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Website ranking
Hi all , its not exactly signs , but was wondering if any of you lot where willing to discuss your experience in getting your website ranked in search engines etc…
Maybe you have listed your sites on mother sites somewhere , or are you just in yahoo google etc…
Does anybody have any good tips and experiences
Does anybody keep track of “hits” and how you get them
How many customer come across your site via a search on the web
etc etcAny advice would be helpful….
I have built many sites in the past , but always put off by the ranking problem , many companies out their want your money to keep you “up top” , does anybody know if these work ?
If others out there build there own , have you have any good ranking with META stuff alone ?
Cheers , SD
PS , Rob , your is a very good example , would you mind giving us some tips on how your site has got all over the place !!! ?
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gypsy, i think i am in the same boat as you.
Always thought “website popularity” was part of the ranking on some of the search engines.Google indexes the “entire” site (if it can)
MSN Search is now big on the scene, not sure how that works.
Google ads, can be expensive but ideal if you have “unique products” but not so good for Sign Writers due to vast competition.
Yell.com is good for your sign making business as locals need to find it!
Overture was value for money, sponsore words on Ask/AOL/Yahoo/BT/MSN search and gave you a figure, much cheaper then Google Ads, but has pitfalls as MSN and other search engines have opted out of Overture. You seen the “Sponsorred Link” on some ssearch engines, that is Overture at work.
Not really sure how the these people who offer “Submit to search engines” work, some ask for annual fees. Never got down to the bottom of it as always thought it was a scam.
Perhap Rob can tell us if he uses any special services for this site as I found it on Google many years ago and most of the people appears to be Google indexed regularly.
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One of my customers signed up to the google ads, and his hits have quadrupled.
I tried the engine submission people when I first started, all it did was increase my spam traffic.
The best way to get up the rankings is to make sure your metafile covers every word associated with your industry, and you get hits on the site. The easiest way to do this is make your own site, your home page. Get other clients to swap links with your site too.
The more links the crawlers pick up, and the more hits to your site, will automatically increase your rank.
Having said that, if your opposition are larger than you, and better promoters of their site, you’ll always be behind.
I promote my site on everything, and on google, searching for ‘computer cut signs qld’, I am consistantly in the top 20 or so listed.
Hope that helps.
Cheers
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Hi Guys
You have to be on the first couple of pages on any search engine as punters just will not search through hundreds of pages.
On google search for Sign Maker under your town and I bet the entries on the first page are directories and not actual sign makers website. I did a search on Google for Sign Makers Newcastle upon Tyne (why i do not know but it does not matter which town) and it got 91400 results but the first page was directories linking to sign makers websites registered with them.
What does this tell you – Google prioritise popular websites first and directories that get 1000’s of hits a day will always score more than Joe Signmaker down the street whose website link might be on page 2400 because he gets 10 hits a week.
Register your business with these directories – just search google make a note of the directories on the first page and go and register for free with them. Try Applegate, Yell, Touch or any local one’s for your town.
They do work although do not expect a mad rush – Yellow Pages will generate more and takes some beating but over the year a website will pay for itself.
I work from home in North Yorkshire and just delivered via supplier a load of perspex to Scotland business made a £100 for a phone call and couple e-mails. This contact came from my website which costs me £23 every two years. They want some more in a week or two as well. So I am £77 up at least over the next two years – this time next year Rodney! 😛
Mike
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There used to be a site called web mechanic that examijned your site and tuned it up for the web bots.
It’s what you put in the Meta keywords that gets you picked up.
I know no more than that. -
some useful sites although not directly related to the thread
Cheers
Andrew
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This is something that can be helpful, but I fear that “UK Only” listings is not an option.
http://www.googlerankings.com/
it is part of google, it allows you to search the position of your page on google, the SEO tool will examine your website for keyword popularty and then checks it on Google.COM for a position rank.
Pretty cool… you will need to Sign up for Free to get a daft API Key.
Found some of my email from this site ending up in the Spam folders but shouldn’t be a email collector as part of google. -
We do a bit of web programming among other things.
10% of our income comes from web sales of our portable display products.
I dont want give to much away as it has taken a lot of time to gather the information, but a few pointers may help after all this what we do here.
We have been manipulating a couple of websites to see if what we think works with google and it does.
Dont waste to much time with adwords on google if you want a true free listing it has no influence onyour rank. Adords works for some you can get more traffic but it is expensive in the long run.
Spend no more than £150 onsite submission services this just speeds things up by 6 months if you follow some of the steps below you need not pay. Use http://www.inktomi.com though this may not b the best now as we dont bother with site submission.
Urban myth google does not account for 80% of the web search traffic google, aol, msn account for less than 50% ofall search enging traffic. Google is the biggest within that.
Depending onyour targeted key words and their popularity/ value within google dictates how google handles its ranking of pages.
On the keywords we would use for signage exhibition googles algorythm has a major reliance on link popularity ie how many websites it finds you site listed on. Try it type in a keyword signage related and then see who is listed in the first page then in the google search bar type link:www.whatever website you want to see the number of sites that google finds it on try for a site on page 10 who has the more links and where do they rank.
It goes without saying that search engine optimisation good meta tags and keyword placement in your page text help make it easy for engines to read your site and make it “relevant” to the keywrod searches they will list you on. You canread plenty on this from lots of online sources.
Register your site with as many directories as you can eg local authority, fan clubs, etc anywhere that results with your sites web address being listed.
Swapping links between suppliers customers friends family and anyone who will swap a web link with you increases your link popularity and will increase your page rank.
If you want to swap a link with me get in touch. (mod if you edit this pm the reason)
once your site appears on another site or directory submit that URL to google
i have asked rob if we could start website link service on the boards. Not too keen as there are admin problems etc still i think it could be a good benefit for all the members. Just see how many links we could have.
anyway thats my two pence worth.
cheers
john
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