what can I do with my used versacamm cartridges?

[Graeme Speirs]

ive got a mountain of them here myself so will be keen to see some solutions ! Otherwise its the local tip in a bin bag…wrong I know but if theres no other option!

cheers
graeme

[Gavin MacMillan]

Oh well, just off the phone to Roland and they say to fling em’ in the bin! (as long as there in no ink left in them)

They are looking into alternatives, either them disposing of them or re-using but as yet have no system in place.

I think I’ll hang start a wee collection and see what they say in 6months. There must be a mountain of these getting thrown out!

I only got sales on the phone but I think I’ll write to make my point and then hopefully they will keep me posted – will post any new finding up here. If any one else feels like writing then maybe some extra pressure might help them find a solution.

Cheers

Gavin

[Phill Fenton]

I don’t think the planet will suffer too much if I just put mine in the bin.

There’s a good program on telly tonight called the truth about global warming. Apparently it’s not all down to us destroying the planet – the sun’s just getting hotter 😛

[Graeme Speirs]

another option I read about is to break them open and tip the remaining ink in the river, it really looks lovely an nice pink river.

hope this helps

🙂

[Jamie Wood]

I spoke to someone a couple of weeks ago, who will be commencing a
recycling programme in a couple of months. I’ll post the details when I’m
in work tomorrow. They will take carts from most well known printers, and
pay between £1 and £2.50 per cart if I remember rightly. I think they’ll
collect every few months, so you’ll have to store them until collection.

Cheers,
Jamie.

[Alex Wilson]

Hi All

Very funny comment about the pink river visions of camp fish swimming about :lol1:

I know nobody is silly enough to start opening these (I hope) but if you look at the yellow cartridge (not any other colour for some reason) it has a Cancer warning on it. I have been told it is to do with the internal components so please don’t mess about with them.

Best wishes
Alex

[Dorian Marks]

we have a charity (www.jackandjill.ie) who gives us a box which we fill with empty cartridges, laser consumables, old mobile phones etc. when it is full we give them a call and they collect.

would like to ask other sign makers based in Ireland to get involved with them.

[Gavin MacMillan]

The global warming debate it one best avoided me thinks, but the Al Gore lecture is available on DVD and well worth a watch.

Regardless of global warming, is there really any excuse for continually throwing out things that are of use? We give most of our scrap vinyl to local schools and people who run art groups, then give them old banner material and sometimes there efforts get fitted in the high street (with much laughter and ‘we didn’t make em’ comments!)

Would definitely be good if these could be uplifted, or more likely due to where we are we could post them.

Keep me informed of anything and I’ll do the same.

Cheers

[Phill Fenton]

quote Gavin MacMillan:

The global warming debate it one best avoided me thinks, but the Al Gore lecture is available on DVD and well worth a watch.

Why?

[Jamie Wood]

Here are the details for the cartridge recycling people. They do take
versacamm ones, although they are not on the list. It may be worth contacting them for your particular printer.

Cheers,
Jamie

Waste Not International 
Unit 1 
Bellhanger Business Park
Bentworth 
Alton
Hampshire
GU34 5QZ
Tel: 0845 202 4142 
Fax:01420 563103

[Gavin MacMillan]

quote :

Gavin MacMillan wrote:
The global warming debate it one best avoided me thinks, but the Al Gore lecture is available on DVD and well worth a watch.

Why?

The DVD I found really interesting and thought provoking. Certainly loads of things on there that were news to me! The debate about global warming I would say is best avoided (by me anyway) as from whatever side your coming from it’ll seem like banging your head against a wall trying to influence any other persons point of view.

Gavin

[Phill Fenton]

I think the key point about global warming is what is causing it. I think everyone agrees it is happening – but the debate is all about "is it man made or a natural occurrence?"

I believe it to be one of the normal cycles of nature. Not caused by man

[Gavin MacMillan]

Like I say, head and brick wall!

No offense meant by that at all, I was half and half, watch the lecture if you get a chance.

The most interesting part is they show the trends on a graph of figures from thousands of years taken from core samples taken in ice. They show this right up to the present day and I would say there are few people around who would argue the point after seeing this.

If it was a swings and roundabout situation, which like I say, I part believed before hand, it would be hard to explain how the increases coincide so precisely with industrialisation.

Anyhoo, this is my perspective on it all. Whatever side of the fence your on the lecture is a good watch (I’m not on commission by the way!)

[Stephen Morriss]

quote Phill:

I think the key point about global warming is what is causing it. I think everyone agrees it is happening – but the debate is all about “is it man made or a natural occurrence?”

I believe it to be one of the normal cycles of nature. Not caused by man

Got to agree with you Phill.
All the crap that governments come out is just political hype, making the right noises to shut people up.

But it’s no excuse to just keep throwing stuff in the ground, all the extra packaging that stuff is in is a real waste, try buying to ingredients for a sandwich at the supermarket, you end up with the bin full and a few sandwiches.

Was on holiday a few weeks ago and my friend who lives in France told us to be careful about recycling as they were really serious about it, so we separated all the paper plastic metal etc got the the recycling centre and all there was was 3 bins. Glass, Stuff with recycle logo on and Other.
We do better than that in the middle of no-were in Cumbria!

[Phill Fenton]

quote Gavin MacMillan:

The most interesting part is they show the trends on a graph of figures from thousands of years taken from core samples taken in ice. They show this right up to the present day and I would say there are few people around who would argue the point after seeing this.

Yes I’ve seen this – and the key point raised is that when the world is warmer there is more CO2 in the atmosphere. When the world is colder there is less. But it’s the changes in temperature that cause the changes in the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere (not the other way around). Most of the CO2 in the atmosphere is controlled by the worlds vast oceans – the warmer the seas the more CO2 that is released and vice versa.

