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  • Neil Davey

    Member
    December 15, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    ?????

    Font is New Charles Wright.

    You’ll also have to register with the DVLA (if you haven’t already) to be able to buy blanks.

    High fines too, up to £2000 for anyone supplying non standard plates. Can’t even sell as show plates.

    Is it worth it? 😕

  • Paul Humble

    Member
    December 15, 2009 at 1:31 pm
    quote Neil Davey:

    ?????

    Font is New Charles Wright.

    You’ll also have to register with the DVLA (if you haven’t already) to be able to buy blanks.

    High fines too, up to £2000 for anyone supplying non standard plates. Can’t even sell as show plates.

    Is it worth it? 😕

    £5000 now.

  • Neil Davey

    Member
    December 15, 2009 at 2:51 pm
    quote Paul Humble:

    quote Neil Davey:

    ?????

    Font is New Charles Wright.

    You’ll also have to register with the DVLA (if you haven’t already) to be able to buy blanks.

    High fines too, up to £2000 for anyone supplying non standard plates. Can’t even sell as show plates.

    Is it worth it? 😕

    £5000 now.

    Even worse, lot of money for a £10 misdemeanor 😕

  • J E Kempster

    Member
    December 15, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    It no big deal to get registered I would do it anyway

  • John Childs

    Member
    December 15, 2009 at 2:59 pm
    quote J E Kempster:

    It no big deal to get registered I would do it anyway

    I’m not sure that you understand Josie.

    Yes, you need to be registered to obtain supplies, but the thing is that you cannot now sell show plates. They must be standard.

  • Paul Humble

    Member
    December 15, 2009 at 3:00 pm
    quote J E Kempster:

    It no big deal to get registered I would do it anyway

    Yes but you still cant make showplates that bear any Vehicle Registration Mark if your business is registered in the UK.

  • Martin Oxenham

    Member
    December 15, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Number plate laws are very stupid at the moment and leave no margin for common sense. We were supposed to be taken to court this week by the DVLA For various Ridiculously petty offences but they decided to drop all the charges last week. It is easier to legaly buy a shotgun than a number plate.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    December 15, 2009 at 11:21 pm
    quote Martin Oxenham:

    Number plate laws are very stupid at the moment and leave no margin for common sense. We were supposed to be taken to court this week by the DVLA For various Ridiculously petty offences but they decided to drop all the charges last week. It is easier to legaly buy a shotgun than a number plate.

    Have you tried to buy a shotgun recently?

    I think you may have the wrong analogy Martin.
    the market is still rife with illegal plate suppliers,
    the sooner the laws are enforced the better.

    just my opinion though.

    I have heard all the arguments for the production of illegal plates, and most are to evade the law.l

    The fact is, it is the law, so why are people so adamant that making plates that break the law is ok?
    Peter

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    December 15, 2009 at 11:24 pm
    quote J E Kempster:

    I am thinking of going into show plates has anyone the number plate software etc

    Thanks Josie

    I think you are just having a laaf, Josie….or playing devils advocate…. 😀
    You have been a member of the boards long enough to know the number plate rules…

    Peter

  • John Childs

    Member
    December 15, 2009 at 11:46 pm
    quote Peter Normington:

    Have you tried to buy a shotgun recently?

    Yes, back in March. Just walked into the shop, picked the one I wanted, haggled a bit, and walked out with it under my arm. 😀

    Fair enough you need a shotgun certificate but, provided you have no criminal convictions or mental problems, they are easy enough to get.

    And once you have the certificate, it takes less documentation to buy a gun than it does to tax a car. And the queues are shorter in the gun shop than they are in the Post Office. 😀

  • Martin Oxenham

    Member
    December 16, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Iam not talking about illegal plates I Mean fully legal and there is less paper work required to buy a gun if you have a license. Believe me I know whats involved.

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    December 16, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    how many more sign people have shotguns 😮

    am i missing out on something 😉 is there something about customer relations i have missed (!)

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    December 16, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    So I presume it’s still legal to make a plate saying "FIESTA" etc for car dealers to have on their cars in the showroom?

    Also do the laws cover supplying cut lettering of a reg number?

