not on it you don’t do. isn’t it better to find some global words that says a bunch of stuff so that when you say less you say it all (i know my English needs improvement) hope you understand what I’m trying to say,

    also i noticed that you sell prints yet you have none on your van,
    (because of the nature of our company if i saw your van like that i would immediately call you to ask if i could supply your prints)

    i can also understand the customer who thinks that corporate- or promo wear is something different than signs thus without a second thought looking around without thinking of you

    i hope any of this makes any sense?

  • Lorraine Clinch

    Member
    August 6, 2007 at 11:12 am

    Dennis is right, if you had a digi print, maybe a montage of various works you have done, that will say more than a huge list that no-one will read, unless they are stuck behind you.

    I call it ‘personalised clothing’ – this seems to work for me 😕

  • Ade Brown

    Member
    August 6, 2007 at 11:23 am

    Hi

    had considered the digi print route will take comments on board

    Thanks all!!

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    August 6, 2007 at 2:18 pm

    I have to agree with most of the comments made so far, people don’t generally read lists as they don’t have the time. they end up missing the important info like who you are and how to contact you. Plus as Jill has said every customer you do any work for will feel they need a big long list of what they do on the side of their van.
    The other problem with having a big list is that if people don’t see what they want they will just assume you don’t do it as it isn’t listed. I bet you do or can do a lot of other work you haven’t listed.
    The back of business cards, fliers, brochures etc are the best place to put lists, somewhere where people have the time to sit and look at them. plus you should be telling existing customers and friends exactly what sort of work you can do and how they can help you to get it.

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