Vertical Board cutters, advice needed please?

[Dan Osterbery]

We have one of these and i think its awesome. Cuts 305cm x 205cm sheets.

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[Alex Crosbie]

We have a trimfast cutter, it’s cheap but we find it doesn’t reliably cut to the set size and can’t work out why it seems to vary.

The clamp for holding 3mm foamex isn’t strong enough so tends to move on smaller pieces, it’s an issue on thinner pieces of dibond too.

When we ordered he machine we were told we could have it next day, then a call back to say it would be three days, then another call to say it would be another week, three weeks later it arrived.
The machine came with the wrong instructions from a machine that was made a year earlier, which made it tricky to put the thing together.

The laser guide is a half baked afterthought with the battery pack velcroed to the side and cables that get knocked regularly.

Allow 3 or 4 hours to assemble and mount to the wall but a good half day of trying to level and get it to cut straight with the base.

On reflection I wish I’d spent the extra and gone for the keencut however I’ve not put one together or used one.

If you want to have a go with mine you’re welcome to!

[Tahsin Niyazi]

Thanks Dan and Alex. Your input is greatly appreciated. I’ll stay clear of the trimfast as you mentioned.

I’m looking at the keencut steeltrak and the Neolt sword currently since the feedback on the trimfast is no good then 8).

Mines mainly going to cut foamex so nothing major but straight cuts is a must.

The neolt offers delivery install and training. Even though I’m guessing training is a hour process [emoji23]. But let’s see.

As soon as I get it and used it for the job I’ll give you a update.

Tas

[Peter Wynne]

I second the feedback on the trimfast. Worst £4000 we’ve ever spent (I think that’s what it was anyway).

Has never reliably cut straight and/or accurate since the day we had it. Its accuracy is determined by a single screw which even a SLIGHT turn of will knock it out of sync. You have to waste loads of board to test it to get it back in sync, and then you only know it’s gone out again when it’s too late.

We simply use ours now to cut down offcuts to fit in the bin. I’d sell it in a heartbeat given the chance!!

[Tahsin Niyazi]

Thanks peter. I was going to buy the trimfast after watching a couple videos on YouTube but good job I asked here and got some real reviews on it.

[Kevin Mahoney]

Got similar views on my steeltrak, dibond cuts are merely ok, never completely square & the v groove attachment is appalling, bought a festool milling machine soon after. My advice, use your budget to buy a decent table saw & extractor

[Ewan Chrystal]

Anyone used these before?

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[Kevin Mahoney]

Looked at these a while ago, looks really good but as I bought the festool track for the milling machine I guess I’m tied into buying the festool saw to match up

[Dan Osterbery]

We had the festool saw and guide, very similar to this saw system, before we bought the inglet verdi cutter. Time saved with the new vertical saw is incredible. Saw and guide systems work well though, we used ours for over 10 years.

cheers

Dan

[Tahsin Niyazi]

I have the Mimaki saw and guide, its great but you have to clamp the guide so not to move when gliding across. Very time consuming.

What Steeltrak you got Kevin?. Im after the 250 so can cut 8x4ft sheets.

I have also found the Inglet Inblade 250, which is in the same price as the Sword which was mentioned previous.

Just trying to bite the bullet on which one to proceed with 8(. Even the Keencuts have bad feedback.

[Dan Osterbery]

We have had the inglet saw for just under a year. It hasnt missed a beat. Cuts super accurate. If you have bulk work then you can even cut 4 x 5mm pvc sheets at once. We also added the laser and it is also super accurate. I cant recomend it enough. Yes its not cheap but quality rarely is. We are expecting at least ten years of life from her and the rime it is saving is incredible.

[Tahsin Niyazi]

Thanks Dan,

The one im looking at is 3K+vat. So most likely bite the bullet with this one.

Regards,
Tas

[Dan Osterbery]

I would strongly recommend going to have a look and a play with it first. Goodluck

[Tahsin Niyazi]

I hope signmaster has a demo of the inglet.

Thanks guys for all the advice.

[David Stevenson]

quote Ewan Chrystal:

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Bought one of these and a total waste of money! Makes a terrible mess even with a high power vacuum attached, very restricted to what depth it can cut, and massively over priced compared to similar models available for the wood working trade. On the plus side does a very neat cut with the correct fine toothed blade if your prepared to clean the entire work piece and cutting area afterwards

[Dilwyn Evans]

Afternoon

Dan you mention you have the Inglet Verdi Twin 305E Vertical Panel Cutter :smiles:

We are also looking at replacing our Board Cutters

Got an Axminster Safety Speed H5 Panel Saw – TO MUCH SWAFT WITH COMPOSITE BOARDS
Apollo 250 – NOT VERY ACCURATE * HAVING TO CLAMP JOBS TO FRAME TO STOP MOVEMENT

Dan is the machine still working like a dream ?

