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  • Vinyl applied to new paint panels on cars.

    Posted by Chris Rundle on February 26, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    Hi all, im sure this questions been asked before.
    I haven’t really heard the facts of what could happen applying vinyl to a new paint job? how long should it be left for before applying?

    cheers

    Phill Fenton replied 14 years, 2 months ago 7 Members · 11 Replies
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  • David Rogers

    Member
    February 26, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Depends what type of paint.

    Water based, cellulose solvent or two-pack (2K).

    Whether it was baked after spraying, how well it was keyed before spraying…multitude of things.

    I normally recommend at least a week unless it’s come from a ‘pro’ paint sprayer then allow 3-4 days.

    Best test is – if you can dent it with your nail…best leave it a few extra days.

    Dave

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    February 26, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    If its been done by a professional body shop you will have no problems applying the same day it has been painted
    I have done repairs for ten years for an insurance company owned bodyshop, and not one come back

    Peter

  • Paul Humble

    Member
    February 26, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    I fitted Cooper stripes to a Mini 2 days after it was painted. 3 months later I was asked to take them off and replace with pink ones. The laquer and paint came off with the stripe right down to the primer :S

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    February 26, 2010 at 9:25 pm
    quote Paul Humble:

    I fitted Cooper stripes to a Mini 2 days after it was painted. 3 months later I was asked to take them off and replace with pink ones. The laquer and paint came off with the stripe right down to the primer :S

    must have been a bad paint job then

    Peter

  • Paul Humble

    Member
    February 26, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    I argued the case and got the bonnet repainted free of charge. But theres no doubt a moral there somewhere. I could actually smell the laquer as it was coming off.

  • Richard Urquhart

    Member
    February 26, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Peter is correct here, all good body shops now use water base coat followed by 2k clearcoat the base coat is painted in the oven with good air circulation then once flashed off is coated with clear 2k top coat, this is then baked for 40min, after this time the car and paint cool and the 2k hardens, due to the amount of solvent used these days there is not the problem of out gassing as there was in the days of celly. I would be more than happy to apply vinyl after this time.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    February 26, 2010 at 9:37 pm
    quote Paul Humble:

    I argued the case and got the bonnet repainted free of charge. But theres no doubt a moral there somewhere. I could actually smell the laquer as it was coming off.

    Not sure what you mean Paul, why would they not respray the bonnet free of charge? it was not your problem, you applied decals to their bad paint
    Peter

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    February 26, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    I wait a minimum of two weeks regardless of the type of paint.
    Better safe than sorry and I sure as heck don’t want to be blamed for something that wasn’t my fault.
    I tell every client two weeks when this question comes up.
    I have had masking tape peel up paint from a truck once so I am admittedly paranoid.
    Love…Jill
    PS
    also there could be outgassing causing your vinyl to bubble.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    February 26, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    Jill
    as far as repairs are concerned, if I told my clients to wait two weeks I wouldnt have any clients,

    trust me, and Rich.

    if the paint job is sound or not, it is not your problem, it is theirs.
    Peter

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    February 26, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    this saved my bacon on a job I was nervous about…well extremely nervous as I had seen the guy prepping.
    I mentioned my qualms to the customer and he really didn’t believe me and told me to go ahead and get the job done. So when I was cutting the stuff up for the job I took two long pieces of waste vinyl with me and when I got to the job applied them (application tape and masking tape holders and all) to both sides of my own car.
    As I feared I had no end of trouble with the clients van, paint flaking off with the application tape. Client called sprayer who blamed me and arrived, I argued my case and then pulled both long lengths off my own car without a prob (phew!)
    Sprayer hadn’t a leg to stand on then….respray at his expense.
    Sorry to be long winded but I would do it again if I was nervous.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    February 26, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    Factory paint and professional bodyshop applied paint should not be a problem. But from personal experience I think it’s always best to advise the client of potential problems when applying vinyl to a resprayed vehicle.
    https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=34625&highlight=outgassing

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