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Vehicle Graphics: full Sprinter Wrap
Posted by George Kern on March 2, 2007 at 10:29 pmNot the best pictures but the wrap went well. Unfortunately the client asked to add cut vinyl decals of his phone # and address afterwards so we had to deal with space issues.
Michael Wooff replied 16 years ago 19 Members · 36 Replies -
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Nice one George, Sprinters are notorious here for the recesses, very hard to get vinyl to stay in there, are they the same in the states ( dont know where yours are built)?
and if so how do you deal with it.
Peter
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Thanks for the compliments everyone. The recesses on these sprinters are terrible and to make matters even worse, they are not sanded down in the recesses so the bodywork surface and paint is very rough in there which always creates bubbles and large air pockets. Luckily our installer and his helper are as meticulous as I am when it comes to things so it all works out in the end. I did come in this morning though to find some areas needed a little more heating in certain places but nothing major.
Avery MPI1005 EZ was used for this. The only suggestion I could recommend for these recesses on the Sprinters are the same thing everyone else knows already, patience, lots of heat, felt-edge squegee, more patience. What I have found though is if you put a portable electric space heater inside the truck and close the doors, the surface does heat up pretty nicely from the inside and makes the material bite better on the outside.
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hey george!
thats a nice bit o work!
and yup, those recesses in the sprinters are cack! (aparantly it is rubberised paint? silicon problems reacting with the adhesives in the glues, or so i am told!)keep it up fella
jas
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i’m going to get you do freelance designs for me :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:
tasty as usual
Ian
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Looks good to me, did you do the roof too?
How long did it take you to fit this with how many men?
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2 guys, one to install the panels one to do the fine detailing. About 5 hours total. They stopped for a bit to finish up a rush job for another client.
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quote George Kern:2 guys, one to install the panels one to do the fine detailing. About 5 hours total. They stopped for a bit to finish up a rush job for another client.
5 hours to do a full wrap on a LWB Sprinter, Seriously?
That seems very quick.
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Cracking job as usual George, I did a sprinter for a customer that had come from the States and it was branded as a Dodge. Are they all badged this way or are some of them Mercedes? This was far more luxurious than most of the vans you see over here.
Putting a heater in the back of the van makes a big difference in cold weather no matter what graphics you are applying, I didn’t do wraps but it is that cold in Scotland some of the time and the unit I had wasn’t heated so I used to put a heater in the back just to warm the panels on most of the vans I did during the winter. -
quote autosign:quote George Kern:2 guys, one to install the panels one to do the fine detailing. About 5 hours total. They stopped for a bit to finish up a rush job for another client.
5 hours to do a full wrap on a LWB Sprinter, Seriously?
That seems very quick.
very seriously, they got started around 12, stopped at 2 (the one has a child who plays basketball and it was his last high school game) they began again around 6 and worked until around 9-9:30ish. I know if I did the job it would have taken hours but these guys literally are doing full wraps everyday, almost second nature to them I guess, ya know?
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quote martin:Cracking job as usual George, I did a sprinter for a customer that had come from the States and it was branded as a Dodge. Are they all badged this way or are some of them Mercedes? This was far more luxurious than most of the vans you see over here.
Putting a heater in the back of the van makes a big difference in cold weather no matter what graphics you are applying, I didn’t do wraps but it is that cold in Scotland some of the time and the unit I had wasn’t heated so I used to put a heater in the back just to warm the panels on most of the vans I did during the winter.Martin, in the states all of the Sprinters were either made by Freightliner up until 2003 or made by Dodge from 2004 til present. Dodge started making them here after the DaimlerChrysler / Mercedes-Benz partnership.
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Nice one mate, graphics look really clear. I seem to struggle with good quality pics for my larger work, take for eg, looking for some good images of spiderman need to make the images 1900x5000mm any help
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quote Barry camfield:Nice one mate, graphics look really clear. I seem to struggle with good quality pics for my larger work, take for eg, looking for some good images of spiderman need to make the images 1900x5000mm any help
I have wondered this for a while so I started a thread that I hope will help.
(also so that this thread does not get hi-jacked :lol1: )
https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … highlight=
Cheers
Warren
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I wish somebody would come up with a removable filler like bondo that you could use to fill the Sprinter recess with for a smooth surface. Some folks use a strip of reflective for strenth to bridge the recess but I don’t like the lines it leaves.
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nice work indeed!
i like the "american way" of design… it is allways fresh… nice.in the attachment you see a sprinter (new: crafter) we wrapped here in hamburg.
the big challenge was to keep the design with the vertical stripes…
very difficult in the creases and the convex parts of the car.
the roof is very hard work, you need a lot of time to temper all the creases.material on the body: avery 1900
roof: 1005 ea RS-oliver-
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Hey George, that’s a nice one!
Oliver, congrats on that Sprinter! How long does it take for you to wrap a Sprinter (without the roof), or a Smart, a Mini Cooper?
