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vehicle wrap: sunnydecks
This is my first wrap guys, very pleased with it.
I designed it, printed it with the trusty versacamm and laminated it. We used the grafiwrap system to do this and l thought it was easy to work with. I’ve done a few part wraps with other stuff but l think l’ll be using this again.
Anyway, the purpose of this post is to find out how much you would charge.
the back panel is just as you see it, the sides are total coverage apart from the top of the door and the front right wing, l bled the print out to white into the door and tried to do the same into the front wing but the sizing on the profile was obviously incorrect. (thats my excuse and l’m sticking to it). I didn’t have time to check the size as it was a rush job.
So, how much would you charge?
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£1400?? total guess
Simon
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I have very little idea how much but would have thought 1000 pounds would be a reasonable amount.
How many man hours have gone into this from start to finish Billy?
I would guess about a days work for two people fitting, and another half day for one person to design plus a half day to print and laminate. In which case 24 man hours at say 30 pounds an hour, plus materials cost and markup. Hence 720 + Materials cost and mark up?
Just “guestimating” as I have no experience of this but would be interested to hear more from the experts on how long a job like this takes and how much you can charge for it?
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£1000 sounds about right. there are too many people out there undercutting themself…
this is mostly flat panel work sooo…
fitting on that make of van wouldnt be so much an issue and to be honest i wouldnt have bothered with a wrap vinyl. i would however have laminated and i guess at the cost of lam and vinyl, the 2 part grafiwrap would ultimately give you peace of mind at a reasonable cost.
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No idea what to charge for a job like that, but its a cracking job you’ve done there Mr Wifta! 😀 You certainly use your tools of the trade to the max! Really cool!
Cheers, Dewi
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This is a very interesting topic, many people have asked me how much it costs to wrap a medium size van, it would be great to know what ad companies pay to get London Cabs completely wrapped too.
Would you charge for design separately. Bear in mind that this can be a lenghty process and for best results the use of Hi-res stock photogrpahy or otherwise should be used. This could increase the cost.
It can take your designer quite a few hours and even longer if the customer is fussy. Well spending that amount of money, they would want to get it right I am sure. What do you reckon?
I have quoted someone £1400 and they didn’t fall over, so I think the general public opinion is that it is costlier than they think. They also haven’t got a clue how it is done. So many people think I ‘spray painted’ mine!!
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Again: No idea but a great job
John
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I’d say between £1000 – £1400.
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hard work to get them to spent £1000 in the south west but thats whats the job about worth
ps very nice job tooo
chris
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Thanks for the comments lads.
The thing is with this one, the customer (who l know socially) hasn’t asked for a price.
I think l’m going to go around the “bag of sand” mark.
I agree with you chris, not too sure whether he’ll be happy to part with a grand but thats what the job is worth, at least.
I have to say that l really enjoyed this job, l learnt loads from the fitting. Would love to do a bit more wrapping and l’m definately going to go on a course this winter. -
Had the van back in today.
The vinyl has come away in four places (only minimal – 1cm bubbles) and all at the same area. It is where the vinyl tile occurs in the panel recess, the recess on these vans is only very slight so l’m slightly annoyed at this. It’s weird that it is on the overlap in four different places on the van!!
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sorry to hear this billy.. always a frustrating when something like this happens.. 😕
when you say on the overlaps. do you mean the overlapping tiles, adhesion has come away from the vinyl tile below on the recess. OR both tils have come away at the overlap?
also, how far along the recess has the pull-back occoured each side of tile overlap.. 2-3 inches or all the way along? -
Has anyone done any specific training in vehicle wrapping, and if so could they provide any details, comments etc. Thanks…
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Rob.
The adhesion has come away on the vinyl tile below (not the overlapping tile). The bubbles are probably about 2cm long and no more. I tried to get them back down but it doesn’t look good.
Luckily the customer accepts that this was on the cards and hasn’t made a big fuss but it’s pi**ed me off.
We cleaned all the recesses last with white spirits and ensured that there were no bits of dirt or bits from the rags we use.
Frustrating 👿
The vinyl has gone down great on all other parts of the van, l wonder whether this is common with grafiwrap and it is something they need to improve on?
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not sure mate.. ill have a think on this one.. when yuo say “white spirits”
(please dont laugh as i commonly get these mixed up but) do you mean turps? 😕 t -
i just googled it and found this:
White Spirits
Description:
PACER White Spirits is a fast drying solvent used for cleaning metal, plastic and painted surfaces before restoring, leaving a residue free finish.
PACER White Spirits is a petroleum solvent that is also suitable as a fuel for heating and lighting if specified by equipment manufacturers.
assuming its the same one as this it should be fine, as it states leaving a residue free surface.
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Once all the vinyl has been laid, don’t you have to reheat it all to set it? I would have thought once it had been set, it wouldn’t shrink, and try and pull out??
Simon
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If the recesses were cleaned with regular white spirit (I don’t know what that stuff Rob is referring to above is) then I’m not surprised the vinyl is popping off. White spirit leaves a greasy residue, like turps. I always use meths or alcohol to remove white spirit for this very reason. Even if it evaporated to dry, it leaves a residue which prevents proper adhesion, even on flat surfaces.
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thats what i thought also andy.. the stuff i found (in picture) i havent seen before, i just tried on google and that came up.
im a meths user myself. i dont even like panel wipe, although i have spoke to a reputable vehicle wrapper and he uses a certain make of the stuff. -
Hi Billy,
a smart job for your first attempt at wrapping. The price seems about right too.
The problem of lifting at the overlaps is quite common with graficast and is usually caused by the way it is fitted. No slight to you intended.
When you apply it over recesses the best way we have found to avoid it popping back is to do the following:
Apply the vinyl to the main part of the panel, the ‘outside’ section of the recess so that the vinyl is pulled across it like a drum skin but under its own tension. Then apply it into the ‘inside’ section of the panel, starting in the middle and work towards the deepest section of the recess but dont go any closer than two inches.
Assuming you have started at the rear of the van, use a heat gun and start to apply the vinyl from the middle of the ‘outside’ section, highest part, into the recess and work your way down towards the first bend. The heat ‘relaxes’ the vinyl and by applying it into the deepest section with two inches of material unapplied lets it go down really easily. As you get into the deepest section (corner of the recess) the remainder of the unapplied vinyl almost applies itself. Repeat this from the middle up to the top corner and along to the edge of the vinyl.
Finish off fitting the rest of this section before going on to the next tile. Reason for this is that graficast can have a tendency to ‘grab’ onto itself like sticky stuff to a blanket!!
We then go around the recess and reheat the vinyl to improve the bond. I let this side settle and do the rear panel on the other side next in the same way.
Once thats done I would apply the second tile on the first side.
It’s important to remember to clean the recesses again and in particular the vinyl which you’ve been handling and will no doubt now be covered in greasy finger marks.
On the subject of cleaning I can’t see past Isopropal alchohol. It leaves no residue and dries off really fast. However its still best to make sure the panels are dry by using a clean bit of towel and wiping the van over until the paint ‘squeaks’ when you rub it.
Apply the second tile in exactly the same way and finish off by reheating it to strengthen the bond.
This methed has works really well for us on new Transits, Relays, Movanos, etc. but forget it on Sprinters as the recesses are just too deep when you use a laminate.
I hope this helps but if there’s anything I’ve not been clear on or your not sure about then let me know and I’ll try to help.
Regards,
John,
Express Graphics.
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