    Steve

  • J E Kempster

    Member
    December 16, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Perhaps I should have said that has anyone the software that goes with my new Oki printer C5750 similar to what was sold on ebay last week that I missed it includes safety signs etc. new software is around £400. I should have added more in the description and before you tell me that if I have Corel draw I can do it myself. I know.This is made for the Oki printer
    Thanks for all your replies

  • John Childs

    Member
    December 16, 2009 at 2:37 pm
    quote Chris Wool:

    how many more sign people have shotguns

    Don’t know Chris but, apart from mine, Jenny also has one of her own, as befits a good farmer’s daughter. 😀

    quote Chris Wool:

    am i missing out on something 😉 is there something about customer relations i have missed (!)

    It’s not Customer Relations. It’s more the Complaints Department. 😀

    Sorry Stephen, I don’t have a definitive answer to your question, but I would have thought that a FIESTA would be fine because there’s no attempt there to pass it off as a genuine registration mark.

    Perhaps someone more involved can give a better answer.

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    December 16, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    I suspect it would be John as it’s just another sign, all be it in the shape and size of a number plate.

    Steve

  • Martin Oxenham

    Member
    December 16, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    Ok I’ll explain…..
    If you have a shotgun license then you must be deemed to be a fairly upstanding citizen approved by the police, and you can go into any sports shooting shop and buy a shotgun and ammunition with this document, I know cos I’ve checked. But if you come into my shop with that license and your driving license and your credit card and passport and birth certificate and cheque book and nat ins card and if you are a police officer even your warrent card and any other number of proofs of ID then I can not legaly sell you a number plate. If you have all these documents and your mot displaying the required reg and your insurance with your name and the reg, and if you have the car with you already displaying the same number plate that you want to replace then I still can’t legaly sell you a number plate, even if that car is a police patrol car and the customer is in uniform.
    I have instances where a customer is down here on business from 300 miles away and have had their plates stolen and even with many forms of ID I am still not legaly allowed to make that person any plates.The DVLA would prefer that he drives several hundred miles illegal with no plates rather than let me use common sense. My customers are not car thieves and surely the law should be adapted to allow for common sense.
    The only acceptable document for the car is the log book or road tax re-newal. Its so stupid that the log book does not even have to match the same name as the ID. So if you are on holiday several hundred miles from home and you lose a plate or have it stolen, then unless you have your log book with you then you won’t be able to buy a plate.

  • Russell Huffer

    Member
    December 17, 2009 at 8:18 am

    We do lots of number plates as we are based in a centre with both a motorcycle shop and a garage. We are lucky however that we raerly sale direct to the public as most of them go to the garage and we are able to supply to both the dealers using there license numbers meaning we print the plate and they do the paperwork.

    Regards

    Russell.

  • J E Kempster

    Member
    December 18, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    You can now buy on the internet number plate recognition software, I wonder if a number fits the registered address its alright. I’m going to ask a policeman

  • Neil Davey

    Member
    December 18, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    😕

  • John Childs

    Member
    December 18, 2009 at 3:15 pm
    quote J E Kempster:

    You can now buy on the internet number plate recognition software, I wonder if a number fits the registered address its alright. I’m going to ask a policeman

    That software will read and record registration numbers. It won’t give you access to the DVLA database to check anything.

    Keep doing the research.. 😕

  • Paul Humble

    Member
    December 18, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Yes, you can produce a plate with FIESTA on it. However you couldnt do one with F13 STA as this may be, or could in future be a VRM (Vehicle Registration Mark).

    Ill try to dig the very detailed letter out that the DVLA sent all registered numberplate suppliers last year.

  • Michael Potter

    Member
    December 18, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    sorry to appear really Dumb, but what are we talking about?
    Were sign makers in the UK allowed to make car number plates?
    In Australia we can only get them from government dept. The plates are aluminum with reflective backgrounds & numbers. They are made in the prison system as one of the forms of work available, Given that a lot of them are there for car theft I find this slightly amusing, it has also become a good source of extra money as you can order plates with all sorts of sayings logos or number combinations. In NSW the plain jane ones cost $37.00 but the high end ones can run in to $800 or more.
    cheers to all & A very merry Christmas
    Mike

