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  • Vehicle Wrap:- Golden Porsche

    Posted by Robert Lambie on November 24, 2010 at 2:25 am

    NOT my work… I have no details of who did it using what vinyl etc… but thought i would share the find anyway.


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    Steve McAdie replied 13 years, 5 months ago 18 Members · 44 Replies
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  • Quentin Tomkies

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    November 24, 2010 at 2:54 am

    It makes me wonder what goes on inside some people’s head sometimes…. I mean, at what point did this seem like a good idea?? 😮

    It would be nice to know the product though….

    Cheers
    Q

  • Daniel Evans

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    November 24, 2010 at 7:43 am

    The only way that this could be a good idea is for one of those guys that buy in gold or puff daddy lol

  • Matty Goodwin

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    November 24, 2010 at 8:26 am

    Oh dear, dear, dear…….

    😳 😳

  • Nicola McIntosh

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    November 24, 2010 at 8:44 am

    not my cup of tea but i like it for some strange reason 😀

    nik

  • Glenn Sharp

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    November 24, 2010 at 8:50 am

    to be fair it looks like there has been a lot of thought put into it………on the picture showing the exhaust they’ve put the screw heads in exactly the right place for example

  • David Rogers

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    November 24, 2010 at 9:08 am

    Def. a wrap?

    If I saw it – my first guess would be paint.

    …NASTY though…

  • John Gregson

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    November 24, 2010 at 9:15 am

    I must have bad taste :lol1: I love it 😳

  • Peter Normington

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    November 24, 2010 at 9:28 am

    I think its quite nice, I would say its real gold and not a wrap,
    perhaps gold leaf? looks to intricate to be a wrap, and such a good finish

    Peter

  • Bob Clarkson

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    November 24, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Very clever, but definitely a way to make an expensive car look cheap and tacky. I’ve seen one in plain chrome/ silver, and that looked really well.

  • David Rowland

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    November 24, 2010 at 9:46 am

    i think the photos might not be as good as our eyes looking at it.. its alright but i wouldn’t want to drive it

  • Robert Lambie

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    November 24, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    I have seen a completely Gold Leafed car before and it doesn’t have the shine from the gold like this one. Also, leafing the car would damage the paintwork.
    Also, all those rectangles and designs would need to then be painted on "after" application of the leaf. I would imagine things getting a bit messy and laborious.
    I guess that means nothing if the guy has money to burn….

    Personally, I do not like it… I don’t even like the car itself.

    My “guess” is that it’s 3M Gold Mirror Cast which has been printed onto, laminated and applied.

    I have seen various chrome/mirror wraps… some look great, some look tacky. i guess it depends on the vehicle though….

    .

  • Peter Normington

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    November 24, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    I think the placing of the screws/rivets is just to precise for a print
    dont know if this is true, but more pictures of the car
    http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2008 … n-porsche/

    Peter

  • Robert Lambie

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    November 24, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    Gold Leaf one here…..

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    Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, often shortened to Porsche AG, or just Porsche, is a German manufacturer of automobiles majority owned by the Austrian Porsche and Piëch families.

    This Porsche really looks cool. Maybe little weird too. You can see on those pictures golden Porsche, 100% covered with gold. The words is not enough to describe it, just take a look at those images of the Porsche, incredible work.

    It was founded in 1931 by Ferdinand Porsche, an Austro-Hungarian engineer, born in Maffersdorf (Vratislavice), Bohemia (now part of the Czech Republic) who also designed the first Volkswagen.

    The company is headquartered in Zuffenhausen, a city district of Stuttgart, Baden-Württemberg. They currently produce 911 (997), Boxster, and Cayman sports cars and Cayenne sport utility vehicles.


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  • Robert Lambie

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    November 24, 2010 at 12:44 pm
    quote Peter Normington:

    I think the placing of the screws/rivets is just to precise for a print
    dont know if this is true, but more pictures of the car
    http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2008 … n-porsche/

    Peter

    yes, when i look at the screw/rivets, i see what you mean! 😕

  • Quentin Tomkies

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    November 24, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    Some of the design looks ‘textured’ rather than just printed on…

    Assuming this is not vinyl, is there a chrome finish vinyl available that would stretch enough conform to these curves, without having to cut/trim??

    Cheers
    Q

  • Robert Lambie

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    November 24, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    Hi Quentin

    yeh, the 3M cast mirror film but often used as a wrap. but "does have its limitations"

    the following is done in 3M gold mirror vinyl.


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  • Dan Osterbery

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    November 24, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    i’d have the veyron for christmas! (if your listening Santa)

  • RayRosher

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    November 24, 2010 at 5:18 pm
    quote Nicola McIntosh:

    not my cup of tea but i like it for some strange reason 😀

    nik

    Yeah Agree
    But man-o-man Soooooo Tacky

  • Alan Drury

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    November 24, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    Regardless of how it was done I think someone has a little bit too much money.
    Alan D

  • Robert Lambie

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    November 24, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    YECK !