[Gavin MacMillan]

Aye, this is kind of the problem. Even top scientists can’t agree… or worse they can’t even decide whether they do all agree and only a few don’t or whether those that agree only do because it’s fashionable or those that don’t only don’t because there working for oil industry / bush / anyone else with a vested interest. This was pretty much the reason behind my earlier post

quote :

The global warming debate it one best avoided me thinks

But as posted by Stephen and myself, whatever the truth there is no excuse for the needless waste we all generate and whatever small things can be done should be done. The good thing is a lot of what can be done saves money at the same time and that’s always a bonus!

Thanks Jamie for the contact info, I’ll be in touch with them shortly.

Gavin

[Gavin MacMillan]

Cheers Jamie, they will take them and your right, they even pay me for the privilege, what a result!

Gavin

[Jamie Wood]

Excellent. I think it would be good if everyone thought about doing this.

Cheers,
Jamie.

[William Cleaner]

I know a company in manchester who pick up old cartridges and i think they pay for them to. I will find the details and mail them to you.

[Carl Maguire]

I would also like to know details of where i can send my empty versacamm cartridges for recycling as i currently throw them in the bin so if there is a company can u post details please
thanks

[Gavin MacMillan]

Jamie posted the details above, give those guys a call.

G

[Deleted User]

When your cartridge runs out, simply clip it open, squeeze the remaining ink to the end of the cart, then close and insert the cartridges back into the machine and you can continue printing another couple of metres before the ink totally finishes and its time to throw away the cart.

this advice was given by a roland engineer and i myself have been doing this for the last few month.

just thought this info might have been some use to someone.

[Martin Oxenham]

Won’t this allow air into the system.

[Alex Tucker]

Anyone know someone in Ireland? We must have close on 400 empty EcoMax cartridges here now. There was some talk of Roland coming up with a solution and a few vendors were going to sort out, then there was talk about one company paying €1.50 for each one but nothing came of this.

Hi Dorian, we give to J&J but they don’t take the Roland cartridges, only normal office printer cartridges, as far as I know.

[Martin Oxenham]

The whole Global Warming-recycling-Green issue is never going away now. Its just become too big. Personally I don’t buy it and think that big ball of fire in the sky with its storms is to blame. But if it was proved either way its just to big now with massive company’s being built on it. The worlds governments are involved and its not going away. Imagine the green problems that have built up because of the Global warming issue, Leaflets, Brochures, posters all sorts of things advertising etc, all using trees and polluting the planet….All to tell us not to use trees or pollute the planet.

[Alex Pirozek]

Food for thought, i wonder why you never see different views in the main stream media 😮

Sometimes i wonder if the mainstream media resembles the character from the James Bond film "Tomorrow never dies"…Elliot Carver the media tycoon. or is it my conspiracy mind wandering again 🙄 🙄 🙄

[Robert Lambie]

something ill have to get sorted having recently installed our second printer.

this is another option for disposing of carts etc would be interested to hear if anyone is already using them?

http://www.colorgreen.co.uk/

.

[Mike D]

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[David Rowland]

oh that interesting…. colorific should have told me about this

[Chris Wool]

quote Mike D:

our empty seiko cartridges go to a company called wastenot and we get a rebate for them of a fiver , not much but last lot went out there was 40 of em , adds up in the long run and is hopefully recycled

may we have more info please tried a search but don’t think i found them

chris

[George Elsmore]

http://wastenotinternational.com/

try here Chris

[Mike D]

just had a quick look got another sixty odd stacked up , been a bit busy

[Russell Huffer]

I know the question is about Versacam cartridges but I have recently changed from Roland to Mimaki and Hybrid who supply the Mimakis in the UK have a recycling system in place where by when you get enough they give you free full cartridges back.

Maybe if enough people questioned Roland they might start a simalar scheeme.

Regards

Russell.

[Robert Lambie]

Roland did this years back with PC60 & PC600 carts Russell. you sent them back a set amount of carts and they sent you a new print head for your machine. worked out well as i think the guesstimate on the head life was that of the amount of carts used. so when you had run that amount of carts you were getting the head free.
however, you HAD to return genuine carts… and carts were expensive.

[Chris Wool]

rob that was a good system i had 3 free heads over the years

200 old roland carts = new head worth £200 at the time and i my opinion was better than using after market ribbons and buying the heads.

chris

[Russell Huffer]

Yes these have to be genuine Mimaki carts however as the machine has loads of warranty left I see it as if you have to use the genuine you may as well have all the benefits, also not seen any 3rd party replacements for ss21 mimaki inks as yet, i guess they will appear as the jv33 nears its second anniversary and the older ones come out of warranty

Regards

Russell.

[Lee Attewell]

I guess I’m lucky here, my Roland dealer here takes back old cartridges and gives me $10 back off my service charge for each one.

They re fill and re sell.

[Jason Xuereb]

quote Lee Attewell:

I guess I’m lucky here, my Roland dealer here takes back old cartridges and gives me $10 back off my service charge for each one.

They re fill and re sell.

I think I’d get services for free from now on lol.

[Alan Wharton]

Slap me if im off track here (:) but if you have so many empty/used carts how come you dont go onto bulk ink systems ! no more empties 🙂 simples 🙄

[Robert Lambie]

Roland don’t do bulk ink systems.

220ml
440ml

litre carts for the larger AJ machines, but still big carts.

[Lee Attewell]

What Mr Southern Comfort said ^^^^^ 😉