How much dust does it create on Composite Board * as it is still a circular saw ?
Is there any annoying issues that you have encountered ?

** looking at going for a demo with Lion – but additional advice appreciated ** long way to travel 🙂

Been also looking at the NEOLT SWARD – looks over complicated.

Thanks Dil

[Dan Osterbery]

Hi Dil,
yes we still love it. It has worked hard, we may have only had it 18 months but it has worked two complete seasons. It is still accurate, and as yet (touch wood) no problems, its a solid bit of kit.

We have an extraction system, so most of the cutting debris goes and we don’t see it. Dibond creates very little dust. Our twin has a circular saw one side, and then a cutting knife the other (we have never used it for dibond but i believe you can (something to check when you see them and i believe they have a v groove cutter if you wish to fold dibond) and if that is the case, you can cut dibond with no debris at all.

It also has a pneumatic clamp that holds everything into place for a good cut, but we have also found it very useful if we have applied vinyl to a board and it is not quite right, with the clamp and the lazer it is very easy to saw off unwanted or unsightly bits where the vinyl has missed. Easy to operate, simple cutting machine, it still gets the thumbs up from us! :thumbsup:

Best

Dan

[Dilwyn Evans]

Thanks for the swift reply Dan.

Exactly what I wanted to hear.

Will go and give it a test 🙂

Thanks Dil

[Dilwyn Evans]

Dan

Forgot to mention this earlier – as regarding cutting composite with the blade side

Me
Good Morning – Just a general enquiry. Love the idea of your cutters * got Apollo at the moment * waste of time *. I have one question as a signmaker. we cut a lot of Composite 3mm – what is the reason why you haven’t developed the Twin Roller Composite Cutter for your pneumatic machine ? I understand that you probably have a better cut with the saw blade but our biggest concern with the saw and composite is dust and static Thanks in advance Hope the above makes sense to you Dilwyn Evans

Verdi
Dear Dilwyn Evans,

First of all, thanks for your interest in our products!

Following your email, I understand you are talking about our VERDI TWIN saws and cutters. The reason is that the pneumatic cutter is not strong enough in order to cut aluminium composite correctly.
For the moment, we offer the saw blade or a manual cutter.

Thanks for your comments.

[KevinGaffney]

Bought the 2.5m keencut steeltrak at sign uk this year. One of our best ever purchases at under 3k. Cut and v groove loads of composite and our female staff cut tons of correx boards daily, no bother. It rarely sits idle for more than an hour

[Andy Coles]

Try the vertical panel saws at http://www.axminster.co.UK. for 8×4 sheets just over 2k. For 3m x 1500 sheets about £2700 (the one we have). Excellent bits of kit for the money

[Phil Davies]

I have an Axminster C4 I use for cutting mostly woods etc. It is incredibly dusty tbh. I have a Bosch extractor rated better than the axminster NV750 which is recommended but its a pig for dust. Goes Everywhere!

(Especially when the hose falls out of the vacuum when you move it and you connect it to the BLOW side instead of SUCK :blushing: ).

[Dilwyn Evans]

Our Axminster will be laid to rest once we finish cutting 38mm Mezzanine floor boards :praiseyou:
We only use it for cutting 10×5 boards in half and that is a 2 man job :shocked:
We have a race to see who gets the clean end, loser gets covered in black plastic :shake:
10×5 boards are cut horizontally so you need to make sure the top piece doesn’t drop onto the blade at the end and damage the board.

We had a Keencut over 10 years ago, followed by the Trimfast all have the same problems poor cuts / straightness issues.

The problem gets worse the taller the machine you buy – flex in aluminium extrusions ?

I’m looking at the Verdi as its 100% automated, which also eliminates human error.

I look at it like the roller shutter doors we’ve had 😉
The chain / manual option will give you so much trouble over the years and need to be changed :bangshead:
The electric version works as good as the day it was fitted :thumbsup:

[MikeO]

If anyone is interested I have a 3m Inglet Verde circular saw/cutter for sale due to business closure.
It’s on an auction site at present but please contact me if you’d like any more info
01492 330222

https://auction.newengland.co.uk/lots/a … -machinery