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  • Dan Osterbery

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    November 24, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    Modern day pink panther mobile?

  • Bob Clarkson

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    November 25, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    With regards to the gilding on that second Porche, I’d have been ashamed of that if it was my work, but in contrast I wouldn’t even pretend to be able to get the finish of the first one.

    So based on that, someones basically a genius, which I wouldn’t rule out if we remember the post on the guy in Torguay with the glass work, or it’s a wrap.

  • Martin Pearson

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    November 25, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    You will have to excuse my ignorance but I have no experience of guilding at all and wouldn’t know where to start but wouldn’t something like Signgold be better for a job like that

  • Bob Clarkson

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    November 25, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    Until I just looked it up, I didn’t even know what that was Martin, but have to admit it looks rather nice.

    I could gild that quite easily, but I can’t honestly imagine anyone in my neck of the woods wanting their Porche ruined, so probably won’t get the chance to prove it. 😀

  • Martin Pearson

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    November 25, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    Bob, I came across it a few years ago, not even sure who supplies it in the UK now. I bought a couple of metres and it has been used for a couple of jobs where a proper signmaker like yourself would have used proper gold leaf :lol1:

  • Craig Brown

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    November 26, 2010 at 9:05 am
    quote Martin:

    not even sure who supplies it in the UK now

    Still available Martin from http://www.pfl.uk.com…I‘m looking forward to seeing how your car comes out 😉

  • Martin Pearson

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    November 26, 2010 at 11:16 am

    Craig, if you saw my car you would know just how silly your last remark was :lol1: :lol1: It’s the dirt that holds it together as I said in another post. With that much gold leaf/film added to it I doubt if it would move :lol1:

    I’ve actually still got enough signgold to do a few more jobs but nice to know you can still get it.

  • Shane Drew

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    November 26, 2010 at 11:42 am

    I agree with Martin. I think it is signgold too. I used it on a mega rich boat here some time ago, and to the uninitiated you can get a version that has a swirl/crease effect to imitate gold leaf. Cost a fortune to buy here. I did a boat rego on both side, a huge name on the transom and fly-bridge. Charged him $900 and he didn’t even flinch. Heaps cheaper than ‘real’ gold leaf.

    As far as the lines and rivets go, its most likely hand painted with a pin line brush. We have a guy locally that does that effect on utes and traliers. Very effective.

    The pink Veyron was in the news recently? Supposed to be the hardest car in the world to wrap because of the body panels being so easy to damage. Not sure about that, but it has been the talk of the town with a few signies here recently…

    For what its worth, my son was horrified at the porsche. Reckons the owner should have been jailed for ‘car abuse’ :lol1:

  • Robert Lambie

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    November 26, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    i hadnt actually thought about signgold, but yeh, very possible as it comes in various effects.
    thing is, you are back to same scenario with the screws/rivets. they are strategically placed which i would guess could only be done after the wrap/leaf has been applied, due to alignment.

  • Peter Normington

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    November 26, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    signgold it is not, it only comes in small sheets, and therefore you would see overlaps and joins,
    The porsche was probably produced by someone who has never seen a plotter, or a book of gold leaf, maybe a jeweler, or a metalworker, but it was done by thinking outside the box…?
    I know that metals can be sprayed using specialist equipment, so maybe it was done like that. we should not assume it was done using "signmaking" methods.
    In the 70’s the new found wealth of the arab states, became the start of the game of who could buy the most expensive car, and gold plate and diamond encrusted bodies were quite common, Hoopers, a well known RR body builder produce many gold cars, so it is not a new idea…
    Peter

  • Martin Pearson

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    November 26, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    Peter I know nothing about this sort of work and was just asking if it could be done with Signgold, but at 24" wide x 10 yds it’s hardly a small sheet.

    Don’t think anyone does assume it was done with signmaking materials, just discussing how it could have been done that way.

  • Peter Normington

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    November 26, 2010 at 10:39 pm
    quote Martin:

    Peter I know nothing about this sort of work and was just asking if it could be done with Signgold, but at 24″ wide x 10 yds it’s hardly a small sheet.

    Don’t think anyone does assume it was done with signmaking materials, just discussing how it could have been done that way.

    Martin that makes 2 of us, I have no idea how it was done either, would love to know though…

    Peter

  • Martin Pearson

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    November 26, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    We may never know Peter, I’m pretty sure if I did a job like that I would keep quiet about it, Like Shane’s son said the owner should be prosecuted for car abuse :lol1:

  • Bob Clarkson

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    November 26, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    It could just be electro gold plated, they do car wheels, grill and badges etc with it, so I’ve no reason to believe you couldn’t do a whole car like it.

