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Vinyl for color-camm
Help I’m stuck 😳
I’ve been getting some fairly sub-standard prints lately and am 100% convinced its the vinyl. I’ve been doing some garments today using Victory’s hot print film which is a satin/matt finish and I had absolutely no banding or dodgy lines whatsoever. I then ran the same job using the same settings on my serical gloss vinyl and it was disgusting.
What I need to know is if anyone knows if there is a suitable matt vinyl available that will print beautifully on the c.c
Also I’ve seen loads designed for printing with solvent/wide format machines can these be run through the color camm?
Thanks in advance
Andy -
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will matt oracal not work good? i find it has a excellent printing surface. i would imagine the matt grade the same.
i always feel that avery has a similar uneven sorta surface with there gloss range. i dont mean an obvious one to look at, just…well you know.. doesnt seem just as good. this maybe the case with the brand you are using now. not sure 🙄maybe dave staden will answer this one better.
regarding the inkjet vinyl etc.. do you mean the coated vinyls available?
not my feild at the moment, im just learning myself but from what i have seen it can be pricey depending on the source. 😕 -
Hi Rob,
I know exactly what you mean about the “uneven” surface of some films, you can sort of see minute dimples if you catch the surface at the right light.
The Inkjet vinyls, I’ve been looking at some tonight (namely mactac) and they do a satin finish which is by their wording “perfect surface for high quality printing” Was just hoping it would be suitable for thermal. I’ve sent an email to them and hope to find out tomorrow.
Andy
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mactac is another great barnd of vinyl to use. let us know how you get on. would be interesting to know.
on that, i have some samples of coloured glass etch from mactac.
golds, silver, mint, pastel pink etc cracking stuff with a 5 year+ life. im gonna give it a go. they are a fraction of the cost of the 3M range i enquired about 😕 -
that’s funny Andy – Only last week I have been experiencing problems printing onto clear 751 series Oracal. The print just doesn’t want to take yet when I print on another vinyl (751 white) it’s fine. I’ve printed on clear many times without any problems and it’s not an absence of white I’m seeing more a failure of the colour to distribute itself evenly across the surface.
I spoke to the Europoint rep about it and he suggested that there may be a coating of silicon on the surface of the vinyl preventing the colour from going on. They’ve sent me some more clear vinyl (from another batch) to try (it arrived today but I haven’t yet got around to testing it).
Given that I understand some of these companies share manufacturing facilities, I just wondered if it was the same problem. Cleaning the surface with isopropyl alcohol doesn’t cure the problem I’m having – only a different vinyl seems to fix it.
I’m told that Oracal 851 (cast) when introduced recently caused a similar problem. Is anyone else using thermal transfer printing machines experiencing problems with vinyl just now?
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Hi Folks
All PC60 users should be aware that the machine needs to work in a warm environment – with the same applying to the vinyl. Your manual refers to this. It’s Winter going on Spring – and if you’ve got a cold workshop – you’ll get patchy prints! Warm up the room and the vinyl or just warm up the vinyl as it feeds into the PC60 – and you should find that your problems go away.
Regards Dave Standen -
I’ve tried a different batch of clear vinyl now and it’s printing fine. The original clear vinyl still prints patchy so I reckon the problem (in my case) was with the vinyl.
I’m aware of the issue regarding temperature and have found that warming the vinyl and the room does improve the quality – but that wasn’t the problem (in my case) on this occasion – perhaps it will solve Andy’s problem though.
Thanks for your advice Dave 😀
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