Cheers,
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:thanks: 🙂
sprinter without roof: ~ 12 hours
smart: ~ 6 hours
mini cooper: ~ 6 hoursdigital printed material without "easy apply"
a simple color change can be a lot of more work.. in this case you can count ~ 2 hours more..
btw.: the roof of this sprinter needs 1 hour to temper! (good for me to have a trainee :clap2: )
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nice work mate… not keen on the design but it will certainly be remembered.
was there any specific reason you did not use ez apply on this vehicle? -
quote Robert Lambie:nice work mate… not keen on the design but it will certainly be remembered.
was there any specific reason you did not use ez apply on this vehicle?i´m only the wrapper… (where is the car-wrapper-emoticon ?)
design was from the customer…yes there is a reason: durability!
these sprinters (3) should run a long time and the customer ask for first-class quality.they ask 5 companys if they could do the job… 4 of them say NO
😮OT: the original avatar picture was better… in my mind…
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quote Oliver Röhler:yes there is a reason: durability!
these sprinters (3) should run a long time and the customer ask for first-class quality.do you not rate the ez apply wrap vinyls for long term work or just not for this type of vehicle?
i have two of those sprinters to part wrap in the next week or so… ive heard a few folk now say that there can be issues with the recessed areas. just wondering if you have heard the same?
thank you for taking the time to load your pictures. much appreciated.
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quote Robert Lambie:quote Oliver Röhler:yes there is a reason: durability!
these sprinters (3) should run a long time and the customer ask for first-class quality.do you not rate the ez apply wrap vinyls for long term work or just not for this type of vehicle?
i have two of those sprinters to part wrap in the next week or so… ive heard a few folk now say that there can be issues with the recessed areas. just wondering if you have heard the same?
thank you for taking the time to load your pictures. much appreciated.
i am an avery trainer… (amongst others) i work a lot with this materials.. and this is a result of my experience… if there are extreme creases, so i don´t use easy apply.
1900 is easy to use and works perfect…
btw.: the 1900 needs to be really dry after printing! (minimum 36h before laminate) then it works really fine…
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yes, i agree with you on that with regards to the ez-apply. i.e. not good for sharp and deep recessed areas.
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@ Oliver:
is that the time with 2 or 1 man??? You’re fast!
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times are for 1 man.
for the big parts (roof and side part) i need for 10 minutes a second hand to fix them…
but the main job is done by 1 person.i only make car-wraps, nothing else… maybe this explains my times…
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@ Oliver and george
very nice work have you ever used arlon, if you have how would you compare it to the avery 1900 and ez aply.
mike
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quote Michael Wooff:@ Oliver and george
very nice work have you ever used arlon, if you have how would you compare it to the avery 1900 and ez aply.
mike
the arlon wrapping-film is polymer kalandered.. NOT cast.
thats the main difference.
in my mind only for short term usage.the strukture of the glue is the same as emblem (easy bond) and oracal (rapid air).
lot more tac at the first touch, than the avery.
did you try the HEXIS hexpress film?
in my mind a very nice produkt!
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Are you sure were talking about the same product, I’ll have to wait till tomorrow to check the exact model of the vinyl that were using, our suppliers have marketed it to us as cast and have guarantied it for 7yrs also myself and my employer took a course with a Canadian trainer and he was adamant that it was a cast vinyl.
it has a Grey adhesive on the back of the film just the same as the avery 1900.i think this is the arlon that we use I’m not sure if it’s the same model in Europe as this is a North American/ Canadian site but it claims to be cast on the site also.
http://www.arlon.com/graphics/CatalogPr … &nLevel4=0
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is the hex press a cast, i have heard of it but i don’t know to much about it.
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upss… the material i talked about is kalandered…
the one from your link i don´t tested… maybe it is not on the german market…
hexis of course is a cast!
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thats no problem i was worried for a sec that it might not be cast
after you saying it as were sort at the mercy of our suppliers here sometimes.
but i’m sure this is cast as i have been using it 2 years now we do at least one wrap a week here and have done about 20 sprinters in the last year and am doing a fleet 7 for a company as we speak i’m on the 4th,
for the whole 2 years the only times it failed are form not leaving it long enough to gas off/ dry before laminating, not getting it to the right temperature when re-casting and having to much ink on it form trial and error print settings but that was a long time ago now.every now and than it can be very aggressive when trying to pull it back while applying it i think this is when the printer has laid too much ink down on the media, i have gotten used to the weight of it even though when doing a sprinter or something similar it feels like your arms want to fall off 🙁
you guys seem to be having great success with the Avery cast media’s
we have just got the first roll last week and can’t wait for the first real challenge with this material.thanks for your reply oliver 😎
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the arlon we use is DPF 6000, i think in Europe it’s made by Metamark i was told that it’s the same as md 7 but marketed as arlon (well in Ireland anyway).
http://www.arlon.com/graphics/CatalogPr … ductsID=97
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