    I thought about having my phone done with it once, but it’s not a nice image. It’d bond and stay on there well enough, but it’d be seriously expensive to do a whole car with it though.

    It’d be quite dear to do it in leaf, or even a wrap, but electro plate would be frightening. To line it like that by hand would be tedious and time consuming, but not really that difficult, so it is feasible.

    To give an idea, a couple of hours is more than long enough to coachline a Rolls including the hubcaps, without pushing yourself too hard. I once spent two days lining one of my own modified cars, and it was nowhere near the complexity of that Porsche, but the style of lining on that gives far more tolerance than you’d ever get with normal lining.

    I guess it come down to "how expensive does something have to be to put off a Russian billionaire" suppose the answer to that would be a lot more than it’s likely to have cost….

  • Robert Lambie

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    November 26, 2010 at 11:13 pm
    quote Peter Normington:

    The porsche was probably produced by someone who has never seen a plotter, or a book of gold leaf, maybe a jeweler, or a metalworker, but it was done by thinking outside the box…?

    :lol1: I think i would lean more towards wrappers, signs and graphics industry, before a Jeweller Peter.

    yes real gold plated cars have been produced before wrapping even came about… not knocking that and yes i do remember seeing rich arabs on TV showing their Rolls Royces done like this, and more…
    But i think its fair to say 99% of the Rich & Famous are following the trend of funky wraps via the wrapping route.

    yes it would be good to find out how it was actually done.
    I personally am now thinking its done in a mirror Gold wrap.
    the rest has been hand painted onto it, after its been applied.
    the screws are inconsistent, strategically placed. lines fade in and out at recesses, lines are not a constant width and more… all sorta signs its been painted by hand.
    the exhaust pipe may well be gold leaf…
    the fancy scrolls and swirls maybe done in something clear to give the effect… a bit like how the traditional guys do glue chip on mirrors? [naive description there]
    perhaps to go to a real extreme and wrap it in clear after it has been painted by hand to protect?

    who knows…

    .

  • Peter Normington

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    November 26, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    Bob.
    seriously expensive is only relative to what you have in the bank..
    when we talk about money we laymen dont really have a clue about what expensive is 😀
    to the really rich people in this world a million quid would be a poor night out.
    so to gold plate a Porsche would be like you having your caterham custom painted.
    so the cost like you say is frightening, but only to us that dont have money to burn….

    Peter

  • Bob Clarkson

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    November 26, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    Just a little addition, had a bit of a web search, and it’s very likely to be electro plated, there’s a few companies that’ll do it.

    A company called Alchemist who are based in London, will do it in leaf, but it’s really not the same, it looks like the effect on the second Porsche.

    If you google Gold plating a car, it’s in the gallery and listings…

  • Peter Normington

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    November 26, 2010 at 11:24 pm
    quote Bob Clarkson:

    Just a little addition, had a bit of a web search, and it’s very likely to be electro plated, there’s a few companies that’ll do it.

    A company called Alchemist who are based in London, will do it in leaf, but it’s really not the same, it looks like the effect on the second Porsche.

    Bob it could be sprayed, years ago we were repairing crankshafts by spraying steel, so even though i have not come across it, no reason why real gold could not be done the same way/

  • Bob Clarkson

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    November 26, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    That’s what I meant by not being expensive enough to put a Russian billionaire off.

    Think I need to put an advert in "Russian Billionaires Weekly" and try and earn myself a few quid.

  • Peter Normington

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    November 26, 2010 at 11:29 pm
    quote Bob Clarkson:

    That’s what I meant by not being expensive enough to put a Russian billionaire off.

    Think I need to put an advert in “Russian Billionaires Weekly” and try and earn myself a few quid.

    Just tried that, but a 2 x 4 add costs £450,000!

    😀
    Peter

  • Bob Clarkson

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    November 26, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    Ok, I’m struggling a little with the spraying steel. First read it and thought, hang on a minute, you’re going to be sending me for a tin of tartan paint and a spirit level bubble next, but I’m guessing that’s not the case… If that can be done, it’s a process I know nothing about.

  • Peter Normington

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    November 27, 2010 at 12:04 am

    Bob
    it works by spraying what is essentially iron filings at high pressure and heat onto the surface of another metal, the pressure causes the particles to weld on impact, not a new process, I think it was developed many years ago, the idea I believe came from noticing that bullets welded themselves to tanks on impact during the first world war, cold be wrong though…
    found this a s a quick exaample http://www.metallisation.com/

    Peter

  • Bob Clarkson

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    November 27, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    Peter

    Thank you for taking the trouble to post that, I’ve had a look on that site and a little search and can honestly say I had idea that was possible let alone quite a recognized process. Quite fascinating really, as they say, we learn something every day.

  • Steve McAdie

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    November 28, 2010 at 1:46 am

    If what I have read is true then it is covered in 18kg of gold leaf. Search for denis simachev porsche.

    Steve

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