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vehicle graphics: bristan group
The perils of getting designers involved.
To be fair, I don’t really know where the blame lies. The end user says they told the designer that the vans were silver, whilst the designer says that they weren’t informed.
Whatever, if we had been entrusted with the design and layout, the problem wouldn’t have occurred because we knew all along exactly what the vans were. They were parked on our yard for ten weeks waiting for the original design. 😀
On the upside, we get to do them again but, on the downside, I don’t like to see the end user, who is my customer at the end of the day, getting messed about and inconvenienced. Also, I abhor the waste and unnecessary expense.
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great looking work John!
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ooh, bummer !! the new version looks much cleaner.
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OH dear,
John, were the redone ones just contour cut, or did you do them on clear?An how did the side images work?
Just asking because were ask to quoted to do some silver vans, with a fade to the silver, we said the result on clear would look washed out, Another company got the job and the prints look awfull.
Peter
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I thought the mistake was you forgot to do the van at the end of the row :lol1:
Looks good John but I think I would have done it the other way round with the text on the left door and the woman on the right, just because our brain reads from left to right.
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nightmare! nothing worse than designers that don’t know how to design for vehicles… we have one right now. completely wrapped the rear end of a transit in… wait for it. 3M Diamond grade. it just wont work!
my only thoughts are… why proceed to fit them? ide have just said here are all the prints now done but the blend is wrong. 😮
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how do you wrap in diamond grade 😮
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Nightmare! looks a good job though, any pics of the side finished? I take it you just had to use different images that would look good contour cut?
G
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quote Peter Normington:OH dear,
John, were the redone ones just contour cut, or did you do them on clear?An how did the side images work?
Just asking because were ask to quoted to do some silver vans, with a fade to the silver, we said the result on clear would look washed out, Another company got the job and the prints look awfull.
The second versions were printed on white and contour cut. I don’t really see any benefit to doing them on clear for the van colour to show through because, even if the clear didn’t change the van colour, where the print ended would still stick out like a sore thumb, because of different gloss levels.
Printing on clear to fade to silver on a silver van wouldn’t work, and I think you made the right decision to knock it back.
Side view of second attempt shown below.
Robert,
We did our best. We finished the first one, thought it looked horrible, so emailed photos to the end user. He came back saying it was fine, so we carried on with the rest.
The problem was that our contact is in charge of the engineers and the van fleet, and he was happy with them. That’s fair enough because as far as he was concerned, if the marketing department and the directors had approved the design, he was only doing what he was told. He had no choice because it is not his place to make changes to whatever all the highly paid folks above him in the food chain decide they want. There are also the other logistical factors which made it imperative that these vans be on the road on the appointed day.
Anyway, two days later, when we had done another four, our photos had worked their way up the line, and we received a call telling us to stop work. So we did. The vans are now out on the road and will have to come back to us one at a time to be changed.
The job isn’t really a nightmare to us because the end user knows that this is not our fault, they know what they want and are, if not happy, perfectly aware that they have to pay for them to be done again. I’m quite happy because we get to charge twice for the same vans although, as I said above, that feeling is tempered a bit by the dislike of waste, especially when it was avoidable.
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Very nice work John, out of interest what film do you use for printing and laminating as I see the picture goes over ridges and do you remove handles badges and stuff when you apply?
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Alan,
I’m sure that something lesser would have been perfectly adequate, but that’s Graphiwrap film and laminate.
In this instance, we removed the number plate and number plate lamp only. The rear door handle is flat, and there’s no paintowork under it, so we just vinyled over it and trimmed.
We love Trafics and their clones. Dead easy vans to work on. Apart from nice door handles, the way the plastic on the rear quarters goes from top to bottom means we never have to worry about wrapping anything around the rear. Why aren’t all vans like that? 😀
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The new look backs although not so orgasmic are a lot cleaner….excellent job…the new version looks a lot easier to fit as well.
Cheers
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quote Andrew Boyle:The new look backs although not so orgasmic
Cheers
Maybe Peter had a hand in that too! 😉
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? my hands and orgasmic?
pourquoi?
Peter
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I was referring to the pic Andrew took at SignUK Peter of you and I …….. 😀
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Show us the pic!!!! 😀 😀 😀
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its all impressive work to me
But if the wrong ones hadn’t overlapped the image with the company name I think they would have looked great, better than the fix even.
nothing to do with the orgasms, honest.
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quote James Martin:But if the wrong ones hadn’t overlapped the image with the company name I think they would have looked great, better than the fix even.
That was one suggested fix James. Cut the white back to the body seams on the sides, and the door shut on the rear. That would have left the text on clear panels.
In the end the contour cut option was chosen though, together with the stronger image.
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Nice Work John.
And although recreating is a pain it must feel like double bubble 🙂 however having to trash your own work so soon on 🙁
Hey Ho the Ying and yang of the sign trade……
Cheers
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Good work John – and well done for looking after your customers interests and keeping them informed about what was an obvious c0ck up by the "designer".
Understandably – you don’t want to make the designer look like an idiot (even though he/she obviously is) so your diplomacy skills were well tested in this instance
The contour cut versions are probably easier to fit too which is a bonus. 😀
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