vinyl for cadet

[AdamBooth]

Hi Eddie a good vinyl. To try is the Uniform

UN405a MD3 gloss
UN406a Matt
UN407a Clear

50m rolls/760mm wide

[eddie cotter]

thanks adam 😉 , i was stuck yeasterday for vinyl in a hurry
to try out the cadet so i got a roll of metamark 5-7 yr digital gloss
but will keep it in mind for next time, thanks again, eddie

[Rodney Gold]

Graphityp s22p is a VERY nice vinyl , it’s specifically formulated for digital printing , is wound with constant tension , is wound dust free , has no drek on top to act as any barrier to inks , is fairly cheap (costs us around 3 quid per sq) , is 5-7 yrs , is THICK (you will soon find thin vinyls a BIG problem) and has a special liner that DOESNT ruck or warp when its on the heaters and it has a VERY nice white point.
We have moved from “normal” sign vinyl to digital print specific vinyls as they are often cheaper and a LOT better

[eddie cotter]

hi rodney, i did some printing today, auctioneers signs, 24″x24″ all on the one peice, then mounted it wet on to 6mm corriboard, i found that the print was realy thin & it had a big tendancy to pull out of shape as i was taking it of the backing paper, it was hard work getting it on to the board
& getting it even, i got it in the end, maby i shoul have left it dry longer,
vinyl was metamark 5-7 digital 😮 eddie

[Robert Lambie]

how long did you leave it before applying mate?

[eddie cotter]

about ten minutes rob 😮 mabey i was being to cheeky, i didnt print right to the edge as i was worried about it lifting, so i left a small white border, it still buckeld abit at the edges it was like the vinyl was to thin?
i have a feeling the ink was making the media extra soft if you know what i mean 😮

[Robert Lambie]

yeh.. i would imagine it is the ink mate.. touch dry but needs time to properly dry.
a while back i used to paint on solvent inks to vinyl to change the colour. it turned to chewing-gum basicaly.. very stretchy etc. impossible to apply. decided not to use it.. next day i come into work and its perfect! 😕 applied just as normal..
ok, so not really the same in comparison but same idea.
ide leave it a while mate then apply. 😉

[Rodney Gold]

Thats a fact of life with vinyl and any solvent based printer , it “thins” the graphic where it prints , leading to exactly what you are talking about. (happens on mine too – eco-sol inks)
There is a particular issue when one cuts decals on a bleed of dark printing and the edges start curling , it’s almost as tho the sticker shrinks. If you roll the sheets of decals , its a disaster.
It’s worse with some vinyls than others , especially some of the premium polymerics. As I say , I find the s22p good in that it seems to have a nice blend of conformability and thickness. Waiting a bit will help a little , but not that much in these cases , tho applying right after printing isnt advisable , cos as rob says , you dealing with a chewing gum 🙂
Using a paper application tape helps rather than appling the graphic “naked” (it also stops print damage when squeegeing)
If you lam and cut , then this problem dissapears and application is a breeze.

[buffnutt]

ive had this problem with exactly the same media,what i have a tendancey to do is print it in the morning if possible then apply it later in the day,this helps a lot,ive also printed onto mactac 5-7 year standar vinyl and left it an hour and away to go ,, 😆

[eddie cotter]

😉 your right lads! left the next print for a few hours & it went on perfect,

[Robert Lambie]

good to hear mate 😉