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    December 18, 2009 at 10:13 pm
    quote Michael Potter:

    sorry to appear really Dumb, but what are we talking about?
    Were sign makers in the UK allowed to make car number plates?
    In Australia we can only get them from government dept. The plates are aluminum with reflective backgrounds & numbers. They are made in the prison system as one of the forms of work available, Given that a lot of them are there for car theft I find this slightly amusing, it has also become a good source of extra money as you can order plates with all sorts of sayings logos or number combinations. In NSW the plain jane ones cost $37.00 but the high end ones can run in to $800 or more.
    cheers to all & A very merry Christmas
    Mike

    Mike
    our plates have always been made by private companies, but because people started to personalise the style, rather that just the numbers, our number plate recognition cameras were having problems regognising them, so now laws have been introduced to try and standardise the system. its a bit of a nightmare really
    it would be better just to scrap the system, and do as most of the rest of the word, the government supply the plates..

    Peter

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    December 18, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    ..or scrap the speed cameras 😕

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    December 18, 2009 at 10:39 pm
    quote Phill:

    ..or scrap the speed cameras 😕

    why do we need number plates anyway?

    Peter

  • Martin Oxenham

    Member
    December 18, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    Michael The number plate system in the UK is much bigger than yours with numbers changing hands for hundreds of thousands of pounds eg S1 NGH £250,000 Ok for Mr Singh. I think the whole thing of using number plates for identification is totally wrong as number plates are an after market bolt on item which the DVLA encourage people to change. So cars should be made with a number built into the car in the back window or somewhere which stays with the car for life and the speed cameras etc pick up this number. I’m sure the technology exists. So the external plate is a secondary form of ID for accidents etc.

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    December 19, 2009 at 11:16 am

    Martin, your going to confuse Michael with your last post. Number plates do stay with the car for it’s whole life. Yes that number can now be changed to a different number but the car will always only have one registration number at any one time and that number is kept on record.
    The DVLA only encourage people to change their registration number because the Government has realised it can make a huge amount of money by selling registration numbers themselves and if the system were to change then how would DVLA make a fortune out of selling numbers.

  • John Wilson

    Member
    December 19, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    How can you tell if a trader has the proper license to sell plates legally?

    Seems that there is alot of people out there still selling "showplates" claiming to be legit

  • Martin Oxenham

    Member
    December 19, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    authorised suppliers are given a DVLA number. You can find an authorised dealer in your area on the internet. Even authorised dealers still sell show plates.

  • Peter Mindham

    Member
    December 23, 2009 at 9:45 pm
    quote Martin:

    Martin, your going to confuse Michael with your last post. Number plates do stay with the car for it’s whole life. Yes that number can now be changed to a different number but the car will always only have one registration number at any one time and that number is kept on record.
    The DVLA only encourage people to change their registration number because the Government has realised it can make a huge amount of money by selling registration numbers themselves and if the system were to change then how would DVLA make a fortune out of selling numbers.

    Not strictly true Martin. It is feasible that a number taken off a vehicle could be placed in the pool and sold to someone else.

    I have seen this happen

    peter

  • Peter Mindham

    Member
    December 23, 2009 at 9:46 pm
    quote Russell Huffer:

    We do lots of number plates as we are based in a centre with both a motorcycle shop and a garage. We are lucky however that we raerly sale direct to the public as most of them go to the garage and we are able to supply to both the dealers using there license numbers meaning we print the plate and they do the paperwork.

    Regards

    Russell.

    Russell,

    You still need a license to make these plates for the dealers.

    Peter

  • Russell Huffer

    Member
    December 24, 2009 at 8:20 am

    Peter,

    Yes we have a license, so do the car dealers and the motorcycle sales so we can print using any one of the 3 license numbers, we just select one of them in the software as set up by the supplier.

    If we ourselves print a plate we have to do all the paperwork however if we print for one of the other business they have to do the paperwork as the plate goes against there license number.

    So as i say nice and easy for us as most of our number plates are sold to the garage who do MOTs.

    Regards

    Russell.

  • Peter Mindham

    Member
    January 1, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    Hi Russell, glad to hear it. It came over as thinking you didnt need the license and I wouldnt want you to get nicked for a £10 plate. Seems you got it under control though 🙂

    Peter

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